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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 17, 2021 1:58:14 GMT -5
Heard a rumor that nothing till '22 . . . Hard to believe with the Olympics in the fold, but "dats what I heard" . . . :-(
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Post by butteryhands on Jan 17, 2021 12:08:52 GMT -5
I did hear that Kolinske/Evans is still a team.
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Post by ajm on Jan 17, 2021 12:48:14 GMT -5
Heard a rumor that nothing till '22 . . . Hard to believe with the Olympics in the fold, but "dats what I heard" . . . :-( If all these non-Tokyo hopefuls are choosing partners and training already, I would take that as a sign that they expect something to happen domestically. Also the AVP seems to be active on social media and posting new content to their website, something you wouldn’t expect if they were planning to shut things down for a year. Although maybe seeing guys like Stafford and Billy moving out of the area is a hint that they’re not counting on much.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 17, 2021 13:34:01 GMT -5
Heard a rumor that nothing till '22 . . . Hard to believe with the Olympics in the fold, but "dats what I heard" . . . :-( If all these non-Tokyo hopefuls are choosing partners and training already, I would take that as a sign that they expect something to happen domestically. I hear you! The Champions Cup Series in Long Beach seem to have been a success. I can't believe they can't rerun that in some form Also the AVP seems to be active on social media and posting new content to their website, something you wouldn’t expect if they were planning to shut things down for a year. Although maybe seeing guys like Stafford and Billy moving out of the area is a hint that they’re not counting on much.
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Post by stevieofmb on Jan 17, 2021 14:48:52 GMT -5
Heard a rumor that nothing till '22 . . . Hard to believe with the Olympics in the fold, but "dats what I heard" . . . :-( If all these non-Tokyo hopefuls are choosing partners and training already, I would take that as a sign that they expect something to happen domestically. Also the AVP seems to be active on social media and posting new content to their website, something you wouldn’t expect if they were planning to shut things down for a year. Although maybe seeing guys like Stafford and Billy moving out of the area is a hint that they’re not counting on much. My guess is that we may see another Long Beach type tournament in the late Spring/early Summer with the hope that more traditional tournaments will be able to take place later in the Summer.
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Post by tamz on Jan 17, 2021 20:38:41 GMT -5
Is Doha still happening? I’ve only heard it from VT. FIVB hasn’t posted any 2021 calendar yet.
On a side note, I see some of the women’s teams are back to work and training has restarted as if they were preparing for a season.
I imagine the only way international tournaments will resume is if they pick a spot and create a bubble and teams go there, quarantine and continue to be tested and play out the rest of the remaining tournaments for 4-6 weeks let’s say.
There’s no way teams can be traveling around the globe at this current situation.
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Post by beavis on Jan 17, 2021 22:49:26 GMT -5
Great for Benesh. The one and only young blocker in the U.S. pipeline worth caring about. Dark days ahead unless the kid fills his potential. Must be all about the points for Benesh, because I'm not sure that Billy Allen is a big upgrade over guys like Beranek?
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Post by beavis on Jan 17, 2021 22:55:43 GMT -5
I'll go on a limb and make a few silly AVP Tour predictions. Stops in Austin, Seattle and somewhere in Florida in early to mid-summer, with Chicago making a surprising comeback on Labor Day. I'd guess that Donald really, really, really would like to see New York happen in late summer, but not sure idiot DeBlasio would ever let that happen. Maybe one other surprise in a location that is much more open-for-business friendly?
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Post by COVAlove on Jan 17, 2021 23:04:19 GMT -5
Great for Benesh. The one and only young blocker in the U.S. pipeline worth caring about. Dark days ahead unless the kid fills his potential. Must be all about the points for Benesh, because I'm not sure that Billy Allen is a big upgrade over guys like Beranek? Billy is going to side out at a higher % and set better than Beranek and make the smart shot in transition. He’s far more steady and will even Benesh out instead of wild highs and lows. Eric might be lights out in a match or he might hit .112.
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Post by haze on Jan 17, 2021 23:41:53 GMT -5
Great for Benesh. The one and only young blocker in the U.S. pipeline worth caring about. Dark days ahead unless the kid fills his potential. Must be all about the points for Benesh, because I'm not sure that Billy Allen is a big upgrade over guys like Beranek? Different stages of their career, but any big would be crazy to take Bernanke over allen right now. Allen is much better player right now.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 17, 2021 23:59:53 GMT -5
Must be all about the points for Benesh, because I'm not sure that Billy Allen is a big upgrade over guys like Beranek? Different stages of their career, but any big would be crazy to take Bernanke over allen right now. Allen is much better player right now. If Benesh is thinking longer term, and he should be because neither of these guys are elite defenders now, Allen has to be the choice. He has a ton of experience and the ability to share that and he is a better player right now. The only thing Beranek has to offer is the possibility of growing together and if Benesh has real high level ambitions, Beranek's physical limits would mean he would have to be dumped eventually anyway. It is nice to have a team of up and comers though and I really appreciated how these two played so many high level amateur events
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Post by stephenasinjin on Jan 18, 2021 0:13:07 GMT -5
I’m kinda shocked at the lack of love for Miles Evans. The dude managed to make a final in 2019 with an out of shape doherty and sided out well enough despite Doherty’s setting to cause a lot of teams to go after doherty. Then played events in 2020 with an out of shape Ricardo. Proven himself on the fivb with kolinske.
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Post by COVAlove on Jan 18, 2021 0:30:19 GMT -5
I’m kinda shocked at the lack of love for Miles Evans. The dude managed to make a final in 2019 with an out of shape doherty and sided out well enough despite Doherty’s setting to cause a lot of teams to go after doherty. Then played events in 2020 with an out of shape Ricardo. Proven himself on the fivb with kolinske. . Can’t remember the exact final he made in 2019 but remember that being a super weak field. Am I misremembering? Is there a reason he has had to play with an out of shape duo that are on their way out of the sport? I think he doesn’t play to his physical ability and he’s over 30 isn’t he? I think he’s a lower level AVP main draw defender but people aren’t lining up to play with this guy for one reason or another.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 18, 2021 1:02:03 GMT -5
I’m kinda shocked at the lack of love for Miles Evans. The dude managed to make a final in 2019 with an out of shape doherty and sided out well enough despite Doherty’s setting to cause a lot of teams to go after doherty. Then played events in 2020 with an out of shape Ricardo. Proven himself on the fivb with kolinske. I also wonder about Miles not getting a better partner. He is certainly a stronger player than Beranek for example. However I think saying "proven himself on the FIVB" is pretty strong. He and Kolinske almost always lost to the first good team they played and frequently failed to advance from the qualifiers. In 8 events in 2019, mostly 3 stars or lower, the highest seeded team they beat was seeded 23rd, and that was in a 3 star. In 2018, they did slightly better but not by much. These guys never should have been playing FIVB to begin with.
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Post by stephenasinjin on Jan 18, 2021 8:05:43 GMT -5
I’m kinda shocked at the lack of love for Miles Evans. The dude managed to make a final in 2019 with an out of shape doherty and sided out well enough despite Doherty’s setting to cause a lot of teams to go after doherty. Then played events in 2020 with an out of shape Ricardo. Proven himself on the fivb with kolinske. I also wonder about Miles not getting a better partner. He is certainly a stronger player than Beranek for example. However I think saying "proven himself on the FIVB" is pretty strong. He and Kolinske almost always lost to the first good team they played and frequently failed to advance from the qualifiers. In 8 events in 2019, mostly 3 stars or lower, the highest seeded team they beat was seeded 23rd, and that was in a 3 star. In 2018, they did slightly better but not by much. These guys never should have been playing FIVB to begin with. Proven was a bit strong, but he’s cut his teeth out there a good bit more than some other defenders. So I went and looked at the list of blockers on avp america and there’s not that many blockers left especially with Stafford and Doherty retiring. After Theo and Budinger, the next 2 blockers by points are Casebeer and Ricardo, then Ed Ratledge, THEN Kolinske. Guess it just seemed like eligible blockers were passing on Miles Evans but apparently they’re just passing on volleyball as a whole haha.
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