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Post by HawaiiVB on Aug 8, 2020 16:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 8, 2020 21:48:55 GMT -5
Hello everyone, it’s Jenna Gray (on my dad's account hehe) this will be my first and last post on Volleytalk but I was told that a thread was started about my TikTok and I thought I’d clear the air. Let me start off by saying it was all in good fun, I posted it knowing that a lot of college volleyball players would get a chuckle out of it. Volleytalk is kind of taboo amongst players because everyone says they don’t go on it, but we all can’t resist the temptation to sneak a peek every once in a while. In no way am I trying to talk negatively about the site, I actually think it is so important for the growth of our sport that there is a way for individuals to discuss, analyze, and debate our matches/seasons. Going into my freshman year at Stanford, I did not expect to see the court. I just went in knowing that I enjoyed the team and wanted to get my education at one of the top universities. I’m sure you can all imagine how shocked I was when I got to play, we won a national championship, and I found out that people were talking about me! I’ll admit, I got on the site thinking that people would be praising me because we had just won but there was a lot of criticism too. It was a tough pill to swallow at first, but it did teach me that as athletes we are in the public eye more than the average person and it is a privilege to receive all of that attention…however, I never went on Volleytalk after that and would advise other players to not go on. As you all know, college athletes balance so many other things outside of their sport. We feel a lot of pressure to perform well and want to make people proud of us. One of the biggest takeaways from my four years at Stanford was that the only opinions that you should worry about are your own and the people that are in the gym with you everyday. They see how hard you work and fully understand everything that you are trying to do. My career at Stanford would mean nothing if I didn’t have the friendships and respect of my teammates/staff at the end of it. My message for any hs/college players - don’t come on here for a confidence boost (you probably will get the opposite), know that you need a tough skin to play at the collegiate level, and as long as you are trying your hardest, the people that really matter are proud of you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this site would be very boring if everyone agreed. My message for posters - thank you for being so passionate and for creating a space for people to learn more about our sport. I agree, you are all allowed to post your analysis of games/players, but please just do so in a respectful manner. We can’t expect to only get praise, but remember that we are human beings too and there is no website for us to anonymously critique what you do for a living Thank you again for your support and yes, I know my set location is sketchy at times. If you’re frustrated with it, you can only imagine how I feel Go Card! Jenna This is a very mature take. Good luck!
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Post by horns1 on Aug 8, 2020 22:37:36 GMT -5
I run a site on an international VB board. Since its inception they had no rules set in place. Pops joined ~two years back; me just over a year ago now. THAT was an out-of-control, toxic forum! A board owner delegated authority to a band of 3 longtime posters. They did an 'enema', a thorough purging, of lurkers, posers, saboteurs, stalkers + trolls. It's still lively; not vicious anymore. Do Volleytalk a huge favor and go back there and stay there.
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Post by hammer on Aug 9, 2020 0:12:32 GMT -5
I admit to being one of the most critical posters on VTalk. Wolfgang, I'm still waiting on that book report.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 9, 2020 0:34:34 GMT -5
I admit to being one of the most critical posters on VTalk. Wolfgang, I'm still waiting on that book report. You and me both, pal. I'm still waiting on the book itself.
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Post by huskerrob on Aug 9, 2020 4:02:39 GMT -5
If someone is getting personal about a player, they no doubt will be given the extreme verbal shellacking they have coming to them. There is no room to critique someone's personal life, for the sake of sports fandom.
Having said that, I haven't seen it, so it might not be so frequent after all. If a player is taking any criticism as being a personal attack, then they should get with their coaches and address practices of separation, for the game isn't anyone's life. It is very much acceptable at being lousy at something, and still be considered an amazing person.
Could you imagine if the QB was to complain to SI or ESPN on how mean they are by commenting on their lack of talent or their inability to handle the pressure, or their skill sets not being matched to the game/position they are playing? Could you imagine a pitcher from the MLB trying to tone down the AP writers about the slop they threw in the 5th...Imagine if Derek Jeter used writers to base is worth off of? Pick the sport, then pick an important position in that sport, and I assure you the greatest at that position that has ever played received bad press and was critiqued for their play. It is part of the exchange for fame and fandom. Without it, there would just be kids playing a game in HS and not much else.
I am not at all suggesting Ms Gray is doing anything btw, her involvement is just coincidental to the context being discussed, an example. I would hope Ms. Grays supporting staff has her understanding she plays for a top notch team in a highly competitive league and is the envy of many...those facts by themselves should be rewarding and affirming enough to be great with. If there is any value in a player reading critiques, it might be to get a different opinion, a different take on the visuals that are being received, and make up their own minds as to the validity of any one thing stated. Or just to keep them grounded after hearing the constant praise of their local booster clubs. Otherwise log on to be a supplier of opinion, as their take and viewpoint being unique could be very valuable.
I don't believe I have been mean and I don't plan on being any different. I am but a fan with ignorant opinion that only matters to selling tickets and commercials and if someone puts more value into my opinion than that, well that is on them.
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Post by gobruins on Aug 9, 2020 6:48:29 GMT -5
Do Volleytalk a huge favor and go back there and stay there. Awww: poor, dear chowda....We just want you to be institutionalized, err, happy. I am so crushed...you said that I was "the best poster on Volleytalk", plus that i "was your favorite"; you hoped to be as 'astute' and 'knowledgeable' (paraphrasing your quote; insanity isn't my "thing"). Keep hoping VT Five-0 doesn't ban you ; ain't gonna happen; so many more are hoping & praying that you look in a mirror. Why do you make your posts look like a 1960's-era ransom note?
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 9, 2020 7:41:31 GMT -5
If someone is getting personal about a player, they no doubt will be given the extreme verbal shellacking they have coming to them. There is no room to critique someone's personal life, for the sake of sports fandom. Having said that, I haven't seen it, so it might not be so frequent after all. If a player is taking any criticism as being a personal attack, then they should get with their coaches and address practices of separation, for the game isn't anyone's life. It is very much acceptable at being lousy at something, and still be considered an amazing person. Not too common, but personal life of players are mentioned now and then. Not necessarily always in a critical or attacking fashion, maybe just irrelevant to the main discussion. Of course, if some player intentionally make themselves more of a public figure (i.e. Kelsey Robinson's vlog on Youtube), then ok in that case, you can comment on their personal life a little more, but even so, that should only be limited to the issue raised by their specific vlog/blog and not so much other irrelevant aspect of their personal lives.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 9, 2020 8:26:21 GMT -5
Not too common, but personal life of players are mentioned now and then. Injuries and possible injuries are discussed all the time, and yet that is actually part of the personal life of the athletes.
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 9, 2020 8:28:44 GMT -5
Not too common, but personal life of players are mentioned now and then. Injuries and possible injuries are discussed all the time, and yet that is actually part of the personal life of the athletes. Yes, but usually we are talking about their injuries in relations to their on court career and performance, not so much the impact on their personal lives.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Aug 9, 2020 10:29:03 GMT -5
It took some getting used to. I am used to CFB boards where you can just let it fly, and no one will ever see it because there are a million CFB boards.
Here, if you say anything about a player or a coach, good or bad, there is like a 99% chance that they will read it.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Aug 9, 2020 11:24:37 GMT -5
... there is no website for us to anonymously critique what you do for a living Hmmm...but what if...
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Post by VolleyTX on Aug 9, 2020 17:41:48 GMT -5
I have to say that most of the true vitriol on this board goes toward one another and coaches. I rarely see anything nasty written about players (except maybe Tom and Hooker). Compared to Facebook, Twitter or almost any other social media, I find Volleytalk to be quite refreshing which I think speaks a lot about the cooperative nature of the sport of volleyball.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Aug 10, 2020 10:25:26 GMT -5
idk if this goes on this forum or off the net because this pertains with the athletes and volleytalkers. i follow jenna grey on tiktok, LOVE HER SHE IS SO FUNNY. anyways she made this video talking about how ruthless volleytalk is. vm.tiktok.com/JjEEUEJ/as a community, i feel that we need to realize that athletes are human too and to take their feelings in consideration. it’s really unfortunate that an athlete at that caliber believes that she isn’t good after her freshman year because some randos behind a screen said she wasn’t. try to think about how you would feel if someone said something like that about you before you click the post button. Ugh to the music, should have warning labels on these things. I have PTSD from accidentally watching Pitch Perfect with my wife, was a devastating moment to be sure. Cannot unsee what I was exposed to during those 90 minutes.
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