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Post by donut on Oct 7, 2020 10:50:24 GMT -5
www.texastribune.org/2020/10/06/congress-abbott-mail-in-voting/www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/03/texas-mail-in-ballot-drop-off-sitesGovernor Abbott limited drop-off ballot locations to one per county in Texas. Harris County, for example, the state's most populous county, previous had 12 drop-off locations. To use a drop-off location, you had to bring I.D. and you could only drop-off your own ballot. Harris County is larger than the state of Rhode Island and has 4.7 million residents. From the Guardian, "Harris County spans 1,777 square miles and is larger than Rhode Island. Residents in and around suburbs like Cypress, Tomball and Humble must now travel almost an hour one-way with moderate traffic to reach the single drop-off site. Those living in rural areas like Waller or Hockley will have even farther to travel." Harris County Clerk: “To force hundreds of thousands of seniors and voters with disabilities here in Harris County, and millions of voters across the state of Texas to use a single drop-off facility in these massive counties is not only prejudicial, but it’s dangerous,” he said. In a state that already severely limits mail-in voting, how on Earth can you call this anything but blatant voter suppression?
Harris County as compared to Rhode Island, with drop-off locations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 10:52:01 GMT -5
The modern day GOP at its finest.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 7, 2020 11:24:30 GMT -5
What's truly repugnant is that people who claim all these steps are absolutely necessary to avert voter fraud, don't seem to give a %*$# about using voting machines that are proven to have been easily hackable and leave no paper trail. Though I guess they know who is hacking them so they don't care.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 7, 2020 11:30:39 GMT -5
There will a reckoning someday. There always is. Just ask George III about that. Or Louis XVI.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 11:34:42 GMT -5
Can't. Can't even ask IV and XVII.
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Post by BearClause on Oct 7, 2020 11:57:07 GMT -5
The Governor couldn't explain what the "fraud" problem was when these sites are manned by election workers who check ID an match it to the name on the return envelope.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 12:19:49 GMT -5
The best hope is that it kills off as many red votes as it does blue votes.
Could be true? Lot of older, traditionally red voters don't want to risk voting in person. And perhaps don't trust the USPS to get their ballots in on time (rightfully so...).
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 7, 2020 13:45:08 GMT -5
Obama won Harris county by 585 votes over Romney in 2012 out of 1.2M votes. 49.4% vs. 49.3%. Trump lost this county by 162K votes in 2016 (54-42%). Part of the rural/urban change taking place in this country.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 7, 2020 13:55:50 GMT -5
The largest counties in terms of size in Texas are more rural (and more pro Trump). In terms of having to travel farther - wouldn't this disadvantage Trump?
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Post by cindra on Oct 7, 2020 13:59:48 GMT -5
The largest counties in terms of size in Texas are more rural (and more pro Trump). In terms of having to travel farther - wouldn't this disadvantage Trump? The difference is that Harris is much more urban and therefore this affects a lot more people, who are less likely to be able to travel to vote, due to not having cars, covid concerns from density, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 14:02:57 GMT -5
Not if Trump voters aren't voting absentee. 25 is never going to equal 2,500 either.
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Post by donut on Oct 7, 2020 14:11:49 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 7, 2020 14:17:26 GMT -5
The largest counties in terms of size in Texas are more rural (and more pro Trump). In terms of having to travel farther - wouldn't this disadvantage Trump? Come on, do you really think Abbott would be doing this if he thought there was a chance in hell it would disadvantage Trump? Texas is sort of a reflection of the country as a whole right now. A few very populated and fairly "blue" major urban areas plus a lot of sparsely populated "red" areas. It makes absolutely no sense for there to be one voting box for a county of 152 people and one voting box for a county of 4,698,620 people. It's just clearly Abbott trying to suppress voting in Harris County (Houston). And not just for Trump's sake. There is a Senate seat and three seats on the State Supreme Court also on the ballot. The more Abbott can suppress votes from Houston, the more he can sway those votes toward conservative picks favored by the rural population.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 7, 2020 14:19:09 GMT -5
The largest counties in terms of size in Texas are more rural (and more pro Trump). In terms of having to travel farther - wouldn't this disadvantage Trump? Come on, do you really think Abbott would be doing this if he thought there was a chance in hell it would disadvantage Trump? Texas is sort of a reflection of the country as a whole right now. A few very populated and fairly "blue" major urban areas plus a lot of sparsely populated "red" areas. It makes absolutely no sense for there to be one voting box for a county of 152 people and one voting box for a county of 4,698,620 people. It's just clearly Abbott trying to suppress voting in Harris County (Houston). And not just for Trump's sake. There is a Senate seat and three seats on the State Supreme Court also on the ballot. The more Abbott can suppress votes from Houston, the more he can sway those votes toward conservative picks favored by the rural population. As I understand it, this is more about Texas state elections than helping Trump/Cornyn.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 7, 2020 14:42:06 GMT -5
I am just saying. If Texas was a 50/50 state - the distanced traveled for the average Trump voter would be farther than the average Biden voter. Only 27 of the 254 Texas Counties voted for Clinton over Trump. Those many smallish counties add up.
Now this could be more about Trump voters are less likely to mail? But then Trump voters are more likely to be older and also lower income - so this works against him if we think the poor is at a disadvantage here?
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