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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 14, 2021 17:02:03 GMT -5
I believe the NEA's position on school choice and charter schools does great harm to minorities in this country. I hope you understand the difference between your belief and objective fact. I happen to think it is a truly bizarre twisting of reality to claim that PUBLIC SCHOOLS harm minority kids. How many minority kids got educations before we had public schools? Why was it such a major civil rights battle to allow minority kids to attend the same public schools that white kids attended? IMO, you have latched onto this claim as a rationalization for your obviously intense desire to have public money pay for private education. (Almost certainly private Christian-based education, based on your other posts.) Mix in your dislike of unions (even though unions are perfectly compatible with libertarianism -- why should employees not be able to band together to increase their market buying power?), and you have a strong motivation to find some justification that you think places you on the moral high ground for opposing public schools. But that's just my opinion. I do understand it's not necessarily an objective fact.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jan 15, 2021 8:06:22 GMT -5
I believe the NEA's position on school choice and charter schools does great harm to minorities in this country. I hope you understand the difference between your belief and objective fact. I happen to think it is a truly bizarre twisting of reality to claim that PUBLIC SCHOOLS harm minority kids. How many minority kids got educations before we had public schools? Why was it such a major civil rights battle to allow minority kids to attend the same public schools that white kids attended? IMO, you have latched onto this claim as a rationalization for your obviously intense desire to have public money pay for private education. (Almost certainly private Christian-based education, based on your other posts.) Mix in your dislike of unions (even though unions are perfectly compatible with libertarianism -- why should employees not be able to band together to increase their market buying power?), and you have a strong motivation to find some justification that you think places you on the moral high ground for opposing public schools. But that's just my opinion. I do understand it's not necessarily an objective fact. Sure - I am not mentioning this here to argue the merits of public schools role in minority education, but to illustrate how belief (instead of object fact) is often used as a basis for determining racism. For instance one says "if you oppose policy X, then you are a racist."
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Post by moody on Jan 15, 2021 8:18:20 GMT -5
I hope you understand the difference between your belief and objective fact. I happen to think it is a truly bizarre twisting of reality to claim that PUBLIC SCHOOLS harm minority kids. How many minority kids got educations before we had public schools? Why was it such a major civil rights battle to allow minority kids to attend the same public schools that white kids attended? IMO, you have latched onto this claim as a rationalization for your obviously intense desire to have public money pay for private education. (Almost certainly private Christian-based education, based on your other posts.) Mix in your dislike of unions (even though unions are perfectly compatible with libertarianism -- why should employees not be able to band together to increase their market buying power?), and you have a strong motivation to find some justification that you think places you on the moral high ground for opposing public schools. But that's just my opinion. I do understand it's not necessarily an objective fact. Sure - I am not mentioning this here to argue the merits of public schools role in minority education, but to illustrate how belief (instead of object fact) is often used as a basis for determining racism. For instance one says "if you oppose policy X, then you are a racist." Does opposing the 13 Amendment make you a racist?
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Post by bluepenquin on Jan 15, 2021 8:46:21 GMT -5
Sure - I am not mentioning this here to argue the merits of public schools role in minority education, but to illustrate how belief (instead of object fact) is often used as a basis for determining racism. For instance one says "if you oppose policy X, then you are a racist." Does opposing the 13 Amendment make you a racist? Yes, of course. Although some whacko could believe in slavery that doesn't involve race.
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Post by moody on Jan 15, 2021 9:42:22 GMT -5
Does opposing the 13 Amendment make you a racist? Yes, of course. Although some whacko could believe in slavery that doesn't involve race. But why? I am just opposing a policy. How would that make me racist?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 15, 2021 9:50:24 GMT -5
Yes, of course. Although some whacko could believe in slavery that doesn't involve race. But why? I am just opposing a policy. How would that make me racist? Your opposed to the policy of abolishing slavery?
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Post by moody on Jan 15, 2021 9:53:48 GMT -5
But why? I am just opposing a policy. How would that make me racist? Your opposed to the policy of abolishing slavery? Making a point. Try to keep up there moron/hoolie/df/troll.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 15, 2021 9:56:49 GMT -5
Your opposed to the policy of abolishing slavery? Making a point. Try to keep up there moron/hoolie/df/troll. It’s no wonder blue is not agreeing with you. Not much of a point you’re making.
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Post by moody on Jan 15, 2021 10:02:06 GMT -5
Making a point. Try to keep up there moron/hoolie/df/troll. It’s no wonder blue is not agreeing with you. Not much of a point you’re making. Sorry, too many big words for you, moron/hoolie/df/troll.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 15, 2021 10:11:07 GMT -5
It’s no wonder blue is not agreeing with you. Not much of a point you’re making. Sorry, too many big words for you, moron/hoolie/df/troll. I’m sorry you’re not making any sense but there you go
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Post by moody on Jan 15, 2021 10:13:49 GMT -5
Sorry, too many big words for you, moron/hoolie/df/troll. I’m sorry you’re not making any sense but there you go Do you believe Biden was fairly elected?
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Post by moody on Jan 15, 2021 10:14:14 GMT -5
Trump's approval rating is now reported to be at 29%
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 15, 2021 11:02:38 GMT -5
Trump's approval rating is now reported to be at 29% Who did the poll? CNN?
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Post by bluepenquin on Jan 15, 2021 11:11:14 GMT -5
Yes, of course. Although some whacko could believe in slavery that doesn't involve race. But why? I am just opposing a policy. How would that make me racist? I didn't claim that any policy position cannot be racist, I was just stating that too often people want to attach racism on policy differences when I don't think racism is involved. I find people carrying the Confederate flag during the riot on the capital to be racist. I cannot think of a logical reason to bring the Confederate flag other than the person most likely being a racist. I also think that *some* people support some policy positions for racial (racist) reasons. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the policy is racist.
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Post by akbar on Jan 15, 2021 12:00:56 GMT -5
My God the level of incompetance is astounding from the Trump Administration.
When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced this week that the federal government would begin releasing coronavirus vaccine doses held in reserve for second shots, no such reserve existed, according to state and federal officials briefed on distribution plans. The Trump administration had already begun shipping out what was available beginning at the end of December, taking second doses directly off the manufacturing line.
Now, health officials across the country who had anticipated their extremely limited vaccine supply as much as doubling beginning next week are confronting the reality that their allocations will not immediately increase, dashing hopes of dramatically expanding eligibility for millions of elderly people and those with high-risk medical conditions. Health officials in some cities and states were informed in recent days about the reality of the situation, while others are still in the dark.
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