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Post by newtoschool on Jul 12, 2020 9:39:40 GMT -5
What is upsetting is that the Ivy League is not allowing the athletes to use their last year of eligibility in the Ivy League. So if the athlete would like to get a grad degree and play their last year they can do it , but not at an Ivy school even thought the Ivy League cancelled the season. It’s Looking like the men’s volleyball will loose two seasons and still no grad degree in the Ivy League.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 12, 2020 10:01:04 GMT -5
What is upsetting is that the Ivy League is not allowing the athletes to use their last year of eligibility in the Ivy League. So if the athlete would like to get a grad degree and play their last year they can do it , but not at an Ivy school even thought the Ivy League cancelled the season. It’s Looking like the men’s volleyball will loose two seasons and still no grad degree in the Ivy League. That’s always been their policy,
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Post by newtoschool on Jul 12, 2020 10:08:25 GMT -5
What is upsetting is that the Ivy League is not allowing the athletes to use their last year of eligibility in the Ivy League. So if the athlete would like to get a grad degree and play their last year they can do it , but not at an Ivy school even thought the Ivy League cancelled the season. It’s Looking like the men’s volleyball will loose two seasons and still no grad degree in the Ivy League. That’s always been their policy, I understand that , but these are unusual times and the league is cancelling the season this isn’t a student choice. These athletes / students are going to be missing at least a full year on campus. Many would like it back.
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Post by jcvball22 on Jul 12, 2020 10:56:03 GMT -5
That’s always been their policy, I understand that , but these are unusual times and the league is cancelling the season this isn’t a student choice. These athletes / students are going to be missing at least a full year on campus. Many would like it back. There are a few reasons for that: 1. Ivy League grad programs do not lend themselves to having time to also play a sport and would not be lenient when it came to travel and missed class. Many are hands-on, experiential, and requiring extensive internships, time abroad, or lab time. Hence the current policy. 2. Ivy League undergrads would, in no way, be guaranteed admissions to graduate programs and the athletics staff and personnel would have ZERO influence on that decision. Ivy league schools take very small percentages of their own undergraduates into their grad programs, so it isn't even highly likely they would be admitted to grad school at the institution they are currently attending. The difference between the Ivy League and most of the others is THE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND ATHLETICS. Everyone seems to forget the supposed reason these student-athletes are playing. If a current Ivy League athlete wants to use their eligibility while attending grad school, they can apply to graduate school at any of the multitude of incredible schools where they can do that.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jul 12, 2020 10:57:45 GMT -5
That’s always been their policy, I understand that , but these are unusual times and the league is cancelling the season this isn’t a student choice. These athletes / students are going to be missing at least a full year on campus. Many would like it back. These schools can't have student classes piling up on each other.
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Post by newtoschool on Jul 12, 2020 12:33:37 GMT -5
I understand that , but these are unusual times and the league is cancelling the season this isn’t a student choice. These athletes / students are going to be missing at least a full year on campus. Many would like it back. These schools can't have student classes piling up on each other. [/quotte You are correct it would be a log jam mess in the undergraduate program. I don’t understand them not allowing them to use it in a graduate program.
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Post by n00b on Jul 12, 2020 13:03:30 GMT -5
Are these schools allowing for a gap year? Not specific to athletes. But if a student decides full tuition for a year of online classes simply isn’t worth it, can they take a semester/year off and retain their status as a student with the ability to register for classes next fall?
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Post by jcvball22 on Jul 12, 2020 13:07:14 GMT -5
Are these schools allowing for a gap year? Not specific to athletes. But if a student decides full tuition for a year of online classes simply isn’t worth it, can they take a semester/year off and retain their status as a student with the ability to register for classes next fall? Yes. Most have granted gap year or gap semester options for all students. Normally, the students can use that just once during college. If they choose that option now, it won’t count as their one-time gap usage (not as much of an issue for athletes, generally, more so for the general student population).
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Post by n00b on Jul 12, 2020 13:24:10 GMT -5
Are these schools allowing for a gap year? Not specific to athletes. But if a student decides full tuition for a year of online classes simply isn’t worth it, can they take a semester/year off and retain their status as a student with the ability to register for classes next fall? Yes. Most have granted gap year or gap semester options for all students. Normally, the students can use that just once during college. If they choose that option now, it won’t count as their one-time gap usage (not as much of an issue for athletes, generally, more so for the general student population). So athletes CAN use a gap year and stay for a 5th year as an undergrad student.
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Post by newtoschool on Jul 12, 2020 13:25:48 GMT -5
You are not allowed to “just take a gap year “. I plan for what you are doing for the year must be submitted by a deadline. Each school is doing gap years differently. Harvard is not allowing it. Princeton is allowing It but won’t guarantee when you can get back in. Yale is being the most lenient . Don’t know about the others. Again my question why not for a grad year?
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Post by jcvball22 on Jul 12, 2020 13:32:00 GMT -5
Yes. Most have granted gap year or gap semester options for all students. Normally, the students can use that just once during college. If they choose that option now, it won’t count as their one-time gap usage (not as much of an issue for athletes, generally, more so for the general student population). So athletes CAN use a gap year and stay for a 5th year as an undergrad student. I wouldn’t technically be a fifth year, as they would be taking a year or semester off. But yes. They can use it.
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Post by jcvball22 on Jul 12, 2020 13:36:02 GMT -5
You are not allowed to “just take a gap year “. I plan for what you are doing for the year must be submitted by a deadline. Each school is doing gap years differently. Harvard is not allowing it. Princeton is allowing It but won’t guarantee when you can get back in. Yale is being the most lenient . Don’t know about the others. Again my question why not for a grad year? Correct. The plan I have heard from the other campuses is similar to Yale. Dartmouth is on the quarter system, so they are a bit different in shifting your “off quarters” around. The loss of “Sophomore Summer” was a big deal for the rising junior class, putting them behind their normal academic progress at this point. Cornell is the only one I haven’t heard about, but the plan there seems to be to bring all students back to campus last I heard. Not sure how they would handle gap year requests.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 12, 2020 14:06:54 GMT -5
You are not allowed to “just take a gap year “. I plan for what you are doing for the year must be submitted by a deadline. Each school is doing gap years differently. Harvard is not allowing it. Princeton is allowing It but won’t guarantee when you can get back in. Yale is being the most lenient . Don’t know about the others. Again my question why not for a grad year? Correct. The plan I have heard from the other campuses is similar to Yale. Dartmouth is on the quarter system, so they are a bit different in shifting your “off quarters” around. The loss of “Sophomore Summer” was a big deal for the rising junior class, putting them behind their normal academic progress at this point. Cornell is the only one I haven’t heard about, but the plan there seems to be to bring all students back to campus last I heard. Not sure how they would handle gap year requests. Cornell is all systems go at this point
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Post by jcvball22 on Jul 12, 2020 14:58:58 GMT -5
Correct. The plan I have heard from the other campuses is similar to Yale. Dartmouth is on the quarter system, so they are a bit different in shifting your “off quarters” around. The loss of “Sophomore Summer” was a big deal for the rising junior class, putting them behind their normal academic progress at this point. Cornell is the only one I haven’t heard about, but the plan there seems to be to bring all students back to campus last I heard. Not sure how they would handle gap year requests. Cornell is all systems go at this point That’s what I figured. But, given the school in the same town, Ithaca College, pushed their semester start date to October 5th, I was wondering if they planned to change. But maybe that staggers the student influx enough to make it reasonable.
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Post by cindra on Jul 12, 2020 15:03:18 GMT -5
Cornell is all systems go at this point That’s what I figured. But, given the school in the same town, Ithaca College, pushed their semester start date to October 5th, I was wondering if they planned to change. But maybe that staggers the student influx enough to make it reasonable. Ithaca is actually starting classes online in September and doing a phased move in based on need (foreign students, practicum classes) over the next month. The association with Cornell and their medical systems as well as being in a small town means they think testing will be readily available if things don't go super south in the next few months. Ithaca also has a lot of on campus housing, with 70+ percent in on campus housing, which means they have a good amount of control over distancing that schools with a lot of off campus students don't have.
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