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Post by beachcomber on Mar 17, 2021 8:37:43 GMT -5
Here's how it works. Players can only move up or down the ladder one spot from one game to the next. For example, the Nourse twins cannot go directly from 5 to 3. They would have to play one game in the 4s, and then they could move to 3. But then they go back up the same way, one slot per game. Players that have not played at all can be dropped into any spot and then move from there. But if a player, for example, goes from the bench to the 3s, and then goes back to the bench - they can only come back into the lineup to the spot in which they last play. In this case. the 3s. If there are different rules to account for Covid protocols - and there might be - I have not seen them.
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Post by volley2022 on Mar 17, 2021 10:08:33 GMT -5
I agree with separate thread for the age / grad student debate. But speaking of giving opportunities to “younger” players, I wonder if Coach Dain will take advantage of the Thursday meet against Cal State Bakersfield to start the 6th and 7th pairs. I know nothing about CS Bakersfield but they can’t be that good and likely the program is just starting out. It should be the equivalent of an exhibition match. I would sit 2 pairs of starters and keep 3 pairs to ensure the win. My choices: Graudina-Slater - Sit out, competition would be worse than practice Harward-Scoles - Sit out, they’ve played enough to already have their groove on most of the time. 1. Hallgren-Kraft 2. Dennis-Maple 3. Nourse-Nourse 4. Hallgren-Kaiser 5. Bakos-Ebertin - Dreeuws is a senior so I chose Bakos over her. Exh. Dreeuws-Cummings Any speculation? Don’t know how this fits into those sandbagging rules and whether there would be any penalty for the weekend match in Malibu. Harper Hallgren, Maja Kaiser and Mollie Ebertin have all started multiple matches in previous years and should be able to easily beat the Runners’ bottom two pairs. Anticipated Lineup No. 1 : Tina GRAUDINA/Sammy SLATER No. 2 : Hailey HARWARD/Julia SCOLES No. 3 : Haley HALLGREN/Megan KRAFT No. 4 : Joy DENNIS/Delaynie MAPLE No. 5 : Audrey NOURSE/Nicole NOURSE usctrojans.com/documents/2021/3/16/21uscbvb0316.pdf |
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Post by sonofdogman on Mar 17, 2021 11:04:02 GMT -5
Here's how it works. Players can only move up or down the ladder one spot from one game to the next. For example, the Nourse twins cannot go directly from 5 to 3. They would have to play one game in the 4s, and then they could move to 3. But then they go back up the same way, one slot per game. Players that have not played at all can be dropped into any spot and then move from there. But if a player, for example, goes from the bench to the 3s, and then goes back to the bench - they can only come back into the lineup to the spot in which they last play. In this case. the 3s. If there are different rules to account for Covid protocols - and there might be - I have not seen them. Alternates can actually return to either the position they played in, or come back at the 5s, provided they did not move up or down while they were in the lineup. I'm pretty sure that's correct and that there are no additional lineup guidelines added this year due to COVID-19. The ten players who started the first match of the season, and any alternate who enters the lineup and then moves up or down, must return to the same position of they are removed. EDIT: oh and of course the number 1 rule of playing your pairs in order of ability is supposed to always trump the other lineup provisions. |
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Post by vballfreak808 on Mar 17, 2021 12:28:12 GMT -5
When Cal Poly faced The Master’s last week (yes it was an official game), they only kept one of its usual pairs in (moved them from 5’s to 4’s) and the rest of the pairs were all subs.
Right after that when they faced CSU Bakersfield, they returned all their starters back and moved their usual pair back down.
USC may try that if they want to but I can see Dain keeping a pairs in tact as CSUB did compete hard in a few flights with Cal Poly
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Post by volley2022 on Mar 17, 2021 16:04:39 GMT -5
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Post by volley2022 on Mar 18, 2021 9:19:17 GMT -5
TV Schedule USC Live Stream - Mar 18 (Thu) 12:00 CSU Bakersfield. Los Angeles, Calif. (Merle Norman Stadium) ----------------- Mar 21 (Sun) 2:00 Pepperdine. Malibu, Calif. Pac-12 Networks - Mar 27 (Sat) 12:45 Oregon. Tucson, Ariz. (Pac-12 South Invitational) Pac-12 Networks - Mar 27 (Sat) 7:00 Utah. Tucson, Ariz. (Pac-12 South Invitational) Mar 28 (Sun) 12:45 Washington. Tucson, Ariz. (Pac-12 South Invitational)Mar 28 (Sun) 5:45 UCLA. Tucson, Ariz. (Pac-12 South Invitational)USC Live Stream - Apr 3 (Sat) 11:00 Florida State. Los Angeles, Calif. (Merle Norman Stadium) USC Live Stream - Apr 3 (Sat) 1:00 Florida State. Los Angeles, Calif. (Merle Norman Stadium) USC Live Stream - Apr 4 (Sun) 11:00 LSU. Los Angeles, Calif. (Merle Norman Stadium) USC Live Stream - Apr 4 (Sun) 1:00 LSU. Los Angeles, Calif. (Merle Norman Stadium) Pac-12 Networks - Apr 10 (Sat) 9:00 Cal. Stanford, Calif. (Pac-12 North Invitational) Apr 10 (Sat) 11:00 Arizona. Stanford, Calif. (Pac-12 North Invitational)Pac-12 Networks - Apr 11 (Sun) 1:00 Stanford. Stanford, Calif. (Pac-12 North Invitational) -------------------- Apr 11 (Sun) 3:00 Arizona State. Stanford, Calif. (Pac-12 North Invitational) -------------------- Apr 16 (Fri) TBD ? ?. San Luis Obispo, Calif. (Center Of Effort Challenge) -------------------- Apr 17 (Sat) TBD Cal Poly. San Luis Obispo, Calif. (Center Of Effort Challenge) UCLA Live Stream - Apr 22 (Thu) 3:00 UCLA. Los Angeles, Calif. |
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Post by volley2022 on Mar 18, 2021 14:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by hbmb10k on Mar 18, 2021 15:08:09 GMT -5
Looking at this feed today. Every so often I get the feeling USC needs to add a pinch more of junior's level sneakiness with dink shots and cut shots to keep the other side honest. With the amount of time these players actually compete in tournaments I think you lose some of that ability to make an easy point.
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Post by volley2022 on Mar 18, 2021 16:35:25 GMT -5
USC 5, CSUB 0
1. Graudina/Slater (USC) def. Hansen/Makonova (CSUB) 21-17, 21-18
2. Harward/Scoles (USC) def. Solberg/Vukobrat (CSUB) 21-12, 21-11
3. Hallgren/Kraft (USC) def. Gendale/McCluskey (CSUB) 21-14, 21-13
4. Dennis/Maple (USC) def. Boiseau/Unke (CSUB) 21-12, 21-10
5. Nourse/Nourse (USC) def. Elisaia/Ortiz (CSUB) 21-10, 21-8
Exh. Bakos/Ebertin (USC) def. Sekona/Snopko (CSUB) 21-17, 21-14
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Post by burbank55 on Mar 18, 2021 16:41:39 GMT -5
Looking at this feed today. Every so often I get the feeling USC needs to add a pinch more of junior's level sneakiness with dink shots and cut shots to keep the other side honest. With the amount of time these players actually compete in tournaments I think you lose some of that ability to make an easy point. Seems like they kept the normal starting lineup like “anticipated”. |
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Post by vb1999 on Mar 18, 2021 17:38:33 GMT -5
I agree with separate thread for the age / grad student debate. But speaking of giving opportunities to “younger” players, I wonder if Coach Dain will take advantage of the Thursday meet against Cal State Bakersfield to start the 6th and 7th pairs. I know nothing about CS Bakersfield but they can’t be that good and likely the program is just starting out. It should be the equivalent of an exhibition match. I would sit 2 pairs of starters and keep 3 pairs to ensure the win. My choices: Graudina-Slater - Sit out, competition would be worse than practice Harward-Scoles - Sit out, they’ve played enough to already have their groove on most of the time. 1. Hallgren-Kraft 2. Dennis-Maple 3. Nourse-Nourse 4. Hallgren-Kaiser 5. Bakos-Ebertin - Dreeuws is a senior so I chose Bakos over her. Exh. Dreeuws-Cummings Any speculation? Don’t know how this fits into those sandbagging rules and whether there would be any penalty for the weekend match in Malibu. Harper Hallgren, Maja Kaiser and Mollie Ebertin have all started multiple matches in previous years and should be able to easily beat the Runners’ bottom two pairs. What are the sandbagging rules, seems like there is quite a bit going on? Why is Dennis up so high anyways? Bakos should get a shot somewhere, maybe where Maple is, Bakos is proven strong. Also, the Nourse twin was injured and came back just as season started but they are strong now and should be moving up? |
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Post by burbank55 on Mar 18, 2021 18:16:01 GMT -5
I agree with separate thread for the age / grad student debate. But speaking of giving opportunities to “younger” players, I wonder if Coach Dain will take advantage of the Thursday meet against Cal State Bakersfield to start the 6th and 7th pairs. I know nothing about CS Bakersfield but they can’t be that good and likely the program is just starting out. It should be the equivalent of an exhibition match. I would sit 2 pairs of starters and keep 3 pairs to ensure the win. My choices: Graudina-Slater - Sit out, competition would be worse than practice Harward-Scoles - Sit out, they’ve played enough to already have their groove on most of the time. 1. Hallgren-Kraft 2. Dennis-Maple 3. Nourse-Nourse 4. Hallgren-Kaiser 5. Bakos-Ebertin - Dreeuws is a senior so I chose Bakos over her. Exh. Dreeuws-Cummings w Any speculation? Don’t know how this fits into those sandbagging rules and whether there would be any penalty for the weekend match in Malibu. Harper Hallgren, Maja Kaiser and Mollie Ebertin have all started multiple matches in previous years and should be able to easily beat the Runners’ bottom two pairs. What are the sandbagging rules, seems like there is quite a bit going on? Why is Dennis up so high anyways? Bakos should get a shot somewhere, maybe where Maple is, Bakos is proven strong. Also, the Nourse twin was injured and came back just as season started but they are strong now and should be moving up? From what is spoken, much disorganization. Vb1999, you seem to want to be stirring up trouble when there is none. USC is not sandbagging at all. This year, they just have 5 pairs capable of playing 1s or 2s at most programs. Even pairs 6 and 7 have the talent and experience to beat most other schools’ 3 pairs. NCAA instituted rules well explained above to limit sandbagging.
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Post by Fight On! on Mar 21, 2021 18:31:28 GMT -5
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Post by volley2022 on Mar 21, 2021 18:31:52 GMT -5
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