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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 19:33:14 GMT -5
I just happen to think the left’s agenda is more inclusive and caring for everyone. Perhaps more inclusive, but certainly not "caring for everyone". Maybe in the way Robin Hood cared for everyone, and maybe if giving the alcoholic a drink or a junkie heroin is caring.
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 19:58:07 GMT -5
I just happen to think the left’s agenda is more inclusive and caring for everyone. Perhaps more inclusive, but certainly not "caring for everyone". Maybe in the way Robin Hood cared for everyone, and maybe if giving the alcoholic a drink or a junkie heroin is caring. Nope. In my view, everyone means everyone. And if you're a neo-nazi or a white supremacist, then I'm sorry, but you need to get help.
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 8, 2020 20:33:40 GMT -5
Boof, I don’t understand how you can say that the left will only have it one way, when the right-wing is doing the exact same thing. I’m a liberal, but at least I can still see that it’s both sides who are in deadlock. I just happen to think the left’s agenda is more inclusive and caring for everyone. Especially in this time of crisis. You can say people will become dis-incentivized all you want, but a $1200 stimulus check ain’t gonna buy you a mansion in Malibu with an Olympic sized swimming pool. In fact, only the mega-rich have become dis-incentivized because they have so much money that money itself has become meaningless to them. Get real, boof. Trump is not presidential at all. Independents and moderate republicans see this, and the Dems just have to win back Mich and Penn to get to 268. That, and Biden leads in NE CD-2, which would make it 269-269. Georgia is looking like a swing state, and so do Arizona and Texas. Add in Florida who has the highest percentage of seniors, who, by the way, are the most vulnerable group to the coronavirus. The lefts agenda is more inclusive and caring of people. The left truely lives in a fantasy world if you believe that. Let’s defund and takes cops off the street and then let’s try and dismantle the nra in the middle of all this chaos. Yeah big help. So they incite violence try and get rid of those that are their to protect them and then want to get rid of ways individuals without cops can protect themselves. Real smart. You want to put a real wager on this that whoever is wrong on presidentional call leaves this site and have moderators sign off on this so it’s legit
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 20:48:33 GMT -5
Boof, I don’t understand how you can say that the left will only have it one way, when the right-wing is doing the exact same thing. I’m a liberal, but at least I can still see that it’s both sides who are in deadlock. I just happen to think the left’s agenda is more inclusive and caring for everyone. Especially in this time of crisis. You can say people will become dis-incentivized all you want, but a $1200 stimulus check ain’t gonna buy you a mansion in Malibu with an Olympic sized swimming pool. In fact, only the mega-rich have become dis-incentivized because they have so much money that money itself has become meaningless to them. Get real, boof. Trump is not presidential at all. Independents and moderate republicans see this, and the Dems just have to win back Mich and Penn to get to 268. That, and Biden leads in NE CD-2, which would make it 269-269. Georgia is looking like a swing state, and so do Arizona and Texas. Add in Florida who has the highest percentage of seniors, who, by the way, are the most vulnerable group to the coronavirus. The lefts agenda is more inclusive and caring of people. The left truely lives in a fantasy world if you believe that. Let’s defund and takes cops off the street and then let’s try and dismantle the nra in the middle of all this chaos. Yeah big help. So they incite violence try and get rid of those that are their to protect them and then want to get rid of ways individuals without cops can protect themselves. Real smart. You want to put a real wager on this that whoever is wrong on presidentional call leaves this site and have moderators sign off on this so it’s legit So sad. So, so sad. I’d comment, but you probably wouldn’t listen. I’d say something like, “Democrats and most people don’t want to get rid of the police,”. And you’d probably be like, “Yeah, they do,” and I’d be like, “No, they don’t.”
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 20:51:38 GMT -5
I’m really not much of gambler, and I certainly wouldn’t bet my VT account for some random bet you made just because your feathers got ruffled.
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 8, 2020 20:59:57 GMT -5
I’m really not much of gambler, and I certainly wouldn’t bet my VT account for some random bet you made just because your feathers got ruffled. No it’s because you know I’m right. I’m very sure of myself. Obviously u arnt or it be easy bet to take.
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 8, 2020 21:01:26 GMT -5
The lefts agenda is more inclusive and caring of people. The left truely lives in a fantasy world if you believe that. Let’s defund and takes cops off the street and then let’s try and dismantle the nra in the middle of all this chaos. Yeah big help. So they incite violence try and get rid of those that are their to protect them and then want to get rid of ways individuals without cops can protect themselves. Real smart. You want to put a real wager on this that whoever is wrong on presidentional call leaves this site and have moderators sign off on this so it’s legit So sad. So, so sad. I’d comment, but you probably wouldn’t listen. I’d say something like, “Democrats and most people don’t want to get rid of the police,”. And you’d probably be like, “Yeah, they do,” and I’d be like, “No, they don’t.” No I’d agree that a lot don’t actually and African Americans don’t in large percentage either and it’s why Biden has backtracked on that now. But these democratic leaders running these cities made very bad decisions. But no one on left wants to admit it. They want to place blame other places or try and ignore it. My problem is with their leadership and lack of accountability for anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 21:01:55 GMT -5
What Yes, everyone means everyone. I don't believe the Democratic party is interested in policies that help everyone. Where in the world did neo-nazi or white supremacist comment come from?
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 21:08:54 GMT -5
I’m really not much of gambler, and I certainly wouldn’t bet my VT account for some random bet you made just because your feathers got ruffled. No it’s because you know I’m right. I’m very sure of myself. Obviously u arnt or it be easy bet to take. That’s not true. I just don’t claim to know what the future holds. Would you feel differently if we went by popular vote?
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 8, 2020 21:09:12 GMT -5
Do I need to mention the attack of Pelosi on Judy woodruff for apparently asking a question she apparently didn’t like and inferring she was working with Republican Party. Btw she is liberal. The leaders of the left are crazy. It be better for them to get control of their own house before critiquing others.
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 8, 2020 21:09:53 GMT -5
No it’s because you know I’m right. I’m very sure of myself. Obviously u arnt or it be easy bet to take. That’s not true. I just don’t claim to know what the future holds. Would you feel differently if we went by popular vote? No because we prob have same view on that. That’s not how elections are won and there’s very good reasons why. 3 states would matter. That’s it. It why democrats want to get rid of electoral college
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 21:16:01 GMT -5
What Yes, everyone means everyone. I don't believe the Democratic party is interested in policies that help everyone. Where in the world did neo-nazi or white supremacist comment come from? Don’t act like that came from nowhere. You questioned whether the left really cares for everyone, so I thought to myself, “Who doesn’t the left care about?” Well, the answer is the neo-nazis and the white supremacists. These people need serious help, and that’s something the right will not own up to.
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 21:19:11 GMT -5
That’s not true. I just don’t claim to know what the future holds. Would you feel differently if we went by popular vote? No because we prob have same view on that. That’s not how elections are won and there’s very good reasons why. 3 states would matter. That’s it. It why democrats want to get rid of electoral college And Republicans want to keep the electoral college because they can keep winning elections by getting less votes? Good luck finding the center on that one. 👍
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 8, 2020 21:28:25 GMT -5
No because we prob have same view on that. That’s not how elections are won and there’s very good reasons why. 3 states would matter. That’s it. It why democrats want to get rid of electoral college And Republicans want to keep the electoral college because they can keep winning elections by getting less votes? Good luck finding the center on that one. 👍 Win a few more middle America states. Republicans would literally have to win almost every state in country if you went no electoral college while Dems would have to win 2 or 3 and rest of country doesn’t matter. Again the left trying to take the easy no work way out. I really wish we could both live the ways we see things separately and see how things work out. I have a feeling in end you won’t like they way things turn out. The right already has to win most the states to win election. It’s not the same thing.
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Post by vup on Aug 8, 2020 21:33:15 GMT -5
And Republicans want to keep the electoral college because they can keep winning elections by getting less votes? Good luck finding the center on that one. 👍 Win a few more middle America states. Republicans would literally have to win almost every state in country if you went no electoral college while Dems would have to win 2 or 3 and rest of country doesn’t matter. Again the left trying to take the easy no work way out I'm not saying that we should go strictly by popular vote, but a format where electoral votes are split by congressional district (like in Nebraska and Maine), would be more reasonable than a winner-take-all system when Hillary Clinton lost Michigan by less than .25%.
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