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Post by burbank55 on Apr 30, 2021 13:10:11 GMT -5
I see Maple/Kraft and Scoles/Harward back together for $20K AVP tournament in New Orleans June 5th. Half the starters are gone after this season. Are we going to see any of their replacements step up and get better in the off season like these pairs did? Attend multiple top end AVPNext events? The Nourses perhaps, not so confident about the players coming off the bench. Of the 10 starters, only 2 are officially confirmed gone. Haley Hallgren and Joy Dennis were included in the Senior Day celebrations when the school explicitly stated the 5 participants would not be returning. Sammy Slater was not included so she must be coming back. Tina Graudina, Julia Scoles, and Hailey Harward could be gone or they could decide that another free year of grad school is better than starting their real careers. Scoles & Harward could continue to play events throughout the next year like Hughes & Claes did their senior year and put the winnings in a reserved account that can only be used for expenses until they turn pro. 🤗 Anticipated USC Lineup for Pac-12 Championships 2021: No. 1 : Tina Graudina/Megan Kraft 7-1 No. 2 : Julia Scoles/Sammy Slater 9-1 No. 3 : Haley Hallgren/Hailey Harward 6-2 No. 4 : Joy Dennis/Delaynie Maple 21-2 No. 5 : Audrey Nourse/Nicole Nourse 24-1
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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 30, 2021 13:24:23 GMT -5
I see Maple/Kraft and Scoles/Harward back together for $20K AVP tournament in New Orleans June 5th. Half the starters are gone after this season. Are we going to see any of their replacements step up and get better in the off season like these pairs did? Attend multiple top end AVPNext events? The Nourses perhaps, not so confident about the players coming off the bench. A fair amount of misinformation in this post. It is possible that the only starters not returning next season are Joy Dennis and Haley Hallgren. It was already announced on Pac-12 broadcast yesterday that two grad students are joining the team next season (1 from Stanford, 1 from Cal) - thus, the lineup may not change that much and may not open up for “replacements”. This post assumes that players who are not paying for travel and entry fees for AVPNext events are doing nothing. False assumption. You don’t need to pay to arrange scrimmages or work on your game. You don’t improve at tournaments - you improve at practice. Plus, all of the players do not have the funds that the Nourses have access to - their international experience is a function of access to funds (how many players can afford to attend 1-star events in Cambodia, Malaysia and India). The “replacements” would likely be starting at the vast majority of other beach programs - USC is lucky to have the depth they have. Finally, there is no realistic career in beach volleyball for most of these girls. It would be beneficial for all of them to develop their non-beach professional resumes during the college off-season in addition to practicing. That's nonsense. I've seen it with my own eyes for the last ten years. The best junior players play tournaments on a regular basis. These then become the starters at the top programs. Yes, you will have a outlier here and there. The girls you describe in college that don't play much and just practice. Those are the girls on the bench. Furthermore, nobody is making a judgement here. If you want to focus on school, more power to you. I'm just describing what's going on. I know of starters that don' play much off season. Halgren for instance is the exception that proves the rule. Doesn't play much, does practice. Not near the player she could have been if she sought out competition. Again, not judging.
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Post by bvbfanatic on Apr 30, 2021 14:33:05 GMT -5
A fair amount of misinformation in this post. The best junior players play tournaments on a regular basis. This is really comparing apples and oranges. We’re not talking about juniors. Every girl on the roster played tons of tournaments as juniors. Once in college, they practice all throughout the season and train and practice in the fall. The idea that playing a few tournaments in June and July will make a difference in their play come next March when the 2022 season starts is misguided.
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Post by volley2022 on Apr 30, 2021 15:49:04 GMT -5
2021 Pac-12 Championship Mapes Beach • Los Angeles, Calif. April 30 • 1.30 p.m. PT • Live TV: Pac-12 Networks [1] USC vs. [4] Stanford
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Post by fetchin on Apr 30, 2021 15:58:26 GMT -5
I see Maple/Kraft and Scoles/Harward back together for $20K AVP tournament in New Orleans June 5th. Half the starters are gone after this season. Are we going to see any of their replacements step up and get better in the off season like these pairs did? Attend multiple top end AVPNext events? The Nourses perhaps, not so confident about the players coming off the bench. Of the 10 starters, only 2 are officially confirmed gone. Haley Hallgren and Joy Dennis were included in the Senior Day celebrations when the school explicitly stated the 5 participants would not be returning. Sammy Slater was not included so she must be coming back. Tina Graudina, Julia Scoles, and Hailey Harward could be gone or they could decide that another free year of grad school is better than starting their real careers. Scoles & Harward could continue to play events throughout the next year like Hughes & Claes did their senior year and put the winnings in a reserved account that can only be used for expenses until they turn pro. 🤗 Anticipated USC Lineup for Pac-12 Championships 2021: No. 1 : Tina Graudina/Megan Kraft 7-1 No. 2 : Julia Scoles/Sammy Slater 9-1 No. 3 : Haley Hallgren/Hailey Harward 6-2 No. 4 : Joy Dennis/Delaynie Maple 21-2 No. 5 : Audrey Nourse/Nicole Nourse 24-1 Is Scoles going to petition for another year for that one year she sat out after UNC? How exactly can she come back? Who are the stanford and cal transfers?
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Post by volley2022 on Apr 30, 2021 17:11:46 GMT -5
USC 3, Stanford 0
1. Tina Graudina/Megan Kraft vs Xolani Hodel/Sunny Villapando 21-16, 21-7 2. Julia Scoles/Sammy Slater vs Charlie Ekstrom/Maya Harvey 19-15 DNF 3. Haley Hallgren/Hailey Harward vs Maddi Kriz/Kate Reilly 21-13, 19-21, 15-11 4. Joy Dennis/Delaynie Maple vs Amelia Smith/Emmy Sharp 12-13 DNF 5. Audrey Nourse/Nicole Nourse vs Jordan McKinney/Maddie Dailey 21-12, 23-21 Order of finish: 5, 3, 1*
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Post by johnbar on Apr 30, 2021 18:20:28 GMT -5
Who are the stanford and cal transfers? Sunny Villapando from Stanford, and I think Schafer from Cal.
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Post by burbank55 on Apr 30, 2021 22:06:25 GMT -5
Of the 10 starters, only 2 are officially confirmed gone. Haley Hallgren and Joy Dennis were included in the Senior Day celebrations when the school explicitly stated the 5 participants would not be returning. Sammy Slater was not included so she must be coming back. Tina Graudina, Julia Scoles, and Hailey Harward could be gone or they could decide that another free year of grad school is better than starting their real careers. Scoles & Harward could continue to play events throughout the next year like Hughes & Claes did their senior year and put the winnings in a reserved account that can only be used for expenses until they turn pro. 🤗 Anticipated USC Lineup for Pac-12 Championships 2021: No. 1 : Tina Graudina/Megan Kraft 7-1 No. 2 : Julia Scoles/Sammy Slater 9-1 No. 3 : Haley Hallgren/Hailey Harward 6-2 No. 4 : Joy Dennis/Delaynie Maple 21-2 No. 5 : Audrey Nourse/Nicole Nourse 24-1 Is Scoles going to petition for another year for that one year she sat out after UNC? How exactly can she come back? Who are the stanford and cal transfers? Her bio lists all years played. usctrojans.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball/roster/julia-scoles/11847Looks like Scoles played one year of indoor at UNC. She was granted a medical redshirt her second year. She sat out her third year. Fourth Year was at Hawaii Beach and was her second year of eligibility. Fifth Year at Hawaii was a free year due to the pandemic. Sixth Year (2021) at USC is her third year of eligibility. I remember discussing this indoor/beach eligibility for a previous Trojan transfer (Terese Cannon?).
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Post by burbank55 on Apr 30, 2021 22:49:54 GMT -5
Who are the stanford and cal transfers? Sunny Villapando from Stanford, and I think Schafer from Cal. Wow, both play at ones for their respective squads. I saw Villapando play well against Arizona St. Schafer is 6’0”. Is she the primary blocker or does she split block with Mirkovic?
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 30, 2021 23:44:19 GMT -5
was just curious why the Nourse twins are at the 5s? It seemed to me tbey played higher mid season, non?
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Post by volley2022 on May 1, 2021 10:33:18 GMT -5
2021 Pac-12 Championship Mapes Beach • Los Angeles, Calif.
Winner's Bracket Final May 1 • 9 a.m. PT • Live TV: Pac-12 Networks [1] USC 1, [2] UCLA 3
1. Graudina/Kraft vs Simo/Denaburg 21-11, 21-16 2. Scoles/Slater vs Newberry/Monkhouse 15-21, 16-21 3. Hallgren/Harward vs Van Winkle/Sparks 17-21, 18-19 DNF 4. Dennis/Maple vs Quade/Muret 17-21, 20-22 5. Nourse/Nourse vs Powers/Whitmarsh 18-21, 16-21
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Post by Fight On! on May 1, 2021 12:23:35 GMT -5
Wow SC is $hitting the bed.
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Post by Fight On! on May 1, 2021 12:30:43 GMT -5
was just curious why the Nourse twins are at the 5s? It seemed to me tbey played higher mid season, non? No. 5s all season, I am pretty sure.
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Post by tamz on May 1, 2021 12:48:56 GMT -5
😱usc loses to UCLA
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Post by bvbfanatic on May 1, 2021 12:50:50 GMT -5
was just curious why the Nourse twins are at the 5s? It seemed to me tbey played higher mid season, non? Because that’s where they belong.
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