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Post by Reach on Jul 24, 2020 17:52:52 GMT -5
Also, with that mentality you wouldn’t have Bartch Hackley in the gym who I would say it’s pretty darn good MBH has been making rosters since 2015... Kingdon is the only other one that has been somewhat close but at what point should another be given an opportunity? |
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Post by Reach on Jul 24, 2020 17:56:24 GMT -5
Can you name some players that are better than the ones named above and deserve more to be in the US gym? Not everyone is going to be Boskovic or Egonu. You need these players to develop, also a lot of them have very successful pro careers which they make the nice living of. I’m just not sure who are you to tell that they’re “wasting” space in the gym. I bet you a lot of national teams would like to have these players. Lanier & Eggleston without a doubt. |
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Post by alohavball on Jul 24, 2020 17:59:51 GMT -5
Also, with that mentality you wouldn’t have Bartch Hackley in the gym who I would say it’s pretty darn good MBH is good, I'm not going to deny that. I haven't followed volleyball seriously until this quad so I'm not sure how she was like in college, when she debuted, or how her development went over the years, but if she took awhile to get where she currently is then great! I wasn't a big fan of Drews back then and her playing in mid level clubs made me think she wasn't going to make the A team, but she eventually did and showed up big time. I'm just not sure that given the same amount of time that Kingdon, Wilhite, Tapp, and even Alhassan can play at a higher level. |
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Post by Reach on Jul 24, 2020 18:00:17 GMT -5
Keep in mind that Karch didn't really start investing that much until 2019. Carlini/Poulter should have been setting everything they could.. Lloyd was done before she began in 2017. More development in the middle and the opp should have been a priority the day after the 2016 Olympics ended but that never happened until last year. Drews came around in 18 but didn't really flourish until last year. We wasted valuable training time for Gibby to play in the middle. Then writing was on the wall 6 years ago with her. These are all fine players but we need the best of the best to win Gold. At least Rettke & Thompson got in on the action last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 18:03:55 GMT -5
Also, with that mentality you wouldn’t have Bartch Hackley in the gym who I would say it’s pretty darn good MBH is good, I'm not going to deny that. I haven't followed volleyball seriously until this quad so I'm not sure how she was like in college, when she debuted, or how her development went over the years, but if she took awhile to get where she currently is then great! I wasn't a big fan of Drews back then and her playing in mid level clubs made me think she wasn't going to make the A team, but she eventually did and showed up big time. I'm just not sure that given the same amount of time that Kingdon, Wilhite, Tapp, and even Alhassan can play at a higher level. MBH actually (briefly) quit the sport after her first pro experience in PR. Definitely almost lost that one. |
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Post by alohavball on Jul 24, 2020 18:09:35 GMT -5
MBH is good, I'm not going to deny that. I haven't followed volleyball seriously until this quad so I'm not sure how she was like in college, when she debuted, or how her development went over the years, but if she took awhile to get where she currently is then great! I wasn't a big fan of Drews back then and her playing in mid level clubs made me think she wasn't going to make the A team, but she eventually did and showed up big time. I'm just not sure that given the same amount of time that Kingdon, Wilhite, Tapp, and even Alhassan can play at a higher level. MBH actually (briefly) quit the sport after her first pro experience in PR. Definitely almost lost that one. Glad she stuck it out! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 18:24:09 GMT -5
It’s going to be very interesting to see who sticks around after Tokyo since the World Championships are the next year. In reality we really need our older vets to retire or that will continue to hurt us down the line.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 24, 2020 18:28:06 GMT -5
It’s going to be very interesting to see who sticks around after Tokyo since the World Championships are the next year. In reality we really need our older vets to retire or that will continue to hurt us down the line. I was wondering about this for many of the national federations who have players close to retirement. I wonder if they were thinking of retiring after Tokyo, but maybe now, they might want one more go at the other major world event since it's only 1 year later? Especially if they are disappointed at their result in Tokyo 2021. |
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Post by werka on Jul 24, 2020 19:12:23 GMT -5
Y’all I dont see what other people see from Wilhite and Kingdon. They’re average at best and shouldn’t really be compared to the likes of Drews who at least in her early years with NT showed that she has a mean arm. There’s nothing really special about those 2.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 19:42:52 GMT -5
It’s going to be very interesting to see who sticks around after Tokyo since the World Championships are the next year. In reality we really need our older vets to retire or that will continue to hurt us down the line. I was wondering about this for many of the national federations who have players close to retirement. I wonder if they were thinking of retiring after Tokyo, but maybe now, they might want one more go at the other major world event since it's only 1 year later? Especially if they are disappointed at their result in Tokyo 2021. I also wonder about coaches on the brink of retirement like Lang Ping, Zoran Terzić and Ze Roberto Guimarães. Will they stick it out another year? Also I anxiously wonder if Jamie Morrison and Stefano Lavarini will land somewhere after this quad? If I remember correctly the Netherlands didn't hold onto Giovanni Caprara after their failed attempt to qualify for Tokyo. I wonder who will take over that program? |
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Post by agean09 on Jul 24, 2020 19:58:00 GMT -5
I was wondering about this for many of the national federations who have players close to retirement. I wonder if they were thinking of retiring after Tokyo, but maybe now, they might want one more go at the other major world event since it's only 1 year later? Especially if they are disappointed at their result in Tokyo 2021. I also wonder about coaches on the brink of retirement like Lang Ping, Zoran Terzić and Ze Roberto Guimarães. Will they stick it out another year? Also I anxiously wonder if Jamie Morrison and Stefano Lavarini will land somewhere after this quad? If I remember correctly the Netherlands didn't hold onto Giovanni Caprara after their failed attempt to qualify for Tokyo. I wonder who will take over that program? I'm pretty sure Lang Ping has already announced that she will retire after Tokyo to move closer to her daughter (here in the U.S.) and take care of her health which hasn't been the best the last several years. |
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Post by Disc808 on Jul 24, 2020 20:09:14 GMT -5
Y’all I dont see what other people see from Wilhite and Kingdon. They’re average at best and shouldn’t really be compared to the likes of Drews who at least in her early years with NT showed that she has a mean arm. There’s nothing really special about those 2. I’m pretty sure the majority opinion on those two is similar to yours lol |
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Post by alohavball on Jul 24, 2020 20:22:06 GMT -5
I was wondering about this for many of the national federations who have players close to retirement. I wonder if they were thinking of retiring after Tokyo, but maybe now, they might want one more go at the other major world event since it's only 1 year later? Especially if they are disappointed at their result in Tokyo 2021. I also wonder about coaches on the brink of retirement like Lang Ping, Zoran Terzić and Ze Roberto Guimarães. Will they stick it out another year? Also I anxiously wonder if Jamie Morrison and Stefano Lavarini will land somewhere after this quad? If I remember correctly the Netherlands didn't hold onto Giovanni Caprara after their failed attempt to qualify for Tokyo. I wonder who will take over that program? Lavarini is the one I'm more interested about. I don't see him staying with South Korea after Tokyo which makes me wonder if he'll coach another NT or just stick to club. I'm sure federations have already made contact about potentially hiring him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 20:24:49 GMT -5
I was wondering about this for many of the national federations who have players close to retirement. I wonder if they were thinking of retiring after Tokyo, but maybe now, they might want one more go at the other major world event since it's only 1 year later? Especially if they are disappointed at their result in Tokyo 2021. I also wonder about coaches on the brink of retirement like Lang Ping, Zoran Terzić and Ze Roberto Guimarães. Will they stick it out another year? Also I anxiously wonder if Jamie Morrison and Stefano Lavarini will land somewhere after this quad? If I remember correctly the Netherlands didn't hold onto Giovanni Caprara after their failed attempt to qualify for Tokyo. I wonder who will take over that program? Hypothetically (this could probably be its own thread) if Karch is done after Tokyo, who replaces him |
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Post by Reach on Jul 24, 2020 20:28:55 GMT -5
I also wonder about coaches on the brink of retirement like Lang Ping, Zoran Terzić and Ze Roberto Guimarães. Will they stick it out another year? Also I anxiously wonder if Jamie Morrison and Stefano Lavarini will land somewhere after this quad? If I remember correctly the Netherlands didn't hold onto Giovanni Caprara after their failed attempt to qualify for Tokyo. I wonder who will take over that program? Hypothetically (this could probably be its own thread) if Karch is done after Tokyo, who replaces him Anyone who doesn't know the words to kumbaya. |
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