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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 13:31:29 GMT -5
I don't know that it will help out Steve Bannon, but Colorado is an anti-abortion success story, and it has nothing to do with courts or legislation. With a two-pronged approach that included providing easier access to better birth control and sex education that did not emphasize abstinence, abortions in the state declined substantially over the past decade. My favorite part about their approach is that they "recogize that a person’s reproductive health is more than just access to contraceptives... It’s also about prenatal care, healthy delivery, and child support for the women to have a baby." Worth noting, that US ranks below every other OECD country in prenatal care, and, as a result, has pretty terrible maternal mortality rates (ranked 33 out of 36 for OECD). www.yesmagazine.org/social-justice/2019/06/05/abortion-teen-pregnancy-decline-colorado/
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Post by donut on Aug 21, 2020 13:31:33 GMT -5
Holiday acts like spouting his "killing babies" argument means he's taking the moral high ground. Until Evangelical conservatives start caring about babies outside the womb (especially poor and non-white ones), it just paints them as hypocrites. That is stupid ad it gets. Evangelical conservatives run all the shelters here in Southern California to help unwed and homeless mothers. Look up Hope Gardens in San Fernando. It was started by a group of Christians that are good friends of mine. This is as* stupid as* it gets. Where is the Evangelical opposition to forced family separation of asylum-seeking immigrants? Where was Evangelical demand for the families devastated by Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico? Where is the concern for the embarrassing (highest in the industrialized world) increasing rate of maternal mortality in the U.S. (which is even worse for POC)? Where is the push to expand SNAP and Medicaid which benefits low-income children? Where is the push for paid family leave that would benefit new parents and their babies? Where was the support for the contraception mandate in the ACA, which does far more to curb abortion than whining about Roe v. Wade? Where is the opposition to repealing the ACA, which mandates maternity care as an essential health benefit, and if repealed, would certainly increase the cost of a pregnancy? I can easily go on. Calling the movement "pro-life" is a joke. It has never been about the "babies." It has always been rooted in sexism, racism and classism. Your anecdotal story is nice. But it's just that: an anecdote.
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 21, 2020 13:35:16 GMT -5
That is stupid ad it gets. Evangelical conservatives run all the shelters here in Southern California to help unwed and homeless mothers. Look up Hope Gardens in San Fernando. It was started by a group of Christians that are good friends of mine. This is as* stupid as* it gets. Where is the Evangelical opposition to forced family separation of asylum-seeking immigrants? Where was Evangelical demand for the families devastated by Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico? Where is the concern for the embarrassing (highest in the industrialized world) increasing rate of maternal mortality in the U.S. (which is even worse for POC)? Where is the push to expand SNAP and Medicaid which benefits low-income children? Where is the push for paid family leave that would benefit new parents and their babies? Where was the support for the contraception mandate in the ACA, which does far more to curb abortion than whining about Roe v. Wade? Where is the opposition to repealing the ACA, which mandates maternity care as an essential health benefit, and if repealed, would certainly increase the cost of a pregnancy? I can easily go on. Calling the movement "pro-life" is a joke. It has never been about the "babies." It has always been rooted in sexism, racism and classism. Your anecdotal story is nice. But it's just that: an anecdote. Someone has escaped the Asylum.
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Post by donut on Aug 21, 2020 13:36:40 GMT -5
That is stupid ad it gets. Evangelical conservatives run all the shelters here in Southern California to help unwed and homeless mothers. Look up Hope Gardens in San Fernando. It was started by a group of Christians that are good friends of mine. we also pay for motel rooms when families don’t have money. We also pay for meals. We ran most of the food pantries. Ironic, I rarely see a democratic organization helping anyone unless they can get a vote. Then all the sudden they have several television cameras there to capture the moment. Leave it to HH (and apparently this fullbright character) to rely on single stories ("well, my dad's brother's chiropractor's second-cousin is an Evangelical who runs a food pantry, so Evangelicals care about the poor!!!" or "here (in rural Nebraska) Evangelicals run the food pantries so democrats don't help anyone unless it's for a vote!!!") to make sweeping points about both parties across the United States. Brilliant logical thinking skills.
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 21, 2020 13:43:23 GMT -5
we also pay for motel rooms when families don’t have money. We also pay for meals. We ran most of the food pantries. Ironic, I rarely see a democratic organization helping anyone unless they can get a vote. Then all the sudden they have several television cameras there to capture the moment. Leave it to HH (and apparently this fullbright character) to rely on single stories ("well, my dad's brother's chiropractor's second-cousin is an Evangelical who runs a food pantry, so Evangelicals care about the poor!!!" or "here (in rural Nebraska) Evangelicals run the food pantries so democrats don't help anyone unless it's for a vote!!!") to make sweeping points about both parties across the United States. Brilliant logical thinking skills. I can only judge from what I see. The diaper depot, food pantries, generous contributions, and charities, are all ran by our churches in our community. And every other communities surrounding this area, 99% of the charitable things are done by CHURCHES. It’s just the truth. Most evangelicals support President Trump. If you can’t deal with the truth that’s your problem.
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Post by akbar on Aug 21, 2020 16:50:20 GMT -5
Bannon's attorney is currently asking Steve
"Do you have ANY valuable information that we can trade?"
Trump: Calling his lawyers: "I'm concerned"
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 21, 2020 17:44:42 GMT -5
So just for the record, you were telling outright lies AGAIN when you tried to pretend like this wasn't the Gofundme you donated to. (Or maybe you were lying about having donated in the first place, who knows with you?) . Have you taken pictures of the children’s Hospital lately? Anything creepy like that? What a way to remind everyone of how you tried to lie to the board about what was happening in my own damn neighborhood. You have no integrity. Is that why you lash out so much? The shame of being such a dishonest person?
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Post by dc on Aug 21, 2020 18:13:10 GMT -5
Leave it to HH (and apparently this fullbright character) to rely on single stories ("well, my dad's brother's chiropractor's second-cousin is an Evangelical who runs a food pantry, so Evangelicals care about the poor!!!" or "here (in rural Nebraska) Evangelicals run the food pantries so democrats don't help anyone unless it's for a vote!!!") to make sweeping points about both parties across the United States. Brilliant logical thinking skills. I can only judge from what I see. The diaper depot, food pantries, generous contributions, and charities, are all ran by our churches in our community. And every other communities surrounding this area, 99% of the charitable things are done by CHURCHES. It’s just the truth. Most evangelicals support President Trump. If you can’t deal with the truth that’s your problem. Can't deal with the truth? What in God's name are you talking about? Yes, the truth is most evangelicals support Trump. It makes a mockery of any ethics they claim to have. And it makes a mockery of evangelical Christianity. edit: makes a mockery of white evangelical Christianity.
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 21, 2020 18:29:57 GMT -5
I can only judge from what I see. The diaper depot, food pantries, generous contributions, and charities, are all ran by our churches in our community. And every other communities surrounding this area, 99% of the charitable things are done by CHURCHES. It’s just the truth. Most evangelicals support President Trump. If you can’t deal with the truth that’s your problem. Can't deal with the truth? What in God's name are you talking about? Yes, the truth is most evangelicals support Trump. It makes a mockery of any ethics they claim to have. And it makes a mockery of evangelical Christianity. edit: makes a mockery of white evangelical Christianity. good god..you need to pay attention to what is being debated...our argument is that Evangelicals are very charitable and do most of the generosity when it comes to the poor...especially churches. Are you all there?
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 21, 2020 18:32:14 GMT -5
. Have you taken pictures of the children’s Hospital lately? Anything creepy like that? What a way to remind everyone of how you tried to lie to the board about what was happening in my own damn neighborhood. You have no integrity. Is that why you lash out so much? The shame of being such a dishonest person? As shameful as I might be, I would never skult around a neighborhood taking pictures of the hospital that someone elses niece is at when they have a sick child. That was just bizarre.
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 21, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -5
Bannon's attorney is currently asking Steve "Do you have ANY valuable information that we can trade?" Trump: Calling his lawyers: "I'm concerned" what kind of reputable lawyer would do that...oh thats right...a lawyer that is a democrat. How silly of me.
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Post by akbar on Aug 21, 2020 18:46:36 GMT -5
What a way to remind everyone of how you tried to lie to the board about what was happening in my own damn neighborhood. You have no integrity. Is that why you lash out so much? The shame of being such a dishonest person? As shameful as I might be, I would never skult around a neighborhood taking pictures of the hospital that someone elses niece is at when they have a sick child. That was just bizarre. skulk /skəlk/ Learn to pronounce verb keep out of sight, typically with a sinister or cowardly motive. "don't skulk outside the door like a spy!" Interesting tidbit. I first learned this word reading Oliver Twist. I could figure out what it meant but wanted to make sure so I looked it up. It's a great descriptive word. Imo
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Post by donut on Aug 21, 2020 18:52:14 GMT -5
Can't deal with the truth? What in God's name are you talking about? Yes, the truth is most evangelicals support Trump. It makes a mockery of any ethics they claim to have. And it makes a mockery of evangelical Christianity. edit: makes a mockery of white evangelical Christianity. good god..you need to pay attention to what is being debated...our argument is that Evangelicals are very charitable and do most of the generosity when it comes to the poor...especially churches. Are you all there? Lol that wasn't "our" argument. And you aren't really "debating" anything – that's giving you far too much credit. Me: Evangelical "pro-lifers" are hypocritical for multiple reasons You: But the food banks in my area are run by churches! Me: Your biased anecdotal evidence sucks dc hit the nail right on the head.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 21, 2020 19:14:13 GMT -5
What a way to remind everyone of how you tried to lie to the board about what was happening in my own damn neighborhood. You have no integrity. Is that why you lash out so much? The shame of being such a dishonest person? As shameful as I might be, I would never skult around a neighborhood taking pictures of the hospital that someone elses niece is at when they have a sick child. That was just bizarre. I took a couple-block detour on a daily walk to prove that you were full of %*$#. Which you are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 19:16:32 GMT -5
Plus it's hard to skulk while walking a dog. In my experience anyhow.
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