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Post by BearClause on Jan 11, 2021 2:01:21 GMT -5
Someone indicates that he used the pool service that she ran for years, even after her family bought it three years ago. But then she took a phone call as an opportunity to rant about politics, at which point the customer canned them.
Yep. This is the kind of person who I think might just jump headfirst into a window with a gun pointed at her.
The company's Yelp page has been trashed, but that's to be expected. However, one of the earlier reviews says the following:
There's one response from an "Ashli M." which I think is her previous name before she got married.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 11, 2021 7:36:30 GMT -5
Keep up the propaganda machine bear. Isn’t that the goal? To shame anyone who didn’t think like you. Sounds like Germany.
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Post by Mocha on Jan 23, 2021 16:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by BearClause on Jan 23, 2021 16:53:00 GMT -5
Yeah - that's the thing I don't get. Her job in the US Air Force and Air National Guard was base security. She would have known what it meant to have someone/something of high value being protected and that justified actions could go up to the use of lethal force.
These were members of Congress being protected in the House Chambers. They had barricaded the door and had their guns drawn. Exactly what did she think would happen? If she was at her previous job protecting a high value asset, she absolutely understood that shooting at an intruder would be justified. If someone does that to a home (with someone trying to break down windows/doors), firing at the intruder is justified. Claiming that she was unarmed and just "voicing her opinion" is just an insane justification for what she did. They had no idea if she had weapons in that big pack, or even worse perhaps an explosive device.
I mentioned it elsewhere, but imagine if Mike Pence were in there and it's Secret Service. They would have no qualms about shooting. Not just a single shot but anyone at the door trying to break it down.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 12:25:47 GMT -5
Not sure why in the Daily Mail, but this article tries to detail more of what happened. They get a few details wrong, such as a claim of 31 rounds in the officer's gun. The NY Times article says he had 31 rounds on him, which is consistent with 2 15 round magazines and one already in his weapon (a Glock 22). www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9183085/Capitol-Lieutenants-account-shooting-MAGA-rioter-Ashli-Babbitt-dead.htmlTheir interpretation is that the three uniformed officers standing guard at the door left because they were informed that a tactical team would relieve them. Once they left, the crowd started trying to break down the door/windows. Not sure why they didn't wait for the tactical officers to get to the door before leaving. And officer who fired the single shot said that he wasn't aware that any officers were on the other side guarding the door.
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Post by moody on Jan 25, 2021 12:58:54 GMT -5
Keep up the propaganda machine bear. Isn’t that the goal? To shame anyone who didn’t think like you. Sounds like Germany. She was climbing through a window during a violent insurrection. That's how a person gets shot!
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 25, 2021 15:02:32 GMT -5
Keep up the propaganda machine bear. Isn’t that the goal? To shame anyone who didn’t think like you. Sounds like Germany. She was climbing through a window during a violent insurrection. That's how a person gets shot! Not harming anyone. But yet the cop who’s car was attacked in Tacoma, is an attempted murderer for trying to get the hell out of there. That’s a Democrats mentality for you. We have different rules for different people folks.
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Post by moody on Jan 25, 2021 16:16:21 GMT -5
She was climbing through a window during a violent insurrection. That's how a person gets shot! Not harming anyone. But yet the cop who’s car was attacked in Tacoma, is an attempted murderer for trying to get the hell out of there. That’s a Democrats mentality for you. We have different rules for different people folks. Not harming anyone??? She was climbing through a broken window during a violent insurrection who was part of a crowd trying to breach a door with ONE police officer on the other side!!! That's what makes you an effing moron, hoolie/df/troll. This is why you can't have any sort of conversation. You simply ignore reality. Watch the video.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 16:56:18 GMT -5
Not harming anyone. But yet the cop who’s car was attacked in Tacoma, is an attempted murderer for trying to get the hell out of there. That’s a Democrats mentality for you. We have different rules for different people folks. Not harming anyone??? She was climbing through a broken window during a violent insurrection who was part of a crowd trying to breach a door with ONE police officer on the other side!!! That's what makes you an effing moron, hoolie/df/troll. This is why you can't have any sort of conversation. You simply ignore reality. Watch the video. Sure. Let's do a little comparison. - Crowd in Capitol Building armed with flag poles and helmets are clearly bashing in windows and trying to break down a barricaded door.
- Woman tries to climb through a caved in window with a large pack on her back. Do they know what's in the pack (i.e. weapons and/or explosives)?
- Officer fires a single shot at the person coming through the window and then assesses the situation.
--vs-- - Large crowd blocking the front and sides of a patrol vehicle, but not behind.
- The crowd slaps against the body and maybe windows, but no broken glass or dents.
- Officer guns the engine and runs over a dozen people including one person 30 feet away with both right-side tires.
You know Holiday would be saying it was a justified shooting if a crowd did the same at a store or someone's home. But of course it's a matter of them not likely being Trump supporters. I have seen the occasional Trump supporter say that they felt is was justified (and stupid that she couldn't figure out that she was committing suicide by cop). When she was in the Air Force, she would have been the one with a gun authorized to shoot people trying to break in and gain access to restricted areas.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 25, 2021 20:16:04 GMT -5
Not harming anyone. But yet the cop who’s car was attacked in Tacoma, is an attempted murderer for trying to get the hell out of there. That’s a Democrats mentality for you. We have different rules for different people folks. Not harming anyone??? She was climbing through a broken window during a violent insurrection who was part of a crowd trying to breach a door with ONE police officer on the other side!!! That's what makes you an effing moron, hoolie/df/troll. This is why you can't have any sort of conversation. You simply ignore reality. Watch the video. and yet dozens of people beating on a police car with no end in site is Ok? You people are nuts.
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Post by moody on Jan 25, 2021 20:26:47 GMT -5
Not harming anyone??? She was climbing through a broken window during a violent insurrection who was part of a crowd trying to breach a door with ONE police officer on the other side!!! That's what makes you an effing moron, hoolie/df/troll. This is why you can't have any sort of conversation. You simply ignore reality. Watch the video. and yet dozens of people beating on a police car with no end in site is Ok? You people are nuts. and this is where you and your argument are so absolutely idiotic. Again your comparisons are as apples to oranges as they can be. Both are on video and yet you demand we believe you and not our "lying" eyes. That's why you should just shut up shut up shut up shut up, hoolie/df/troll.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 20:30:42 GMT -5
Not harming anyone??? She was climbing through a broken window during a violent insurrection who was part of a crowd trying to breach a door with ONE police officer on the other side!!! That's what makes you an effing moron, hoolie/df/troll. This is why you can't have any sort of conversation. You simply ignore reality. Watch the video. and yet dozens of people beating on a police car with no end in site is Ok? You people are nuts. 7 seconds of hands slapping on the body of the car vs flagpoles and helmets causing actual damage including one completely caved in window. This is your comparison? If someone tried to break into your house, would you just let them do it because you think they're harmless - even after breaking in your windows. You're pathetic.
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Post by moody on Jan 25, 2021 20:32:15 GMT -5
and yet dozens of people beating on a police car with no end in site is Ok? You people are nuts. 7 seconds of hands slapping on the body of the car vs flagpoles and helmets causing actual damage including one completely caved in window. This is your comparison? If someone tried to break into your house, would you just let them do it because you think they're harmless - even after breaking in your windows. You're pathetic. What hoolie/df/troll is trying to compare is an army of people breaking down your door vs the neighbor letting his dog crap in your yard.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 25, 2021 20:50:17 GMT -5
and yet dozens of people beating on a police car with no end in site is Ok? You people are nuts. 7 seconds of hands slapping on the body of the car vs flagpoles and helmets causing actual damage including one completely caved in window. This is your comparison? If someone tried to break into your house, would you just let them do it because you think they're harmless - even after breaking in your windows. You're pathetic. Do you listen to yourself? I mean really listen? You have no idea what would’ve happened if the cop would’ve sat there for a few minutes longer. I mean, you’re the one that posted the videos. You could hear the abusive language and angriness of the crowd? And you’re worried about a woman crawling through a window at the capital that was shot? You people have serious problems. I knew the short sympathy for the capital police was not going to last long and your true colors would come out. You guys are an absolute mess.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 21:20:18 GMT -5
7 seconds of hands slapping on the body of the car vs flagpoles and helmets causing actual damage including one completely caved in window. This is your comparison? If someone tried to break into your house, would you just let them do it because you think they're harmless - even after breaking in your windows. You're pathetic. Do you listen to yourself? I mean really listen? You have no idea what would’ve happened if the cop would’ve sat there for a few minutes longer. I mean, you’re the one that posted the videos. You could hear the abusive language and angriness of the crowd? And you’re worried about a woman crawling through a window at the capital that was shot? You people have serious problems. I knew the short sympathy for the capital police was not going to last long and your true colors would come out. You guys are an absolute mess. I listened. It was a bunch of yahoos making a lot of noise. They weren't breaking in his windows. They were slapping the body and windows with open hands. He didn't even make any announcement or warning. Running over people indiscriminately was not an appropriate response. The police vehicle behind him certainly didn't get swarmed. You seem to think that police have free rein to use lethal force unless it's against a Trump supporter. I have no doubt that they were intentionally obstructing the vehicle. But in no way did I view any case where running over someone down the street was an appropriate action. He's going lose his job over this, and rightly so.
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