tlo
Junior High
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Post by tlo on Jul 11, 2020 14:40:35 GMT -5
My DD just finished playing in a sand tournament recently. One of the players on one of the teams my DD played, would hold her hand up for 5-10 seconds signaling to the server (our team) to wait after every point our team served. It seemed to be a deliberate strategy to control the pace of the game. She would hold her hand up and watch other teams play on other courts, even cheering for one of the teams. My question is can a single player control the game in this manner? Is there a time limit for the next serve or is there an amount of times a player can halt play of a game this way?
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Post by trollhunter on Jul 11, 2020 14:54:01 GMT -5
It is courtesy for if a player is screening, sand in eyes, etc.
If used that often ref should ignore, or if no ref, players should ignore.
P.S. NCAA and FIVB rules specify a max time between serves (pace of play).
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Post by Winbabywin on Jul 11, 2020 17:40:43 GMT -5
If there is no ref, it's gonna be hard to police without an argument. The hand holder upper is being a jerk; if she's not doing it for reasons mentioned above.
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Post by geedawg on Jul 11, 2020 21:02:07 GMT -5
under FIVB rules it's supposed to be 12 seconds between the end of one rally and the whistle to start the next service. This of course means you have a three ball system and ball boys/girls to pass the balls along the court.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jul 11, 2020 21:10:57 GMT -5
Do this at, say, a CBVA AA or AAA and things would escalate quickly, as Ron Burgundy would say. Hopefully, the kid in question gets play a match where Viper is the up (is Rick still reffing?).
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cutshot818
Junior
2020 VT All-Rookie Team
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Post by cutshot818 on Jul 12, 2020 1:11:20 GMT -5
When we play recreationally, we usually just turn our back to the server to take care of whatever it is we need to take care of (sand in eyes or need to dust off, adjust sunglasses/hat, etc.) and then turn back around when we're ready to go. That's just one of those unwritten courtesy rules of the beach, old-school style.
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Post by tamz on Jul 12, 2020 11:37:31 GMT -5
Like a Taliqua style serve.
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Post by swift on Jul 13, 2020 3:40:47 GMT -5
under FIVB rules it's supposed to be 12 seconds between the end of one rally and the whistle to start the next service. This of course means you have a three ball system and ball boys/girls to pass the balls along the court. This is interesting. Because it seems to me that the pace of the game has slowed down recently. I guess it's mainly because of all the replays they are showing but at times I think it takes way too long from the end of a rally to the next serve. Definitely longer than 12 seconds. regarding the player raising her hands and delaying the game: There's probably not much you can do about it if there is no ref. Because if you just serve her while she's still holding her hands up, she'll tell you she wasn't ready and you'll need to redo the serve. But I'd certainly say something. The question in these situations always is, is it worth starting a discussion or not. Sometimes arguing over a call or in this case a delay of game throws you off more than just waiting for a player to be ready. But maybe that's just me. |
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Post by volleyballjim on Jul 13, 2020 18:57:08 GMT -5
Our rule is, once the two opponents are "down" (knees bent) you call the score and then immediately serve the ball
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Post by trollhunter on Jul 13, 2020 21:01:24 GMT -5
under FIVB rules it's supposed to be 12 seconds between the end of one rally and the whistle to start the next service. This of course means you have a three ball system and ball boys/girls to pass the balls along the court. This is interesting. Because it seems to me that the pace of the game has slowed down recently. I guess it's mainly because of all the replays they are showing but at times I think it takes way too long from the end of a rally to the next serve. Definitely longer than 12 seconds. regarding the player raising her hands and delaying the game: There's probably not much you can do about it if there is no ref. Because if you just serve her while she's still holding her hands up, she'll tell you she wasn't ready and you'll need to redo the serve. But I'd certainly say something. The question in these situations always is, is it worth starting a discussion or not. Sometimes arguing over a call or in this case a delay of game throws you off more than just waiting for a player to be ready. But maybe that's just me. Good points. I'd say education is the key here. Sounds like a young player, that might not know rules/protocols well. If they are just being a jerk, well this confrontation can be good if you are behind. When done properly you let them get agitated, not you. |
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