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Post by VolleyballMag on Aug 8, 2020 10:42:26 GMT -5
Edited and updated: NEC lists 10 schools, but Mount St. Mary's and Wagner don't have volleyball. Also, the CAA has five out and four in, hence the number is 99.
This my working list of conferences that have postponed to spring and how it affects volleyball. I welcome updates, corrections, additions, whatever. I'm working on a story and have done quite a few interviews with an eye on posting Monday. If you're a coach in one of those leagues and have thoughts you'd like to contribute to the story, email me at lee@volleyballmag.com:
America East -- 7 Atlantic 10 -- 10 Big West -- 9 Colonial -- 4 (5 out, 4 still planning on playing) Ivy -- 8 MAAC -- 10 MEAC -- 11 MAC -- 12 Northeast -- 8 Patriot -- 9 (could be 7 if Army, Navy actually play) SWAC -- 10
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Post by VolleyballMag on Aug 8, 2020 10:53:43 GMT -5
The NCAA has given me a list and says there are 332 teams. Some people count up to 335. If more than half go to the spring, there won't be an NCAA championship. The magic number for more than half of 332 is 167; more than half of 335 is 168.
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Post by FUBAR on Aug 8, 2020 11:07:03 GMT -5
The NCAA has given me a list and says there are 332 teams. Some people count up to 335. If more than half go to the spring, there won't be an NCAA championship. The magic number for more than half of 332 is 167; more than half of 335 is 168. 3 teams reclassifying. Bellarmine, Dixie St. & Tarleton St.
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Post by n00b on Aug 8, 2020 11:18:35 GMT -5
Last year ended with 335 teams in the final NCAA RPI. Teams new to D1 this fall (UC San Diego, Dixie State, Tarleton State, Bellarmine) are ineligible. Cal Baptist, North Alabama and Merrimack are also reclassifying so ineligible. That would get you to 332. However, I assumed Old Dominion would be immediately eligible to make that number 333. VolleyballMag, are they not on the list?
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Post by VolleyballMag on Aug 8, 2020 11:28:02 GMT -5
Old Dominion is not on the list.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Aug 8, 2020 11:47:44 GMT -5
Well. I guess that we won't be needing a Mac thread this fall.
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Aug 8, 2020 15:19:15 GMT -5
Well. I guess that we won't be needing a Mac thread this fall. Gives you more time for you favorite pass-time...trashing that team from up North!
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Post by trojansc on Aug 8, 2020 15:38:07 GMT -5
What happened to the MAC in volleyball?
In 2011, Ball State, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, and Western Michigan all made the NCAA tournament. Northern Illinois had an RPI of 14.
What contributed to its demise?
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Post by volleav on Aug 8, 2020 15:50:48 GMT -5
This my working list of conferences that have postponed to spring and how it affects volleyball. I welcome updates, corrections, additions, whatever. I'm working on a story and have done quite a few interviews with an eye on posting Monday. If you're a coach in one of those leagues and have thoughts you'd like to contribute to the story, email me at lee@volleyballmag.com: America East -- 7 Atlantic 10 -- 10 Big West -- 9 Colonial -- 4 (4 out, 5 still planning on playing) Ivy -- 8 MAAC -- 10 MEAC -- 11 MAC -- 12 Northeast 10 Patriot -- 9 (could be 7 if Army, Navy actually play) SWAC -- 10 So currently at 100. So 30% if assuming 332 schools.
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Post by money on Aug 8, 2020 16:25:34 GMT -5
What happened to the MAC in volleyball? In 2011, Ball State, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, and Western Michigan all made the NCAA tournament. Northern Illinois had an RPI of 14. What contributed to its demise? 2011 was an anomaly. The MAC has only had a max of 1 at-large team in any other year... it was similar to the Horizon League’s RPI of this last fall. When everyone has a good preconference record, the RPI builds on itself through the conference schedule. Also - the resource gap gets wider and wider every year. BTN, SEC Network, ACC Network, Pac 12 network all come together after 2011 - and although the resources were never equal - in between kids have been harder to convince to stay in the MAC. In a similar way, MAC football programs have had to try and “keep up” with Jones’. That drains department dollars. Finally, MAC Institutions have had a decline in student enrollment which contributes to athletic budgets. These are just a couple reasons.
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Post by n00b on Aug 8, 2020 16:42:04 GMT -5
What happened to the MAC in volleyball? In 2011, Ball State, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, and Western Michigan all made the NCAA tournament. Northern Illinois had an RPI of 14. What contributed to its demise? 2011 was an anomaly. The MAC has only had a max of 1 at-large team in any other year... it was similar to the Horizon League’s RPI of this last fall. When everyone has a good preconference record, the RPI builds on itself through the conference schedule. Also - the resource gap gets wider and wider every year. BTN, SEC Network, ACC Network, Pac 12 network all come together after 2011 - and although the resources were never equal - in between kids have been harder to convince to stay in the MAC. In a similar way, MAC football programs have had to try and “keep up” with Jones’. That drains department dollars. Finally, MAC Institutions have had a decline in student enrollment which contributes to athletic budgets. These are just a couple reasons. I don't think MAC schools were ever getting kids to choose them over Power 5 schools. So I agree with the financial gap increasing, but I don't think that can fully explain why the MAC has gotten worse. Clearly the Horizon League has been able to better recruit the region. Wright State, Northern Kentucky, Green Bay, UIC are trending way up. Maybe that is at the expense of MAC programs.
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Post by DustyDude87 on Aug 8, 2020 18:05:20 GMT -5
I think some of the MAC volleyball teams years to come will compete top 50. Many teams pull great recruits but have to put a great team together to compete at a high level with the power five. I think there are great coaches in the MAC that can pull it off.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Aug 8, 2020 18:14:07 GMT -5
the Horizon hasn't canceled yet.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 8, 2020 19:47:19 GMT -5
How do you have half the volleyball conferences playing in Spring and say P5 in fall?
Postpone already, P5.
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Post by rambleratheart on Aug 8, 2020 19:55:32 GMT -5
This my working list of conferences that have postponed to spring and how it affects volleyball. I welcome updates, corrections, additions, whatever. I'm working on a story and have done quite a few interviews with an eye on posting Monday. If you're a coach in one of those leagues and have thoughts you'd like to contribute to the story, email me at lee@volleyballmag.com: America East -- 7 Atlantic 10 -- 10 Big West -- 9 Colonial -- 4 (4 out, 5 still planning on playing) Ivy -- 8 MAAC -- 10 MEAC -- 11 MAC -- 12 Northeast 10 Patriot -- 9 (could be 7 if Army, Navy actually play) SWAC -- 10 Small correction, NEC has 8 schools...
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