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Post by n00b on Sept 16, 2020 17:06:06 GMT -5
For what it's worth, basketball has proposed REQUIRING non-conference games so there can be legitimate tournament selections. I believe they are requiring four? I think this would be positive for volleyball as well.
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Post by n00b on Sept 16, 2020 17:12:36 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. Makes a lot of sense. Since volleyball is the only indoor fall sport (well water polo but who cares), they don't have to worry about weather and can both start and finish the earliest. Plus it allows some beach athletes to do both. Starting matches on 1/22 allows a 3-week preseason without requiring athletes be on campus before New Years.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 16, 2020 17:13:20 GMT -5
So, 22 matches? Will B1G just go for 20 and a tourney? Or will they have a more complete 11 week schedule with 2 extra regular conference games? This will be interesting. Will things be much different on 1/22 as 9/24? I think they will be better, but probably nothing like 2019. Will they and other conferences go with regional conference scheduling only (ACC) or go with playing back to back home or road only matches against opponents (Big 12). Both reduce travel and costs - and I have to think both will be on the list for these spring schedules just like they are now for those playing in the fall. 32 autos will be easy. How they determine the 16 at large is going to be very sticky. I think it would be important to get out ahead of how those 16 will be determined - otherwise we may end up seeing some weird (and potentially unsafe) scheduling going on. If it was me - I would go with a conference allocation model. But that is usually the way the NCAA thinks.
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Post by n00b on Sept 16, 2020 17:15:49 GMT -5
32 autos will be easy. How they determine the 16 at large is going to be very sticky. I think it would be important to get out ahead of how those 16 will be determined - otherwise we may end up seeing some weird (and potentially unsafe) scheduling going on. If it was me - I would go with a conference allocation model. But that is usually the way the NCAA thinks. I've heard this is unlikely. Selections will be the done same as always, but with RPI being out the window, the eye test will be very important.
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Post by oldnewbie on Sept 16, 2020 17:28:22 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. Makes a lot of sense. Since volleyball is the only indoor fall sport (well water polo but who cares), they don't have to worry about weather and can both start and finish the earliest. Plus it allows some beach athletes to do both. Starting matches on 1/22 allows a 3-week preseason without requiring athletes be on campus before New Years. I was very explicit with my daughter that we did not support, in any way, her going to a school where volleyball shared gym time with water polo.
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Post by oldnewbie on Sept 16, 2020 17:34:56 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. What is the problem with sliding that back 4-6 weeks? Won't those dates conflict head to head with MBB and WBB for the first 2-1/2 months?
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Post by playaplease on Sept 16, 2020 17:47:45 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. If this is the case and they still have a championship, what is the point of granting an extra year of eligibility and making recruiting a financial conundrum for some schools? Or do you think because of this most teams will say adios to their seniors and recruit as normal? Just curious on your thoughts. Thanks
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Post by stevehorn on Sept 16, 2020 18:32:48 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. How are they going to handle the teams playing in the fall?
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Sept 16, 2020 18:54:43 GMT -5
"The finals site of the championship is scheduled for April 23-25, with a 48-team bracket. Thirty-two of the teams will be automatic qualifiers, with 16 at-large selections.
The normal bracket size for the championship is 64 teams.
Regular-season play will span from Jan. 22-April 10, with selections April 11"
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Sept 16, 2020 19:35:27 GMT -5
The final site? Where will it be? I hope Nebraska.
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Post by redcard on Sept 16, 2020 19:54:28 GMT -5
Just had a conversation with someone close to the decision making process at the council meeting today. The proposal for WVB involves an 11 week season that starts the weekend of 1/22 and finishes early April leading to a 48 team tournament that finishes the weekend of 4/23. It still has to be approved, but that at least gives the schools something to plan around. How are they going to handle the teams playing in the fall? No differently. The committee will consider Fall participants the same. I think what may be interesting is if the Spring participants will be conference only and if not will Fall participants be able to schedule non-con matches in Spring...? Not sure if the reduced weeks will allow for much beyond conference only. Could depend on conference size.
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Post by n00b on Sept 16, 2020 20:02:02 GMT -5
How are they going to handle the teams playing in the fall? No differently. The committee will consider Fall participants the same. I think what may be interesting is if the Spring participants will be conference only and if not will Fall participants be able to schedule non-con matches in Spring...? Not sure if the reduced weeks will allow for much beyond conference only. Could depend on conference size. That new calendar is only 2 weeks shorter than a typical volleyball season. No reason not to have 3 weeks of non-conference. Then you can mix in 2 midweeks and still play a 20-match conference schedule in the Big Ten and Pac-12.
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Sept 16, 2020 20:38:35 GMT -5
They also stated that teams are allowed to continue to schedule matches after the championship. Anyone know any reasoning or explanation behind that?
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Post by n00b on Sept 16, 2020 20:43:38 GMT -5
They also stated that teams are allowed to continue to schedule matches after the championship. Anyone know any reasoning or explanation behind that? I was trying to figure that out too. The only possible scenario I could come up with is that a conference (think Ivy League) doesn’t want to start until basketball season is over, so they get in the minimum number of matches to send a team to the NCAA tourney (10) then play out the rest of the season in mid to late April so the athletes can have closer to a full-ish schedule.
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Post by gobruins on Sept 17, 2020 8:31:44 GMT -5
"The finals site of the championship is scheduled for April 23-25, with a 48-team bracket. Thirty-two of the teams will be automatic qualifiers, with 16 at-large selections. The normal bracket size for the championship is 64 teams. Regular-season play will span from Jan. 22-April 10, with selections April 11" The finals will be on April 25? That is a Sunday. What happens if BYU makes it to the championship game?
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