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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Apr 15, 2021 23:01:12 GMT -5
The three PAC teams are 0-6 in sets against modest opponents. Does that stop all this bitching about seeds? Nah.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Apr 15, 2021 23:24:22 GMT -5
The three PAC teams are 0-6 in sets against modest opponents. Does that stop all this bitching about seeds? Nah. I'm sure it would've gone differently if the teams were spread out across all four sections. That's the reason they can barely squeeze 2-3 teams into the Sweet 16
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Post by hangonsloopy on Apr 15, 2021 23:29:09 GMT -5
The three PAC teams are 0-6 in sets against modest opponents. Does that stop all this bitching about seeds? Nah. I'm sure it would've gone differently if the teams were spread out across all four sections. That's the reason they can barely squeeze 2-3 teams into the Sweet 16 Can you elaborate on that? Which matchups do you think favored other seeded teams over the seeded PAC teams? (outside of Penn State which was due to covid)
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Apr 15, 2021 23:33:50 GMT -5
For some reason, despite neither conference playing any OOC matches, the committee clearly decided that the Big Ten was higher ranked than the PAC-12, and gave them markedly higher seeds. What was the result of this? Well, let's see how it turned out. Big Ten round 2 opponents: Weber State Missouri Texas State North Carolina A&T Georgia Tech High Point PAC-12 round 2 opponents: BYU Pittsburgh Dayton Notre Dame Western Kentucky ========== I don't know about you, but it sure looks to me like the PAC-12 teams have gotten a significantly harder set of second-round opponents than the Big Ten. I really wish I understood what made the committee decide the Big Ten was so much stronger than the PAC-12, considering they had absolutely no hard data to work with. Looking like we have our reasons now.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Apr 15, 2021 23:34:22 GMT -5
I'm sure it would've gone differently if the teams were spread out across all four sections. That's the reason they can barely squeeze 2-3 teams into the Sweet 16 Can you elaborate on that? Which matchups do you think favored other seeded teams over the seeded PAC teams? (outside of Penn State which was due to covid) Oh I was being sarcastic, it's something the PAC fans have ben saying the last couple weeks. If you search back in this thread you'll find their reasoning, which is basically that PAC teams got tougher second round matchups because they were underseeded across the board in a way that would force them to meet one another earlier rather than later in the tourney.
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Post by hangonsloopy on Apr 15, 2021 23:39:15 GMT -5
Can you elaborate on that? Which matchups do you think favored other seeded teams over the seeded PAC teams? (outside of Penn State which was due to covid) Oh I was being sarcastic, it's something the PAC fans have ben saying the last couple weeks. If you search back in this thread you'll find their reasoning, which is basically that PAC teams got tougher second round matchups because they were underseeded across the board in a way that would force them to meet one another earlier rather than later in the tourney. Oh ok lol yeah I didn’t know you were being sarcastic, well given how the PAC teams have performed today, I hope they don’t stick to that take because it’s ridiculous to say the least
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Post by azvb on Apr 15, 2021 23:48:48 GMT -5
I know PAC-12 required players to wear masks while playing. Did they drop that requirement during the season, or for the tournament?
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Post by coconutcandles on Apr 15, 2021 23:49:55 GMT -5
I know PAC-12 required players to wear masks while playing. Did they drop that requirement during the season, or for the tournament? for the tournament, which makes 0 sense to me and I thought that they were required the whole tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 23:53:13 GMT -5
Wow, what a night cap
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Post by n00b on Apr 15, 2021 23:55:32 GMT -5
I know PAC-12 required players to wear masks while playing. Did they drop that requirement during the season, or for the tournament? for the tournament, which makes 0 sense to me and I thought that they were required the whole tournament. Nope. NCAA recommendation guidelines were that volleyball was considered medium risk if masks were worn and that allowed for less frequent testing. If the teams test daily (like they are at the tournament), they satisfy the 'high risk' testing requirements, similar to basketball, and don't need to mask.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 16, 2021 0:00:11 GMT -5
It's something special when you can get the #10-#20 teams on a neutral court and as long as the seeding is semi-accurate, you're going to get some REALLY good matches. #11 Louisville vs. San Diego #12 Baylor vs. Pepperdine #13 Penn State vs. Rice (COULD have been really exciting) #14 Utah vs. Pittsburgh #15 Washington State vs. Western Kentucky #16 BYU vs. UCLA All of those matches were pretty great. Utah layed an egg, but anyone watching that match and has seen Pittsburgh could clearly tell they were fired up and on another level. That was not the Pitt team who went 5 with Duke. With a 64-team tournament, the Top 10 seeds also could have been challenged way more than they were, with teams like Florida State, Illinois, USC, etc. getting into the tournament and likely being 2nd-round opponents instead of Weber State, Wright State, and Texas State. I know there are a lot of complaints, it's harder to seed with no RPI/Non-conference, but, this tournament format still brought some good excitement. It's a shame we probably won't see anything like it again. I hope the regionals don't disappoint.
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Post by huskerrob on Apr 16, 2021 0:06:32 GMT -5
For some reason, despite neither conference playing any OOC matches, the committee clearly decided that the Big Ten was higher ranked than the PAC-12, and gave them markedly higher seeds. What was the result of this? Well, let's see how it turned out. Big Ten round 2 opponents: Weber State Missouri Texas State North Carolina A&T Georgia Tech High Point PAC-12 round 2 opponents: BYU Pittsburgh Dayton Notre Dame Western Kentucky ========== I don't know about you, but it sure looks to me like the PAC-12 teams have gotten a significantly harder set of second-round opponents than the Big Ten. I really wish I understood what made the committee decide the Big Ten was so much stronger than the PAC-12, considering they had absolutely no hard data to work with. Looking like we have our reasons now. At the end of the day, you beat the ones you are suppose to beat (lower ranked/seeded) and take some that you weren't supposed to have taken...to claim being cheated when they were paired with inferior opponents yet still lost or struggled, just because someone else got an even more inferior opponent, is on its face hilarious...
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 16, 2021 0:09:21 GMT -5
For some reason, despite neither conference playing any OOC matches, the committee clearly decided that the Big Ten was higher ranked than the PAC-12, and gave them markedly higher seeds. What was the result of this? Well, let's see how it turned out. Big Ten round 2 opponents: Weber State Missouri Texas State North Carolina A&T Georgia Tech High Point PAC-12 round 2 opponents: BYU Pittsburgh Dayton Notre Dame Western Kentucky ========== I don't know about you, but it sure looks to me like the PAC-12 teams have gotten a significantly harder set of second-round opponents than the Big Ten. I really wish I understood what made the committee decide the Big Ten was so much stronger than the PAC-12, considering they had absolutely no hard data to work with. Looking like we have our reasons now. Yeah, I knew people were going to post stuff like this. Me: "With these opponents, it's very probable the PAC teams are going to lose some matches" They do lose some matches. You: "See? They suck."
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Post by n00b on Apr 16, 2021 0:11:27 GMT -5
Pac-12 teams were over-seeded.
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Post by jwvolley on Apr 16, 2021 0:12:44 GMT -5
Looking like we have our reasons now. Yeah, I knew people were going to post stuff like this. Me: "With these opponents, it's very probable the PAC teams are going to lose some matches" They do lose some matches. You: "See? They suck." Some? They lost 60% and were a hair away from losing 4/5, including their champ
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