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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Jul 30, 2020 20:51:52 GMT -5
Just saw this story reposted on ESPN.com via Google aggregated news (originally an AP story);
guaranteed to not disappear since those two heavy-hitters (Associated Press, ESPN) are "on it".
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Post by hammer on Jul 30, 2020 20:57:16 GMT -5
Barnard will be gone soon. The price to keep him is now too high for Oregon State.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 30, 2020 21:07:28 GMT -5
Yeesh. 'There should be no communication with Marianne about anything going on with this team unless I am physically assaulting someone.' That is baldly incorrect and illegal guidance and probably a fireable offense at my university. There are a number of things like that in this article. OSU has the reins - although they have to worry about litigation, not to mention reputation. Releasing this report is clearly a sign that people were frustrated with the foot dragging.
It is not atypical for abusive people in power to cultivate favorites and targets. So, I'm never surprised when accounts of abuse are paired with testaments of support. Abusers often don't think of themselves as abusers, but rather as the abused or wronged. That's one of the things that makes them so destructive.
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Post by saywhatnow on Jul 30, 2020 21:15:01 GMT -5
As in all of these cases, there are players who come out in support of the coach. Oregon State Volleyball is retweeting those comments. Not sure if I would do that. If there has actually been an investigation and actions taken against the coach (as the University admits), it seems like it's not the best idea for an official account to be suggesting in a backhanded way that the accounts are not really true. whoever their social media manager is needs to be fired. Period. This is a crisis comms situation and they should NOT be out there liking and retweeting support for a coach who is being accused of such abuse.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Jul 30, 2020 21:50:26 GMT -5
Barnard will be gone soon. The price to keep him is now too high for Oregon State. I just went to a weekly alternative newsmagazine I am familiar with in the town where OSU is located: Corvallis, Oregon. I dug into their archives; it seems a cover-up of massive proportions was first attempted by Oregon State's admins before this story hit-the-fan. Don't these institutions ever learn? Think Penn State/ Nassar!
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Post by gobruins on Jul 31, 2020 8:05:57 GMT -5
Who are the two assistants that recently left and where are they now? Blaise Grant/Jessica Quinn; no clue where they are now. Coaching staff's way reduced. Blaise Grant is now an assistant coach at Casper College (JC in Wyoming). Jessica Quinn is Director of Operations at Tennessee. Ron Zwerver is a 3rd coach who has left Oregon State in the last year.
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Post by hammer on Jul 31, 2020 9:16:11 GMT -5
Barnard will be gone soon. The price to keep him is now too high for Oregon State. I just went to a weekly alternative newsmagazine I am familiar with in the town where OSU is located: Corvallis, Oregon. I dug into their archives; it seems a cover-up of massive proportions was first attempted by Oregon State's admins before this story hit-the-fan. Don't these institutions ever learn? Think Penn State/ Nassar! I've been to Corvallis several times. It is a place time forgot and very much off the beaten track. In small towns like Corvallis I think there is a tendency to retrench and turn a blind eye. With the news breaking there is no choice now. Time to exorcize the demons.
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Post by bigfan on Jul 31, 2020 9:46:54 GMT -5
After reading this article I just can’t seem to shake the feeling that this is happening a lot more than we think. Just saying that it is not “Division 1 isn’t for all”. It is that sometimes winning and having the best roster seems more important to coaches than their players health. This goes on all over the country. OSU needs to terminate this guy ASAP. What surprises me is that there are dozens of good coach's who would love to have a shot to coach a D-1 Pac-12 team who will never get a sniff.
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Post by n00b on Jul 31, 2020 10:17:35 GMT -5
Barnard will be gone soon. The price to keep him is now too high for Oregon State. I just went to a weekly alternative newsmagazine I am familiar with in the town where OSU is located: Corvallis, Oregon. I dug into their archives; it seems a cover-up of massive proportions was first attempted by Oregon State's admins before this story hit-the-fan. Don't these institutions ever learn? Think Penn State/ Nassar! Comparing Barnard to child molesters is completely inappropriate.
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Post by vbjustice on Jul 31, 2020 11:50:43 GMT -5
Rough for new incoming players and their families who are probably second guessing their decision.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:09:20 GMT -5
I just went to a weekly alternative newsmagazine I am familiar with in the town where OSU is located: Corvallis, Oregon. I dug into their archives; it seems a cover-up of massive proportions was first attempted by Oregon State's admins before this story hit-the-fan. Don't these institutions ever learn? Think Penn State/ Nassar! Comparing Barnard to child molesters is completely inappropriate. You're not wrong, but it certainly seems to be mental/emotional abuse, and some of these girls are still in their late teens, not kids but hardly full-blown adults.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Jul 31, 2020 12:19:47 GMT -5
Comparing Barnard to child molesters is completely inappropriate. You're not wrong, but it certainly seems to be mental/emotional abuse, and some of these girls are still in their late teens, not kids but hardly full-blown adults. Just as our Google-Wikipedia keyboard warrior likes to get relatable information that other posters can assimilate...so do I. Horrific scandals in general, oh VT Zippy; Overreact + nitpick much, dude? Not comparing at all. Alluding/referring to coverups! n00b
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Post by saywhatnow on Jul 31, 2020 14:21:33 GMT -5
I just went to a weekly alternative newsmagazine I am familiar with in the town where OSU is located: Corvallis, Oregon. I dug into their archives; it seems a cover-up of massive proportions was first attempted by Oregon State's admins before this story hit-the-fan. Don't these institutions ever learn? Think Penn State/ Nassar! Comparing Barnard to child molesters is completely inappropriate. THE COVERUP is worse than the crime. We can insert any coverup from PSU to MSU to Baylor to draw a comparison to how administrations think they are above the law.
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Post by n00b on Jul 31, 2020 14:26:16 GMT -5
Comparing Barnard to child molesters is completely inappropriate. THE COVERUP is worse than the crime. We can insert any coverup from PSU to MSU to Baylor to draw a comparison to how administrations think they are above the law. So any time a player complains to administrators that coach was mean, it should be publicized?
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Post by eazy on Jul 31, 2020 14:36:12 GMT -5
THE COVERUP is worse than the crime. We can insert any coverup from PSU to MSU to Baylor to draw a comparison to how administrations think they are above the law. So any time a player complains to administrators that coach was mean, it should be publicized? I suppose the size of the cover-up matters? Where an okay cover-up becomes an offensive cover-up might have 49 shades of grey.
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