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Post by ToddyJ on Jul 27, 2020 18:01:20 GMT -5
I debated whether or not to do a Gonzalez, DelaCruz, B. Martinez combo. Who does Eve stay in to pass for on the back row? When that occurs who does Castillo come in for if at all? Most commonly, Eve follows De La Cruz' serve, so De La Cruz gets replaced by Castillo until she goes back front row, but not always.
It kind of goes like this: Eve stays in -- after her 1st serve (whether DR scores the point or not) Castillo will come in to replace whichever OH is in the backrow and passing, though it's possible she can replace the backrow OPP depending on the circumstance.
That's why you'll notice Castillo off the court at times when either of their OH's are serving (and conversely, she could remain on the court when Eve and/or Jineiry are serving)
Do you have a suggested match maybe with a link where I can watch this? Castillo didn't really play with the team in 2019 but I'm sure I can find the same pattern with the back-up Libero right? Or is Castillo a crucial cog to this system? I know she is an amazing boon for the team.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 27, 2020 18:07:12 GMT -5
Most commonly, Eve follows De La Cruz' serve, so De La Cruz gets replaced by Castillo until she goes back front row, but not always. It kind of goes like this: Eve stays in -- after her 1st serve (whether DR scores the point or not) Castillo will come in to replace whichever OH is in the backrow and passing, though it's possible she can replace the backrow OPP depending on the circumstance.
That's why you'll notice Castillo off the court at times when either of their OH's are serving (and conversely, she could remain on the court when Eve and/or Jineiry are serving)
Do you have a suggested match maybe with a link where I can watch this? Castillo didn't really play with the team in 2019 but I'm sure I can find the same pattern with the back-up Libero right? Or is Castillo a crucial cog to this system? I know she is an amazing boon for the team.
Watch the Brazil and Russia matches from the 2019 World Cup. Eve had 20+ reception attempts in both of those matches. She passed nearly that amount against Serbia too in the World Cup.
I realized I should have said *libero* instead of Castillo.
Eve played all the way around with Castillo against Brazil in the match to qualify for the Olympics. (though I'm not sure she did every set)
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Post by trojansc on Jul 27, 2020 18:08:37 GMT -5
Brazil's trio, if healthy, is top 3. But if not healthy, Brazil is a hot mess, yes?
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Post by ToddyJ on Jul 27, 2020 18:13:36 GMT -5
Brazil's trio, if healthy, is top 3. But if not healthy, Brazil is a hot mess, yes? Not entirely. Drussyla Costa and Fernanda Garay could still play at OH and do just about as good a job as Natalia. Gabi is easily top 5 in the world right now so if she got injured that would really be a blow to their medal hopes. Opposite is also kinda loaded too. Lorenne is a very good option and then you have veteran Sheilla Castro who is quite crafty at nearly 40 years old but is back and playing decently but probably not at Tandara's level. Dani Lins and Fabiana are very much in the conversation. I am unsure about Adenizia or Thaisa. Hell even Jacque is still playing professionally. It will just depend on who answers the call for one last hurrah. Ze Roberto is retiring so this truly is the end of the golden era for Brazil. Lot's of restructuring will have to occur post 2021/22 for the team to be in the conversation moving forward.
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Post by ToddyJ on Jul 27, 2020 18:21:21 GMT -5
Hill has to prove she wants it before she gets my vote. I think MBH has passed her on the depth chart. We shall see 😊 Why are we under the impression she doesn't want it? To me she just didn't look hungry after her break last season. Her numbers definitely reflected this. She has also been critical of the length of the international season during some post match interviews I have seen. That doesn't mean she is out of the running....I just don't think she is a shoe-in since the competition at that position for roster spots is pretty tough....let alone for a consistent starting spot (which I don't think that exists between the top 4 at the moment). It's anyones ball for the taking. Also on some level I wonder if Karch blames her and Murphy for their Rio finish? Both got benched in that semi-final vs. Serbia. TBH Glass should have taken a seat...she played her worst game of the tournament. I guess I just wonder about these things. This doesn't mean she won't rally and get that starting spot back. I would say the same thing about Akinradewo and Adams too. No one is safe and the young guns are proving they have what it takes to get the team to a medal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 19:12:03 GMT -5
My vote definitely goes to Serbia
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Post by reformate on Jul 27, 2020 21:48:06 GMT -5
In Pokemon competitive battling speak (hahahaha) SPI = Spikes, BLO = Blocks, SER = Serves, DEF = Floor defense (digs and receives) Each skill rated from 1 (lowest) to 5 (highest)
BRA: Ubers [Gabi, Natalia, Tandara] SPI **** BLO *** SER **** DEF *****
CHN: Ubers [Zhu, Zhang, Gong] SPI ***** BLO **** SER ***** DEF ***
USA: Ubers [Larson, Bartsch-Hackley, Drews] SPI **** BLO * SER **** DEF ****
ITA: OverUsed (OU) [Bosetti, Sylla, Egonu] SPI **** BLO ***** SER ** DEF **
SRB: OverUsed (OU) [Mihajlovic, Busa, Boskovic] SPI ***** BLO *** SER * DEF ***
RUS: UnderUsed (UU) [Kosheleva, Voronkova, Goncharova] SPI **** BLO *** SER *** DEF *
TUR: UnderUsed (UU) [Ismailoglu, Baladin, Boz] SPI *** BLO *** SER *** DEF ***
JPN: RarelyUsed (RU) [Ishii, Koga, Nagaoka] SPI ** BLO * SER ** DEF ****
KOR: RarelyUsed (RU) [Lee JY, Kim YK, Kim HJ] SPI ** BLO * SER **** DEF ***
DOM: RarelyUsed (RU) [De La Cruz, Rivera, B.Martinez] SPI *** BLO ** SER *** DEF **
ARG: NeverUsed (NU) [Rodriguez, Nizetich, Fresco] SPI * BLO * SER *** DEF **
KEN: NeverUsed (NU) [Moim, Murambi, Chepchumba] SPI * BLO * SER * DEF *
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Post by Reach on Jul 27, 2020 22:43:34 GMT -5
But if not healthy, Brazil is a hot mess, yes? Not entirely. Drussyla Costa and Fernanda Garay could still play at OH and do just about as good a job as Natalia. Gabi is easily top 5 in the world right now so if she got injured that would really be a blow to their medal hopes. Opposite is also kinda loaded too. Lorenne is a very good option and then you have veteran Sheilla Castro who is quite crafty at nearly 40 years old but is back and playing decently but probably not at Tandara's level. Dani Lins and Fabiana are very much in the conversation. I am unsure about Adenizia or Thaisa. Hell even Jacque is still playing professionally. It will just depend on who answers the call for one last hurrah. Ze Roberto is retiring so this truly is the end of the golden era for Brazil. Lot's of restructuring will have to occur post 2021/22 for the team to be in the conversation moving forward. Brazil needs a healthy Natalia to compete for a medal and a different setter. I don’t understand how Marcis became a thing.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 27, 2020 23:08:58 GMT -5
Not entirely. Drussyla Costa and Fernanda Garay could still play at OH and do just about as good a job as Natalia. Gabi is easily top 5 in the world right now so if she got injured that would really be a blow to their medal hopes. Opposite is also kinda loaded too. Lorenne is a very good option and then you have veteran Sheilla Castro who is quite crafty at nearly 40 years old but is back and playing decently but probably not at Tandara's level. Dani Lins and Fabiana are very much in the conversation. I am unsure about Adenizia or Thaisa. Hell even Jacque is still playing professionally. It will just depend on who answers the call for one last hurrah. Ze Roberto is retiring so this truly is the end of the golden era for Brazil. Lot's of restructuring will have to occur post 2021/22 for the team to be in the conversation moving forward. Brazil needs a healthy Natalia to compete for a medal and a different setter. I don’t understand how Marcis became a thing. Lack of alternatives?
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Post by Reach on Jul 27, 2020 23:27:01 GMT -5
Brazil needs a healthy Natalia to compete for a medal and a different setter. I don’t understand how Marcis became a thing. Lack of alternatives? Dani Lins can't be done, can she? And Roberta is better imo but I don't know.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 27, 2020 23:36:46 GMT -5
Dani Lins can't be done, can she? And Roberta is better imo but I don't know. Don't know about Dani Lins. As for Marcis vs Roberta, yeah I can see you could be right, but of course its what Ze thinks that matters in the end.
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Post by ToddyJ on Jul 27, 2020 23:52:27 GMT -5
Not entirely. Drussyla Costa and Fernanda Garay could still play at OH and do just about as good a job as Natalia. Gabi is easily top 5 in the world right now so if she got injured that would really be a blow to their medal hopes. Opposite is also kinda loaded too. Lorenne is a very good option and then you have veteran Sheilla Castro who is quite crafty at nearly 40 years old but is back and playing decently but probably not at Tandara's level. Dani Lins and Fabiana are very much in the conversation. I am unsure about Adenizia or Thaisa. Hell even Jacque is still playing professionally. It will just depend on who answers the call for one last hurrah. Ze Roberto is retiring so this truly is the end of the golden era for Brazil. Lot's of restructuring will have to occur post 2021/22 for the team to be in the conversation moving forward. Brazil needs a healthy Natalia to compete for a medal and a different setter. I don’t understand how Marcis became a thing. What happened is that Macris won the Brazilian Superliga with Itambé/Minas in 2019 with Natalia, Gabi, Leia, and Mara who are all on the NT. Roberta was the starter in 2017 and she seemed to have things under control winning the WGP and placing 2nd at the Grand Champions Cup. Then in 2018 the team had an abysmal year under Roberta and Dani Lins (just past her pregnancy and not really in the best shape yet). So going into 2019 Macris had the best connection with most of the hitters on the A-Team. I too think Roberta is the best option. She is also a pretty tall setter on a team where height can sometimes be an issue. Now Dani Lins is back (she has done an interview with the FIVB so it's legit) so once again the team has 3 setters in the mix. In fact....I think we will see most of Ze's golden girls try one more time and I expect to see several on the VNL roster in 2021, maybe even in Tokyo.
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Post by ToddyJ on Jul 27, 2020 23:55:46 GMT -5
In Pokemon competitive battling speak (hahahaha) SPI = Spikes, BLO = Blocks, SER = Serves, DEF = Floor defense (digs and receives) Each skill rated from 1 (lowest) to 5 (highest) BRA: Ubers [Gabi, Natalia, Tandara] SPI **** BLO *** SER **** DEF ***** CHN: Ubers [Zhu, Zhang, Gong] SPI ***** BLO **** SER ***** DEF *** USA: Ubers [Larson, Bartsch-Hackley, Drews] SPI **** BLO * SER **** DEF **** ITA: OverUsed (OU) [Bosetti, Sylla, Egonu] SPI **** BLO ***** SER ** DEF ** SRB: OverUsed (OU) [Mihajlovic, Busa, Boskovic] SPI ***** BLO *** SER * DEF *** RUS: UnderUsed (UU) [Kosheleva, Voronkova, Goncharova] SPI **** BLO *** SER *** DEF * TUR: UnderUsed (UU) [Ismailoglu, Baladin, Boz] SPI *** BLO *** SER *** DEF *** I think the three medalist will come from these seven teams. Also....what is up with the abysmal pin blocking from the USA?! Ooofff.
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Post by jay on Jul 28, 2020 8:25:58 GMT -5
I'm afraid our Toddy j is going to be absolutely heartbroken if the USA doesn't medal in Tokyo. Love the passion Toddy brings to the game but after reviewing the China vs USA WC match I still believe it's going to be China, Serbia, and Italy with the top three medals. Our NCAA love and low-level NT season tournaments seem to sometimes cloud our vision as to the true talent that we possess this cycle.
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 28, 2020 9:32:50 GMT -5
Who was predicting Brazil being knocked out before semis in Rio? Hell, who was predicting anybody beating the US in London? The favorite hasn't won gold in either of the past two Olympics. We will see
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