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Post by mcmike on Dec 3, 2021 14:06:10 GMT -5
I’ve been told, in my seat during a match, to hold my tongue after one of these mystery points lost
I Could be seeing the team in Columbus in 2 weeks if we were running on all cylinders
The ceiling is high but the athletes need to reach for it.
The quote re. Laura Kasey, and her history of success is prescient. I'm sure she has too much class to bite her tongue.
What IS the story this year and is there a chance the script can be changed?
The team has made strides (script change), imo, re more aggressive 3rd contacts from OOS sets. I was in Pittsburgh when Plummer took no prisoners and that was a lesson. Low error play, like we perpetrated vs MD in the last match, only works when your opponents don’t finish you off in transition.
I am praying we can fire over the next six matches with good balance, and apologize if my zeal rubs wrong. If something isn’t working the solution is a change in approach. If some see that as insolent coaching I say that the height of futility is to continue to do the same things that haven’t worked expecting a different outcome. e.g. harping on rotation1.
Hugh's quote in the Strib says a lot:
"We have a responsibility for holistic development. Can we help these people be better people and not just treat them as a competitive commodity? I think that matters. That narrative is not popular, I understand that … but that's what we are here for.”
Should we temper our expectations? OK!
HAVE FUN, COMPETE HARD, PAY NO ATTENTION to "nattering nabobs of negativism"
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 3, 2021 14:36:34 GMT -5
The discussion on use of statistics to evaluate players or play is a great off-season thread. I am a retired math teacher who has also taught data analysis and statistics and I am not commenting here because I have strong opinions. However, I will start a discussion after the championship and I hope you guys are still around to contribute.
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Post by mcmike on Dec 3, 2021 14:47:25 GMT -5
Thank you for the excellent explanation of terminology. Appreciate it. I guess I was looking for more of a philosophical discussion, which you may have zero interest in (which is just fine). Why should anyone care about such statistics?? They don't prove anything ... about anything, really. I too look for "philosophical discussions", meaning more qualitative discussions about what went right or wrong in matches, for example who (coaches & players) responded well/poorly at key, decisive or strategic moments. Who made or didn't make the big play when the set/match was on the line and why/why not? (Why did MN not find it in themselves to convert 1 of 3 match points v. WI?) Why do some win with bad stats? & others lose w/ good stats? Some expert observers are more quantitative in their approach & that has an important place in the discussions, too. They seem to outnumber the "sports psych" (for lack of a better term) folks. There's room for everybody. Just above I alluded to MN's improved third touch aggressiveness vis a vis low error approach. I recounted, in detail, the three match points we had vs. Wisconsin. Each ended in first ball sideouts for them. Should either Wenaas or McM. have risked a service error with a serve to the back line, or, maybe in Bailey's serve, a very short one that might not clear the net? Her serve was a midcourt lollipop. Shaff, at 26-25, almost had an ace. Barnes made a fantastic pass almost on her knees. Opponents ARE allowed to pass well. Should Hugh have let Myers serve at 25-24? I think he traded serve aggressiveness for better back court defense. Should Hugh have given Glenn an opportunity to win the match, on her serve, instead of McM? Risk vs reward, 'low-error' vs. aggressive |
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Post by vollem on Dec 3, 2021 20:27:38 GMT -5
Livestats went down. I'm almost always hesitant to "participate" in match threads because I like having my tabs quiet. Myers ripping aces early and then it went offline 6-1 MN.
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Post by coldsnap on Dec 3, 2021 20:32:24 GMT -5
Is CC not on the bench? Maybe someone mentioned it and I missed it but I don’t see her there
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 20:34:13 GMT -5
Is CC not on the bench? Maybe someone mentioned it and I missed it but I don’t see her there Tepid, but apparently she has covid. |
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Post by coldsnap on Dec 3, 2021 20:40:18 GMT -5
That’s unfortunate. She has been doing so well
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 3, 2021 21:26:03 GMT -5
She is not here. COVID is just rumor.
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Post by WMegs55 on Dec 3, 2021 21:48:37 GMT -5
Tomorrow is going to be a big challenge. I fervently hope Samedy can get to a Baylor matchup.
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Post by courtwatchers on Dec 3, 2021 21:58:15 GMT -5
Great HEART by all these Gopher players to win this one in three.
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Post by vollem on Dec 3, 2021 22:05:15 GMT -5
Good win. Stats are down again. What was the ace-error ratio? At least 9 aces. Sheesh!
Really, really tough break without CC, presumably for the entire tournament, and Miyabe braced up. She still did very well especially in her 6-ro role, but playing hindered is no fun. Credit to Kilkelly and Miyabe for pulling through, and Myers for ripping it from the service line.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Dec 3, 2021 22:19:10 GMT -5
Maybe CC is just over postseasons.
A reliable source has said she will not be available for "a while."
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Post by mcmike on Dec 3, 2021 22:27:45 GMT -5
stat available www.ncaa.com/game/5909412/boxscoreMN hit .244 SD hit .088 10aces 7 SEs Myers & Shaff each with 3, Wenass & Samedy with 2 SD had a lot of trouble passing Minnesota's performance included a credible belief planted in SD's front court that a gap set was a realistic option. This led to quite a few 1 on 1 looks for both Wenaas and Miyabe I just got back from the match and haven't seen the stats myself.CC's absence is what it is i guess. I'm wondering if Hugh should let Miyabe have 2.5 rotations to rest if her knee is sore. Glenn can adequately pass and defend after Miyabe gets sided out. I was excited to see Samedy get a gap or quick in ro1 in the middle. The set unfortunately, wasn't high enough for her to convert. Also worth mentioning are a pair of tips, one each by Wenaas and Miyabe, that were Grade A unreturnable... maybe their best two tips of the year! |
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Post by vollem on Dec 3, 2021 22:32:23 GMT -5
10 aces to 7 errors. Can't complain there. I'm surprised Glenn didn't go in backrow for Miyabe to give her a rest. As someone with a suspicious knee issue (hopefully crepitus and not micro-meniscus issue) it can be a nag to get low. That said I couldn't see Miyabe jumping, so can't say if the issue is more with jumping (and landing impact) or getting low to defend. Either way, rest her! Seeing she was led out of the Pav for a hot second was concerning. The middles collectively almost got double digit attempts!!
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Post by vollem on Dec 3, 2021 22:33:17 GMT -5
Were they passing with 2 when Miyabe was backrow or did Wenaas come back to pass and pinch her a bunch?
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