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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 11:16:51 GMT -5
NGL i want to see Lilley in the VNL instead of Hancock. Uh Hancock is vastly superior right now. Even considering NCAA, Micha has accomplished definitely more at PSU. yea but Hancock has already reached her ceiling. Lilley is more promising IMO. Lilley could be an Olympian if she goes that route
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Post by jengal on Apr 26, 2021 11:43:22 GMT -5
Would love to see Nuneviller at libero...
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Post by Reach on Apr 26, 2021 11:54:41 GMT -5
Uh Hancock is vastly superior right now. Even considering NCAA, Micha has accomplished definitely more at PSU. yea but Hancock has already reached her ceiling. Lilley is more promising IMO. Lilley could be an Olympian if she goes that route The only way Hancock has a shot is if Poulter or Carlini get injured. Going forward, unless they deviate and stop playing or really fall off then it's likely they'll remain the setters for minimum one more olympic cycle. While better than Hancock coming out of college, Lilley is not Poulter/Carlini talent and she's years behind their growing experience. Timing is not on her side. Before the 2016 games Ah Mow and Berg set for 3 Olympic games. I think were entering that situation again with the Aurora gals.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 11:55:45 GMT -5
yea but Hancock has already reached her ceiling. Lilley is more promising IMO. Lilley could be an Olympian if she goes that route The only way Hancock has a shot is if Poulter or Carlini get injured. Going forward, unless they deviate and stop playing or really fall off then it's likely they'll remain the setters for minimum one more olympic cycle. Lilley is not Poulter/Carlini talent and she's years behind their growing experience. Timing is not on her side. Before the 2016 games Ah Mow and Berg set for 3 Olympic games. I think were entering that situation again with the Aurora gals. Lilley is absolutely as talented as Poulter and Carlini coming out of college.
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Post by Reach on Apr 26, 2021 12:38:37 GMT -5
The only way Hancock has a shot is if Poulter or Carlini get injured. Going forward, unless they deviate and stop playing or really fall off then it's likely they'll remain the setters for minimum one more olympic cycle. Lilley is not Poulter/Carlini talent and she's years behind their growing experience. Timing is not on her side. Before the 2016 games Ah Mow and Berg set for 3 Olympic games. I think were entering that situation again with the Aurora gals. Lilley is absolutely as talented as Poulter and Carlini coming out of college. I know she's an easy stan right now but no.. just no.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 12:41:26 GMT -5
Lilley is absolutely as talented as Poulter and Carlini coming out of college. I know she's an easy stan right now but no.. just no. I haven’t been just been a stan of her just now. Have been for 4 years. She’s incredibly deceptive, athletic, her vball IQ is unreal, and she plays lights out defense. The tempo she is able to run in transition is something you just don’t see at the NCAA level. I’m not sure what you think she is lacking ?
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Apr 26, 2021 12:46:28 GMT -5
It seems likely that China would apply the below to the women as well, but hopefully not: "The FIVB respects the decision of the China Volleyball Association (CVA) to withdraw its national men’s team from this year’s edition of the VNL due to financial limitations and travel restrictions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, the CVA has expressed concerns over being able to field a team for the VNL due to the 14-day entry quarantine policy in China and a scheduling clash with the National Games of China" No. For one thing Lang Ping said she'd be there, and for another, the national games for women don't conflict with VNL.
Another thing is that the women's team need it for practice before Tokyo, whereas nobody really gives a **** about the men's team...
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Apr 26, 2021 12:53:31 GMT -5
It seems likely that China would apply the below to the women as well, but hopefully not: "The FIVB respects the decision of the China Volleyball Association (CVA) to withdraw its national men’s team from this year’s edition of the VNL due to financial limitations and travel restrictions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, the CVA has expressed concerns over being able to field a team for the VNL due to the 14-day entry quarantine policy in China and a scheduling clash with the National Games of China" No. For one thing Lang Ping said she'd be there, and for another, the national games for women don't conflict with VNL.
Another thing is that the women's team need it for practice before Tokyo, whereas nobody really gives a **** about the men's team...
But regardless I'm pissed at the decision. They were talking about making it to Paris 2024, how can not participating in the vnl for two consecutive years be conductive to that goal? At this rate they better hope they make the quarterfinals at the Asian games in Hangzhou next year
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Post by memorybankrupt on Apr 26, 2021 13:15:41 GMT -5
I know she's an easy stan right now but no.. just no. I haven’t been just been a stan of her just now. Have been for 4 years. She’s incredibly deceptive, athletic, her vball IQ is unreal, and she plays lights out defense. The tempo she is able to run in transition is something you just don’t see at the NCAA level. I’m not sure what you think she is lacking ? Lilley is very talented. 2024 isn't outside the realm of possibility, but she'll have a lot of catching up to do. She has similar physical tools as Poulter and Carlini. The question is going to be ability to locate sets - especially if it's the insanely quick Team USA tempo. Note: I don't find any of the US setters incredibly deceptive. The only US setter that could really fool me was Misty May.
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Post by basil on Apr 26, 2021 13:36:46 GMT -5
the USA setters are neutral. None of them really fake you out. Outside of Maja and Wolosz (at times), I haven’t seen any other setter out-right fool the middle blockers in terms of where she’s going.
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Post by alohavball on Apr 26, 2021 13:59:02 GMT -5
S: Ofelia Malinov, Alessia Orro, Francesca Bosio, Rachele Morello, Ilaria Battistoni Opp: Paola Egonu, Camila Mingardi, Indre Sorokaite, Sylvia Nwakalor, OH: Alessia Gennari, Caterina Bosetti, Anastasia Guerra, Elena Pietrini, Rebecca Piva, Giulia Melli, Sofia D’Odorico, Loveth Omoruyi MB: Cristina Chirichella, Anna Danesi, Sarah Fahr, Marina Lubian, Sara Bonifacio, Alessia Mazzaro, Eleonora Furlan, Federica Squarcini L: Monica De Gennaro, Chiara De Bortoli, Eleonora Fersino No Folie or Sulla No Lucia Bosetti or Parrocchiale either. Another thing to note is that Mazzanti won't be leading this team, his assistant coach Bregoli (head coach of Chieri) will be in charge. It seems that they will send a B team according to what Mazzanti says in the link below, "A young team will go to VNL..." Although their main players are listed in the wide roster they might be replaced with younger players for the final 18 player roster or be substituted at the midway point and go back home to train for the Olympics where it looks like Mazzanti will be training another group. www.volleyball.it/vnl-f-la-liste-del-gruppo-squadra-azzurro-28-atlete-panchina-bregoli/
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Post by alohavball on Apr 26, 2021 14:02:08 GMT -5
The Serbian Federation will announce their list soon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 15:08:05 GMT -5
S: Ofelia Malinov, Alessia Orro, Francesca Bosio, Rachele Morello, Ilaria Battistoni Opp: Paola Egonu, Camila Mingardi, Indre Sorokaite, Sylvia Nwakalor, OH: Alessia Gennari, Caterina Bosetti, Anastasia Guerra, Elena Pietrini, Rebecca Piva, Giulia Melli, Sofia D’Odorico, Loveth Omoruyi MB: Cristina Chirichella, Anna Danesi, Sarah Fahr, Marina Lubian, Sara Bonifacio, Alessia Mazzaro, Eleonora Furlan, Federica Squarcini L: Monica De Gennaro, Chiara De Bortoli, Eleonora Fersino No Folie or Sulla No Lucia Bosetti or Parrocchiale either. Another thing to note is that Mazzanti won't be leading this team, his assistant coach Bregoli (head coach of Chieri) will be in charge. It seems that they will send a B team according to what Mazzanti says in the link below, "A young team will go to VNL..." Although their main players are listed in the wide roster they might be replaced with younger players for the final 18 player roster or be substituted at the midway point and go back home to train for the Olympics where it looks like Mazzanti will be training another group. www.volleyball.it/vnl-f-la-liste-del-gruppo-squadra-azzurro-28-atlete-panchina-bregoli/ That kind of sucks. They are the hosts and still won't be sending at least some of their A team. I am glad they aren't guaranteed a finals spot.
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Post by alohavball on Apr 26, 2021 15:33:57 GMT -5
No Lucia Bosetti or Parrocchiale either. Another thing to note is that Mazzanti won't be leading this team, his assistant coach Bregoli (head coach of Chieri) will be in charge. It seems that they will send a B team according to what Mazzanti says in the link below, "A young team will go to VNL..." Although their main players are listed in the wide roster they might be replaced with younger players for the final 18 player roster or be substituted at the midway point and go back home to train for the Olympics where it looks like Mazzanti will be training another group. www.volleyball.it/vnl-f-la-liste-del-gruppo-squadra-azzurro-28-atlete-panchina-bregoli/ That kind of sucks. They are the hosts and still won't be sending at least some of their A team. I am glad they aren't guaranteed a finals spot. Another reason why FIVB should think about USA for hosting future VNL Finals knowing they are one of the teams that actually take the tournament seriously, the other being Brazil. I'm not entirely sure, but the rumored reason why Italy was chosen over other locations was because they were interested in hosting both the men's and women's VNL. Since FIVB planned to do a bubble format they wanted everyone all at the same place. Other federations had applied for only one of the tournaments, either the men's or women's, but not both.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 16:19:33 GMT -5
Lilley is absolutely as talented as Poulter and Carlini coming out of college. I know she's an easy stan right now but no.. just no. I agree that Lilley is no Carlini, but I don’t think Poulter is significantly better.
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