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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 25, 2021 12:23:38 GMT -5
Noob, can you tell me why the Babbitt shooting was much more justified? Was she armed with a gun? Did she post eminent danger to someone?
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 12:36:14 GMT -5
It was easy enough to count the approximate time he was stopped there, which is around 15 seconds. The whole "beat up on his car" nonsense is just that. It's pretty mild. What he did next was just crazy. It's clearly not justifiable given the situation. Again, I guess the policeman was supposed to try to back up, even though he couldn’t see, he could’ve possibly ran over people going that way, but it’s all his fault when people started beating on his car that he tried to get out of there. Your mentality as Democrats is something to behold. I have never seen anything like it. There was nobody behind the vehicle. It's pretty clear that's the case from the last vid I linked. I get it. You believe Ashli Babbitt "wasn't hurting anyone" when (as a Trump supporter) she climbed through a window on a barricaded door with a big pack containing who knows what, as police have their guns drawn with multiple members of Congress yet to be cleared from the House Chambers. But you apparently believe that this officer who went through 7 seconds of people slapping on his his patrol vehicle's body "feared for his safety" and was justified in running over someone 25 feet away.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 12:38:03 GMT -5
Noob, can you tell me why the Babbitt shooting was much more justified? Was she armed with a gun? Did she post eminent danger to someone? She was trying to get past a barricaded door and had a large pack on her back. You don't think that's a threat? You think she's allowed to get through and confront members of Congress? If she wasn't a Trump supporter you'd be saying the shooting was justified.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2021 12:38:59 GMT -5
While the Babbitt shooting was MUCH more justified than this, these clowns are putting this officer in a similar situation. Every person has their own breaking point when concern over your own personal safety trumps respect for others. Unless he meant to put his car in reverse and accidentally went forward, this officer’s line is clearly too low for this line of work. He should get fired and charged. However, I also don’t feel bad for the idiots who put themselves in harm’s way. It's rare that I agree with you, but this is one of those times. It is possible to think that the people in the crowd were acting idiotically and yet still hold the driver to standards of reasonable action.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2021 12:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on Jan 25, 2021 12:50:06 GMT -5
Noob, can you tell me why the Babbitt shooting was much more justified? Was she armed with a gun? Did she post eminent danger to someone? How would that guard know if she had a gun or not?
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 12:52:22 GMT -5
While the Babbitt shooting was MUCH more justified than this, these clowns are putting this officer in a similar situation. Every person has their own breaking point when concern over your own personal safety trumps respect for others. Unless he meant to put his car in reverse and accidentally went forward, this officer’s line is clearly too low for this line of work. He should get fired and charged. However, I also don’t feel bad for the idiots who put themselves in harm’s way. It's rare that I agree with you, but this is one of those times. It is possible to think that the people in the crowd were acting idiotically and yet still hold the driver to standards of reasonable action. I don't doubt that it was a bad idea to start hitting the side of the car. I get that they're intentionally blocking the vehicle. However, he didn't just drive through, but revved through indiscriminately.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 25, 2021 21:47:50 GMT -5
Noob, can you tell me why the Babbitt shooting was much more justified? Was she armed with a gun? Did she post eminent danger to someone? How would that guard know if she had a gun or not? Are you so afraid of these crazies driving you off the site that you don’t stand for anything firmly? What do you think about that policeman? When they begin to beat on his car? Should he wait until they bust his windshield. Or should he wait until they drag him out of the car and beat him? Do you think policeman should have to put up with that? Why did the people purposely stand in front of the police car? Have some guts.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 22:20:18 GMT -5
How would that guard know if she had a gun or not? Are you so afraid of these crazies driving you off the site that you don’t stand for anything firmly? What do you think about that policeman? When they begin to beat on his car? Should he wait until they bust his windshield. Or should he wait until they drag him out of the car and beat him? Do you think policeman should have to put up with that? Why did the people purposely stand in front of the police car? Have some guts. You keep on saying they "beat on his car" like they were bashing in his windows with flagpoles and helmets. No - it was all open hand slaps. It was an annoyance. And a 29-year veteran of the Tacoma Police Department better know what the game is. They were there to block off the intersection from anyone getting there as well as watching the action. And once the po-po show up they'll try to slow him down so the participants can get away without their cars being impounded. There is no way that it was the first time he'd ever encountered a sideshow. Just in case you didn't notice, they guy run over was't hitting the car. He didn't throw anything at the car and he sure as heck didn't trying climbing into the broken window of the police car. One guy who was knocked down had his back turned and didn't see it coming. The officer has been publicly identified. www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/tacoma-police-identify-officer-who-drove-into-crowd/
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 25, 2021 22:22:42 GMT -5
Are you so afraid of these crazies driving you off the site that you don’t stand for anything firmly? What do you think about that policeman? When they begin to beat on his car? Should he wait until they bust his windshield. Or should he wait until they drag him out of the car and beat him? Do you think policeman should have to put up with that? Why did the people purposely stand in front of the police car? Have some guts. You keep on saying they "beat on his car" like they were bashing in his windows with flagpoles and helmets. No - it was all open hand slaps. It was an annoyance. And a 29-year veteran of the Tacoma Police Department better know what the game is. They were there to block off the intersection from anyone getting there as well as watching the action. And once the po-po show up they'll try to slow him down so the participants can get away without their cars being impounded. There is no way that it was the first time he'd ever encountered a sideshow. Just in case you didn't notice, they guy run over was't hitting the car. He didn't throw anything at the car and he sure as heck didn't trying climbing into the broken window of the police car. One guy who was knocked down had his back turned and didn't see it coming. The officer has been publicly identified. www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/tacoma-police-identify-officer-who-drove-into-crowd/Bear, even in a distant video, you could hear them beating on the car. Loudly. They weren’t letting him Proceed.Should he just wait it out and hope they don’t kill him? You guys do realize that by defending this, you’ve eliminated any credibility you had about the capital police. You guys have a big problem. You’ve allowed this behavior for so long, that how many incidents have you had since the election? And it’s going to get worse if you guys don’t start cracking on people. But you guys are like those liberal parents who never tell their kids NO. And they have to end up going through drug rehab and finally get their crap together when they’re 40 years old when their brain is fried.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 25, 2021 22:44:35 GMT -5
You keep on saying they "beat on his car" like they were bashing in his windows with flagpoles and helmets. No - it was all open hand slaps. It was an annoyance. And a 29-year veteran of the Tacoma Police Department better know what the game is. They were there to block off the intersection from anyone getting there as well as watching the action. And once the po-po show up they'll try to slow him down so the participants can get away without their cars being impounded. There is no way that it was the first time he'd ever encountered a sideshow. Just in case you didn't notice, they guy run over was't hitting the car. He didn't throw anything at the car and he sure as heck didn't trying climbing into the broken window of the police car. One guy who was knocked down had his back turned and didn't see it coming. The officer has been publicly identified. www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/tacoma-police-identify-officer-who-drove-into-crowd/Bear, even in a distant video, you could hear them beating on the car. Loudly. They weren’t letting him Proceed.Should he just wait it out and hope they don’t kill him? You guys do realize that by defending this, you’ve eliminated any credibility you had about the capital police. You guys have a big problem. You’ve allowed this behavior for so long, that how many incidents have you had since the election? And it’s going to get worse if you guys don’t start cracking on people. But you guys are like those liberal parents who never tell their kids NO. And they have to end up going through drug rehab and finally get their crap together when they’re 40 years old when their brain is fried. I'm not defending it at all. They're clearly obstructing an officer in the performance of his duties. They could be arrested for that. And after 29 years he should know a thing or two of what's likely to happen. However, that's not a license for him to mow down a dozen people indiscriminately. He had a bullhorn and didn't even give a warning. As for the Capitol Building shooting, even a legal scholar at the Heritage Foundation agrees that it was justified.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 26, 2021 6:41:15 GMT -5
And predictably the riot followed. Because there’s no respect for authority. Small businesses looted, windows broke, the usual for northwest America.
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Post by n00b on Jan 26, 2021 10:18:38 GMT -5
How would that guard know if she had a gun or not? Are you so afraid of these crazies driving you off the site that you don’t stand for anything firmly? What do you think about that policeman? When they begin to beat on his car? Should he wait until they bust his windshield. Or should he wait until they drag him out of the car and beat him? Do you think policeman should have to put up with that? Why did the people purposely stand in front of the police car? Have some guts. Go check the trans athlete thread on the volleyball board. I clearly don't mind getting called names by people on this board. There weren't people behind him. He could've backed out of the crowd. Or he needed to have better control of his car to slowly push through the crowd.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 26, 2021 10:38:17 GMT -5
Are you so afraid of these crazies driving you off the site that you don’t stand for anything firmly? What do you think about that policeman? When they begin to beat on his car? Should he wait until they bust his windshield. Or should he wait until they drag him out of the car and beat him? Do you think policeman should have to put up with that? Why did the people purposely stand in front of the police car? Have some guts. Go check the trans athlete thread on the volleyball board. I clearly don't mind getting called names by people on this board. There weren't people behind him. He could've backed out of the crowd. Or he needed to have better control of his car to slowly push through the crowd. I have watched almost every video angle, and no one can determine if there were people behind him or not. Should a policeman have to sit there and try to figure out how to drive out of the mob? Are we that far gone that we now expect policeman to avoid violence? Think about that.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 26, 2021 10:39:23 GMT -5
Do you know why these people always win? Because they bully and malign people until they give up.
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