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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 9:52:38 GMT -5
Even if the NCAA cancels the the tournament for this season, the Big Ten (and the PAC, etc.) could hold their own post-season conference tournaments, like some of the smaller conferences do. No one is trying to hold additional volleyball games this year...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:28:43 GMT -5
Even if the NCAA cancels the the tournament for this season, the Big Ten (and the PAC, etc.) could hold their own post-season conference tournaments, like some of the smaller conferences do. No one is trying to hold additional volleyball games this year... Sure.
At some point, isn't it semantics and arbitrary lines in the sand? If it's not OK for the Big Ten to hold a 1-weekend long tournament, for say the top 8 teams, why is it OK to still play the games scheduled for the last weekend of the regular season? Why is it OK to play any of the games scheduled for the regular season?
Where is the line, and why?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:38:10 GMT -5
No one is trying to hold additional volleyball games this year... Sure.
At some point, isn't it semantics and arbitrary lines in the sand? If it's not OK for the Big Ten to hold a 1-weekend long tournament, for say the top 8 teams, why is it OK to still play the games scheduled for the last weekend of the regular season? Why is it OK to play any of the games scheduled for the regular season?
Where is the line, and why?
Those are great questions. People way above my pay grade are grappling with them now. Truth is we don't yet know if it IS OK to play a regular season. But the logistics of a conference tournament - when you could just declare a winner from the conference games - makes such an event extremely unlikely.
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Post by n00b on Jul 25, 2020 11:12:00 GMT -5
Sure. At some point, isn't it semantics and arbitrary lines in the sand? If it's not OK for the Big Ten to hold a 1-weekend long tournament, for say the top 8 teams, why is it OK to still play the games scheduled for the last weekend of the regular season? Why is it OK to play any of the games scheduled for the regular season? Where is the line, and why?
Those are great questions. People way above my pay grade are grappling with them now. Truth is we don't yet know if it IS OK to play a regular season. But the logistics of a conference tournament - when you could just declare a winner from the conference games - makes such an event extremely unlikely. Unless the NCAA tournament is cancelled and you want to provide a championship experience. It really doesn’t event have to be 8 teams at one location. They could play Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday at home gyms.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 11:37:43 GMT -5
Those are great questions. People way above my pay grade are grappling with them now. Truth is we don't yet know if it IS OK to play a regular season. But the logistics of a conference tournament - when you could just declare a winner from the conference games - makes such an event extremely unlikely. Unless the NCAA tournament is cancelled and you want to provide a championship experience. It really doesn’t event have to be 8 teams at one location. They could play Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday at home gyms. Right. I only threw out 8 teams at a tournament site for a weekend, because it seemed to me off the top of my head as moderately inclusive and reasonable simple. But that of course doesn't mean it would be the smartest or best way to do conduct such a thing. Likely someone could come up with a smarter way to do something for a limited post-season experience.
Of course, no one is going to do something that puts the ladies and coaches in harm's way, just for the sake of doing something. The risks will be weighed, and perhaps even individual teams may opt out, or the conference may ask who's in quietly and if they don't get enough support they may simply announce that they won't hold one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 12:02:14 GMT -5
Those are great questions. People way above my pay grade are grappling with them now. Truth is we don't yet know if it IS OK to play a regular season. But the logistics of a conference tournament - when you could just declare a winner from the conference games - makes such an event extremely unlikely. Unless the NCAA tournament is cancelled and you want to provide a championship experience. It really doesn’t event have to be 8 teams at one location. They could play Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday at home gyms. Without fans, who pays for it? The conference? The schools?? With the deficits they're looking at? Sorry, no chance.
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Post by n00b on Jul 25, 2020 12:16:49 GMT -5
Unless the NCAA tournament is cancelled and you want to provide a championship experience. It really doesn’t event have to be 8 teams at one location. They could play Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday at home gyms. Without fans, who pays for it? The conference? The schools?? With the deficits they're looking at? Sorry, no chance. 20 matches with no conference tournament would be about the same cost as 18 matches and an 8-team tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 12:27:08 GMT -5
Without fans, who pays for it? The conference? The schools?? With the deficits they're looking at? Sorry, no chance. 20 matches with no conference tournament would be about the same cost as 18 matches and an 8-team tournament. The B10 were preparing to cancel the season yesterday... (that decision will now be made during the first week of August). You think they're planning a conference tournament?
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Post by n00b on Jul 25, 2020 12:45:00 GMT -5
20 matches with no conference tournament would be about the same cost as 18 matches and an 8-team tournament. The B10 were preparing to cancel the season yesterday... (that decision will now be made during the first week of August). You think they're planning a conference tournament? No clue. But if they play, I think it's a cheaper way to crown a fair champion because you can keep all conference play as regional as possible. Imbalanced schedules don't matter. Nebraska and Penn State wouldn't have to play until the tournament. And Nebraska and Rutgers would NEVER have to waste their time and money playing each other.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 12:51:49 GMT -5
The B10 were preparing to cancel the season yesterday... (that decision will now be made during the first week of August). You think they're planning a conference tournament? No clue. But if they play, I think it's a cheaper way to crown a fair champion because you can keep all conference play as regional as possible. Imbalanced schedules don't matter. Nebraska and Penn State wouldn't have to play until the tournament. And Nebraska and Rutgers would NEVER have to waste their time and money playing each other. I absolutely agree it would be a fairer resolution. But right now, unless the sport is football, schools are trying to play fewer games, not more.
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Post by n00b on Jul 25, 2020 12:55:33 GMT -5
No clue. But if they play, I think it's a cheaper way to crown a fair champion because you can keep all conference play as regional as possible. Imbalanced schedules don't matter. Nebraska and Penn State wouldn't have to play until the tournament. And Nebraska and Rutgers would NEVER have to waste their time and money playing each other. I absolutely agree it would be a fairer resolution. But right now, unless the sport is football, schools are trying to play fewer games, not more. Totally. I assumed it would involve reducing the number of regular season conference matches. That's the model of lower budget conferences. Fewer scheduled matches and a tournament.
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Post by trollhunter on Jul 25, 2020 13:05:28 GMT -5
The B10 were preparing to cancel the season yesterday... (that decision will now be made during the first week of August). You think they're planning a conference tournament? No clue. But if they play, I think it's a cheaper way to crown a fair champion because you can keep all conference play as regional as possible. Imbalanced schedules don't matter. Nebraska and Penn State wouldn't have to play until the tournament. And Nebraska and Rutgers would NEVER have to waste their time and money playing each other. Another idea is to play divisions only regular season and top 2 from each division in a "final 4" B1G conference tournament. Gotta love un-named site ad interupting this 16 times in 2 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 13:19:29 GMT -5
20 matches with no conference tournament would be about the same cost as 18 matches and an 8-team tournament. The B10 were preparing to cancel the season yesterday... (that decision will now be made during the first week of August). You think they're planning a conference tournament? Obviously if the whole season is cancelled, they wouldn't hold a post-season conference tournament.
I'm not aware of any such rumors, though. Maybe you're talking about the OP -- that's the NCAA only, discussing their post-season tournament only. That has nothing to do with the conferences.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 13:32:39 GMT -5
The B10 were preparing to cancel the season yesterday... (that decision will now be made during the first week of August). You think they're planning a conference tournament? Obviously if the whole season is cancelled, they wouldn't hold a post-season conference tournament.
I'm not aware of any such rumors, though. Maybe you're talking about the OP -- that's the NCAA only, discussing their post-season tournament only. That has nothing to do with the conferences.
I'm not talking about the OP... The conference was preparing to cancel VB yesterday, according to a source who would definitely know.
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Post by northwoods on Jul 25, 2020 13:35:21 GMT -5
Even if the NCAA cancels the the tournament for this season, the Big Ten (and the PAC, etc.) could hold their own post-season conference tournaments, like some of the smaller conferences do. If there is no national championship this year, would top seniors choose to play? I believe the NCAA has already stated that any player may opt out of this season, given the possible health risks and retain that year of eligibility and remain on scholarship. If I were a senior and could either add another year of eligibility to my career or play some truncated conference only schedule.....that would be an easy decision. Whether you would be offered a scholarship at the same school the following year is another issue, but isn’t that what the transfer portal is for I guess?
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