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Post by oldnewbie on Sept 17, 2020 16:51:00 GMT -5
The stated goal is to pay for most (but not all) rounds of all NCAA tourneys so that teams are not discouraged from participating. Do you know what REALLY discourages a team from participating? Not getting an invitation. It's an odd year. They could localize the pods even more. Having 1 additional match the first night and 4 teams instead of 3 is surely not insurmountable. They could also ask the last 16 at large teams (or all 32 at large teams) if they are willing to pay some of the travel costs just for this strange year. They could ask teams to pay their own way. But they won’t. Basically that’s all the NCAA spends money on. Running tournaments and paying staff. I don’t think having a pay-your-own way tournament would ever be on the table. I didn't think a spring championship would ever be on the table either, but here we are.
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Post by huskernmn on Sept 17, 2020 20:04:25 GMT -5
With only 2 weeks to play, my guess if the first weekend is 8 regionals of 6 teams, top 2 seeds get first round byes. The winners of the 8 regional all advance to championship weekend with an Elite Eight to determine champion.
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Post by n00b on Sept 17, 2020 20:10:42 GMT -5
With only 2 weeks to play, my guess if the first weekend is 8 regionals of 6 teams, top 2 seeds get first round byes. The winners of the 8 regional all advance to championship weekend with an Elite Eight to determine champion. The original release must’ve been a typo. It now says selections on April 4th. So 3 weekends for the tournament.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Sept 17, 2020 20:51:08 GMT -5
When the tournament had 48 squads (1993-6), the top four seeds in each region received byes. Eight lesser teams competed in four matches; the winners met said top 4. Took three weeks total.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 17, 2020 23:24:36 GMT -5
They could ask teams to pay their own way. But they won’t. Basically that’s all the NCAA spends money on. Running tournaments and paying staff. I don’t think having a pay-your-own way tournament would ever be on the table. I didn't think a spring championship would ever be on the table either, but here we are. So when will official practices start? I hope the conferences that postponed their fall season will get on board with this Spring season schedule. It will be so awesome to have NCAA Womens Volleyball again. I mean the teams not currently playing.
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Post by n00b on Sept 17, 2020 23:29:08 GMT -5
I didn't think a spring championship would ever be on the table either, but here we are. So when will official practices start? I hope the conferences that postponed their fall season will get on board with this Spring season schedule. It will be so awesome to have NCAA Womens Volleyball again. I mean the teams not currently playing. Essentially they can start whenever the school decides to start. The only restriction listed was to "Require a break prior to the start of the spring championship segment." which seems intentionally vague.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Sept 17, 2020 23:44:53 GMT -5
I didn't think a spring championship would ever be on the table either, but here we are. So when will official practices start? I hope the conferences that postponed their fall season will get on board with this Spring season schedule. It will be so awesome to have NCAA Womens Volleyball again. I mean the teams not currently playing. Yeah, as n00b correctly stated official practice is happening now: "unofficially". In other words, teams can do pretty much whatever they want, whenever they want (within pre-regulated, overview guidelines established by NCAA). I just saw, on Stanford Twitter, their players practicing on the SU tennis courts. Deuce!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 23:58:41 GMT -5
So when will official practices start? I hope the conferences that postponed their fall season will get on board with this Spring season schedule. It will be so awesome to have NCAA Womens Volleyball again. I mean the teams not currently playing. Essentially they can start whenever the school decides to start. The only restriction listed was to "Require a break prior to the start of the spring championship segment." which seems intentionally vague. Unofficially, it'll be December.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 18, 2020 18:35:48 GMT -5
"The finals site of the championship is scheduled for April 23-25, with a 48-team bracket. Thirty-two of the teams will be automatic qualifiers, with 16 at-large selections. The normal bracket size for the championship is 64 teams. Regular-season play will span from Jan. 22-April 10, with selections April 11" The finals will be on April 25? That is a Sunday. What happens if BYU makes it to the championship game? I don't see the issue. If they don't want to play, they can forfeit.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 18, 2020 18:41:11 GMT -5
Since the NCAA is going to sanction a tournament for the 2020-2021 academic year AND the athletes still keep their scholarship, are players who play NCAA sanctioned matches in the spring still eligible to get an additional year of eligibility and have their scholarships not counted in the 2021-2022 academic year per the original plan? If so, this seems pretty ridiculous.
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Post by n00b on Sept 18, 2020 19:00:55 GMT -5
Since the NCAA is going to sanction a tournament for the 2020-2021 academic year AND the athletes still keep their scholarship, are players who play NCAA sanctioned matches in the spring still eligible to get an additional year of eligibility and have their scholarships not counted in the 2021-2022 academic year per the original plan? If so, this seems pretty ridiculous. Yes. The reality is that it’s still going to be a mess of a season. Outbreaks will cause 3-weeks of cancellations. Players would’ve opted out.
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Post by vbfan003 on Sept 19, 2020 1:25:54 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. Makes a lot of sense. Since volleyball is the only indoor fall sport (well water polo but who cares), they don't have to worry about weather and can both start and finish the earliest. Plus it allows some beach athletes to do both. Starting matches on 1/22 allows a 3-week preseason without requiring athletes be on campus before New Years. Some schools may be required to quarantine returning athletes after the holidays based on state and county mandates - and international student athletes are likely to face a 14 day quarantine.) Assuming these quarantines, is it accurate to say that some athletes may not be able to travel home out of state (or country) for Christmas if they want to be able to be cleared to train in that 3 week preseason before the Jan. 22 start?
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Post by gobruins on Sept 19, 2020 8:14:24 GMT -5
The finals will be on April 25? That is a Sunday. What happens if BYU makes it to the championship game? I don't see the issue. If they don't want to play, they can forfeit. I tend to agree with you, but in the real world, that is not how it works. The NCAA has always made accommodations for BYU's religious restrictions.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 21, 2020 0:06:13 GMT -5
I don't see the issue. If they don't want to play, they can forfeit. I tend to agree with you, but in the real world, that is not how it works. The NCAA has always made accommodations for BYU's religious restrictions. Well, they should reconsider such preferential treatment of religion.
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Post by gobruins on Sept 21, 2020 5:57:04 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you, but in the real world, that is not how it works. The NCAA has always made accommodations for BYU's religious restrictions. Well, they should reconsider such preferential treatment of religion. I won't be holding my breath. Feel free to hold yours, if you want to.
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