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Post by butteryhands on Jul 9, 2020 10:41:50 GMT -5
Roschitz got rolled against Samuels/Cox a week ago.
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Post by txbvb on Jul 9, 2020 11:18:39 GMT -5
Roschitz got rolled against Samuels/Cox a week ago. I was curious how that final went. I only saw a few clips.
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Post by wyomingpancake on Jul 9, 2020 11:27:38 GMT -5
Anybody streaming on facebook live?
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Post by TheReignman on Jul 9, 2020 11:55:35 GMT -5
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 9, 2020 12:00:31 GMT -5
Roschitz got rolled against Samuels/Cox a week ago. Who was Steve playing with? your FB link didn't work for me. What tournament?
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Post by txbvb on Jul 9, 2020 12:24:47 GMT -5
Roschitz got rolled against Samuels/Cox a week ago. Who was Steve playing with? your FB link didn't work for me. What tournament? He played with Connole. It was the Scottsdale Beachfest 2020 /?d=n
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 9, 2020 12:27:36 GMT -5
Who was Steve playing with? your FB link didn't work for me. What tournament? He played with Connole. It was the Scottsdale Beachfest 2020 /?d=n Thanks.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 9, 2020 15:04:32 GMT -5
Looks like some weather issues:
A little adversity coming through. Next match about 5pm our time
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 9, 2020 16:33:21 GMT -5
I don't know how many people he will be out jumping with a goofy footed approach and other skywalkers that are used to the grass game, once the better grass players get tired of him banging they will double block and force a hard drive or a shot which we have seen him struggle at. Jeff Samuals is another guy that can fly, but is probably a better beach player than he is in the grass. His blocking has also been pretty criticized and this is a big solo block game until you are getting killed, so now he will be solo blocking against guys that are basically attacking as if they were indoor. I am guessing they will put him on the left and alternate with BB, or TB will set in the playoffs and let him play on the right. You definitely still need ball control and while you can use your hands it is still a two man serve receive, unless getting killed, where you would drop your third back for a 3 man. Out of system attacking in the grass, especially if windy, will still produce challenges. The other thing is the serving game, will he be able to serve aggressive enough to take teams out of system otherwise they will be seeing quick sets and movement comparative to an indoor game. You will absolutely see some big swings, but when it comes down to it the grass game is more forgiving to a complete player rather than someone who excels at one particular thing. A few rule changes if you are not used to grass are Hands on SR, and no let serve. No tips like normal and sets over the net only if square, should still be a really fun day as the Bomgrens are first ballot hall of fame Waupaca players and will get him in the right spot now doubt. Im not sure how grass would transform the best jumper on the AVP to something else. I cant recall ever seeing a player's jump change a ton relative to their peers in the grass/sand transition (except in grass players playing sand for the first time) and I grew up playing lots of East Coast grass when it was a huge thing. Also if he can draw a double block then hasn't he effectively done his job if Tim is hitting on the other side? I agree he will have issues with some of the nuances, but in terms of both hitting and blocking, I think he will be just fine. Id say the problem area, if any is likely to do with serving because grass tends to be very old school in terms of just bombing jump serves and receiving tough serves Either way its hard to imagine Troy is not a huge upgrade over the Bomgrens usual team, although having played together forever is probably an advantage for those 4 guys. Finally I think you are wrong about grass being more forgiving than sand. A set 7 feet off to a good hitter on grass is much less of an issue than the same set on sand and for that reason weaker passers suffer less. I am not saying he won't be flying, I just think transitioning to an indoor style approach in conjunction with all the other top players there I don't think he will be out jumping everyone and some open players may even match or have higher touches than Troy. As far as the double block goes no, he hasn't done his job because those guys will just bunch block and then transition together out to Troy or one peels off for Tim, or if Tim is setting than of course they have to watch for a burn - if Troy sticks to hard cross swings all day he will be shut down fairly quick. The serving is where I agree with you however not really calling it old school, just an extension of current men's college indoor except with no lets. A few years ago Szerszen was there just sending ballistic nukes, if it didn't hit the net and stayed in it was a point almost every single time. Troy is definitely an upgrade over Vanort, but I don't think he is going to come in and be leaps and bounds better than the other guys they are competing against, especially when you get into the quarters and maybe even pre quarters. I don't understand where you think I am wrong, I said grass was more forgiving to a complete player and I don't think Troy is a complete player. There will be guys there that are more complete in multiple skills than he is, while his team will def be able to recover, I think Troy swinging 7 feet off the net in the grass with at least 2, possibly 3, defenders back will not produce an automatic kill but it is not like he is falling backwards in the sand trying to punch it over. Look at Dache, Michelue, Goldsmith, Del Sol, etc. and tell me that Troy is going to be a more effective grass player than those guys this weekend, I don't think you can.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 9, 2020 16:34:38 GMT -5
Looks like some weather issues: A little adversity coming through. Next match about 5pm our time Sure a little adversity, but once the rain clears up these guys will be dropping monster bombs. Some big swings are going to be coming out for the remainder of today after that Waupaca sand gets packed down.
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Post by southbay11 on Jul 9, 2020 16:40:49 GMT -5
Looks like some weather issues: A little adversity coming through. Next match about 5pm our time Sure a little adversity, but once the rain clears up these guys will be dropping monster bombs. Some big swings are going to be coming out for the remainder of today after that Waupaca sand gets packed down. Based on the scores there isn’t much “flying” but instead, a bunch of beat downs
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 9, 2020 16:46:04 GMT -5
Sure a little adversity, but once the rain clears up these guys will be dropping monster bombs. Some big swings are going to be coming out for the remainder of today after that Waupaca sand gets packed down. Based on the scores there isn’t much “flying” but instead, a bunch of beat downs Beat downs of High Q/Low MD guys on weekend warrior and AVP Next type players, or specific teams that are just on fire? Historically after the rain or moisture comes around those sand courts get pretty packed.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 9, 2020 17:20:20 GMT -5
Caldwell/Vaught go down to FL High schooler Kwenkel and Hughes in 3
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Post by southbay11 on Jul 9, 2020 17:40:55 GMT -5
Based on the scores there isn’t much “flying” but instead, a bunch of beat downs Beat downs of High Q/Low MD guys on weekend warrior and AVP Next type players, or specific teams that are just on fire? Historically after the rain or moisture comes around those sand courts get pretty packed. I only know the AVP guys/girls playing that live and train here in the beach cities. So, I’m watching their scores and most of them just killed whomever they were playing. I’m sure once they start playing each other in the playoffs it will get good
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Post by butteryhands on Jul 9, 2020 18:54:30 GMT -5
I think they would be better off having Troy set and block. He won't dig or pass nearly as well as Brian and Tim. Shammy got hurt today so we'll see how much he can even play in the early matches to help keep everybody fresh enough for the late rounds.
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