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Post by KAP on Mar 12, 2021 16:08:26 GMT -5
Regardless of how Dalhausser/Lucena play I am skeptical that T2 will be able to do anything in the FIVB "without much difficulty" unless they start beating teams like Schalk/Brunner consistently. They’ve beaten plenty of FIVB teams of that caliber over the last couple years which is how they got to be #14 in the world. But maybe there’s an injury that we don’t know about or perhaps they’ve just been lucky all along. I am 100% convinced that T2 would have their spot all but locked up if Tri hadn't broken his hand. They had to forfeit their round of 24 match in Vienna to Ehlers/Flüggen, and they would have played the Grimalts in the round of 16 and Nick/Phil in the quarterfinals of that tournament. That's as good of a draw as they could have asked for. If they would have taken the 840 points for 4th place there instead of Dalcena, they would have a commanding lead on them. Than they missed Moscow (which they may have skipped for Manhattan anyway), and took a 25th at World Tour Finals with Tri playing lefty. If they take a 9th at WTF instead, that would have put them at 6960 points, just behind where Cribb is now. They also wouldn't have gotten relegated to the CQ for Doha. I know it's a lot of what-ifs, but it shows how many points they missed out on because of that one injury.
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Post by tamz on Mar 12, 2021 16:19:26 GMT -5
They wanted to go get some points but had they not, they would’ve held onto their WC 4th place finish.
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Post by tamz on Mar 15, 2021 11:14:14 GMT -5
March 15th, 2021 Update:
Cribb 8th in Olympics Rankings Dalcena moves up to 13th (and ahead of T2 for the first time in a very long time) with their 4th place finish T2 moves down and ties with Qatar in 14th place
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Post by tamz on Mar 15, 2021 21:31:20 GMT -5
Jake Gibb on His Final Year — this is it 😢
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Post by acrossthepond on Mar 30, 2021 10:06:17 GMT -5
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Post by tamz on Mar 30, 2021 10:13:59 GMT -5
Argentina finished first?? Wow
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Post by Semp12 on Mar 31, 2021 9:45:15 GMT -5
They’ve beaten plenty of FIVB teams of that caliber over the last couple years which is how they got to be #14 in the world. But maybe there’s an injury that we don’t know about or perhaps they’ve just been lucky all along. I am 100% convinced that T2 would have their spot all but locked up if Tri hadn't broken his hand. They had to forfeit their round of 24 match in Vienna to Ehlers/Flüggen, and they would have played the Grimalts in the round of 16 and Nick/Phil in the quarterfinals of that tournament. That's as good of a draw as they could have asked for. If they would have taken the 840 points for 4th place there instead of Dalcena, they would have a commanding lead on them. Than they missed Moscow (which they may have skipped for Manhattan anyway), and took a 25th at World Tour Finals with Tri playing lefty. If they take a 9th at WTF instead, that would have put them at 6960 points, just behind where Cribb is now. They also wouldn't have gotten relegated to the CQ for Doha. I know it's a lot of what-ifs, but it shows how many points they missed out on because of that one injury. That is a lot of what ifs, especially for a team that has not proven they are actually better than Phil/Nick other than the 3rd AVP event of last summer when Phil/Nick had proved they were the top team of the summer, and T2 played all out to squeak it out in 3 with their silly guarantee. Those wins you listed above are far from guarantees. They went three with Ehlers/Flugen earlier in 2019, so that is definitely not a guarantee (even if it was an "easier draw"). If only they played better against Chaim/Theo instead of complaining how it was unfair Chaim and Theo didn't have any "pressure". I really do like T2 as a team but it is hard for me to get that sour taste out of my mouth from the all out whining and complaining after they lost the CQ.
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Post by tamz on Apr 14, 2021 16:49:45 GMT -5
In case anyone needs a quick recap on where USA teams stand in the Olympics race:
PS. Cancun is gonna be so exciting!
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Post by JB Southpaw on Apr 18, 2021 19:29:24 GMT -5
SO, Nick and Phil are replacing a 240 pt 25th, with at least a 9th, 400 points. So an increase of 160. T&T are replacing a 17th, so an increase of 140. That increases the Phil and Nick lead to 40. If either team wins their next match they'll have the lead. It becomes commanding for Phil and Nick, but only 20 for T&T.
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Post by tamz on Apr 18, 2021 20:00:59 GMT -5
SO, Nick and Phil are replacing a 240 pt 25th, with at least a 9th, 400 points. So an increase of 160. T&T are replacing a 17th, so an increase of 140. That increases the Phil and Nick lead to 40. If either team wins their next match they'll have the lead. It becomes commanding for Phil and Nick, but only 20 for T&T. T2 are replacing a 17th with at least a 9th, so it should be replacing 320 with at least 400 --> 80 points gain Dalcena lead T2 by 40 points. 40+160-80=120. This means before they play tonight's match, Dalcena increased their lead over T2 by 120 points. T2 would need to win tonight's match AND the quarters to have a lead over Dalcena.
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Post by tamz on Apr 18, 2021 20:51:16 GMT -5
AFTER CANCUN HUB 1 (2021-04-18):
Cribb: Las Vegas - 480 Sydney - 360 Xiamen - 400 Hamburg WC - 800 Gstaad - 600 Espinho - 320 Tokyo - 300 Vienna - 600 Moscow - 400 Rome - 840 *Boca Chica - 600 Chetumal - 800 Doha - 480 Doha - 640 Cancun 1 - 400
Olympics Ranking Points: 7040 points (+40) Total Played: 15 events Total Points: 8020 points Average: 535 points/event
Lowest Finishes: (3)-400 & (2)-480, which equates to having to get a 5th place finish or better at 4* events to add more points to their Olympics ranking points
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Post by tamz on Apr 18, 2021 20:54:49 GMT -5
AFTER CANCUN HUB 1 (2021-04-18):
T2: Qinzhou - 600 Las Vegas - 560 Doha - 320 Itapema - 480 Jinjiang - 560 Ostrava -320 Warsaw - 320 Hamburg WC - 1120 Gstaad - 360 Tokyo - 480 Vienna - 480 Rome - 360 Chetumal - 640 Doha - 400 Cancun 1 - 400
Olympics Ranking Points: 6440 points (+80) Total Played: 15 events Total Points: 7080 points Average: 472 points/event
Lowest Finishes: (2)-360, (2)-400, (2)-480 which equates to having to place 5th/9th or better at 4* events to add more points to their Olympics ranking points
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Post by tamz on Apr 18, 2021 21:15:08 GMT -5
AFTER CANCUN HUB 1 (2021-04-18):
Dalcena: Doha - 720 Xiamen - 240 Jinjiang - 480 Warsaw - 320 Hamburg WC - 960 Gstaad - 600 Espinho - 240 Tokyo - 480 Vienna - 840 Rome - 480 Doha - 480 Doha - 560 Cancun 1 - 400
Olympics Ranking Points: 6560 points (+160) Total Played: 13 events Total Points: 6800 points Average: 523 points/event
Lowest Finishes: (1)-240, (1)-320 which equates to having to break pool or better at 4* events to add more points to their Olympics ranking points
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Post by tamz on Apr 23, 2021 21:38:45 GMT -5
AFTER CANCUN HUB 2 (2021-04-23):
Cribb: Las Vegas - 480 Sydney - 360 Xiamen - 400 Hamburg WC - 800 Gstaad - 600 Espinho - 320 Tokyo - 300 Vienna - 600 Moscow - 400 Rome - 840 *Boca Chica - 600 Chetumal - 800 Doha - 480 Doha - 640 Cancun 1 - 400 Cancun 2 - 240^
Olympics Ranking Points: 7040 points (+0) - Average Olympics Points/Event: 587 points Total Played: 16 events Total Points: 8260 points Average: 516 points/event
Lowest Finishes: (3)-400 & (2)-480, which equates to having to get a 5th place finish or better at 4* events to add more points to their Olympics ranking points
^This is their lowest finish ever in the Olympics qualifying period.
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Post by tamz on Apr 24, 2021 19:02:50 GMT -5
AFTER CANCUN HUB 2 (2021-04-24):
T2: Qinzhou - 600 Las Vegas - 560 Doha - 320 Itapema - 480 Jinjiang - 560 Ostrava -320 Warsaw - 320 Hamburg WC - 1120 Gstaad - 360 Tokyo - 480 Vienna - 480 Rome - 360 Chetumal - 640 Doha - 400 Cancun 1 - 400 Cancun 2 - 400
Olympics Ranking Points: 6480 points (+40) - Average Olympics Points/Event: 540 points Total Played: 16 events Total Points: 7480 points Average: 468 points/event
Lowest Finishes: (1)-360, (3)-400, (2)-480 which equates to having to place 5th/9th or better at 4* events to add more points to their Olympics ranking points
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