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Post by trainermch on Apr 24, 2021 13:35:17 GMT -5
Well this IS vbprisoner we're talking about here. Everyone does love a man with a plan. I picture him in his Barcalounger, feet up, his little red "playmate" igloo next to him within reach. You go, prisoner! Well trainermch you don't know me very well then! That description above is very inefficient. I got the Deluxe George Costanza model Barcalounger! It has a refrigerator built into the side arm of the recliner on the right that allows me to just press in gently and the door pops open and I have access to 6 cold beverages! Also I paid extra for the fold out arm table on the left side arm that will hold a block of cheese or chips and salsa... but I do not double dip my chips! Every meemaw's dream right there.
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Post by dodger on Apr 24, 2021 13:35:28 GMT -5
What does lowest errors for opponents points mean? They don’t serve out or in the net often? When thw other team is serving they make less errors per attempt to side out Winning and losing I am sure you know is based on how many points you or opponent score when serving! So lowest errors is how many points your opponent scores, while they are serving from your errors. Real points = points scored while serving- RE (aces), blocks, transition kills, opponent attack errors , BHE, BE. So Kentucky makes less errors for opponent points. Didnt proof read so hope i got it right: shouldnt be driving and typing at lights! Soory
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Post by trainermch on Apr 24, 2021 13:35:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 13:36:18 GMT -5
Kentucky literally hasn’t lost the serve pass game once this season. I don’t see them getting out passed by Texas. If Texas wins it’s because of their block and OOS scoring. what have their opponents passed? A 1.96. Yikes
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Post by ltdks01 on Apr 24, 2021 13:36:54 GMT -5
what have their opponents passed? A 1.96. Yikes yikes is right lmao
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Post by slxpress on Apr 24, 2021 13:37:19 GMT -5
Yes. They definitely serve tougher than Wisconsin. They're also more athletic/dangerous in the front court, although not as tall. After that, it's a tough comparison. Both setters are elite. Both liberos are elite. I like Wisconsin's backcourt a little better, but Kentucky's setter is the national player of the year, so if anyone wants to give the edge there to Kentucky, that's extremely fair. It's my belief that Wisconsin's Barnes is the best libero in the country, but Kentucky's libero is no slouch. Kentucky is certainly better in the back court than Texas, in any case. But so was Wisconsin. Texas has to do a good job with effective serving. I think as a Texas fan that's my biggest concern. Texas will be aggressive at the service line. If they implode with a huge amount of service errors without much payoff in terms of aces or overall pressure on serve receive, it will make everything a bit nerve wracking. That didn't happen against Wisconsin, and it put Wisconsin on their heels to a significant degree all match long. Wisconsin also was effective in their service game against Texas, but Texas did a much better job of either getting in system anyway, or being effective OOS with their front court. I expect the same thing to happen tonight with Kentucky, but they play the games for a reason. Kentucky is playing top notch volleyball with a tremendous amount of talent. Anything less than the Longhorns' best effort will open up the door for a Wildcat win. IMO Lilley far outplays Hilley, and while Barnes is a good defender, she doesn’t pass like Curry does while also defending well We'll have to agree to disagree. Tonight will make for a fun comparison. But I've been a long time fan of Hilley, so maybe that colors my opinion. I also think Barnes is something more than a good defender. While Curry is also very good, I do not believe she is on Barnes' level. Again, only my opinion. I expect side outs to be slightly easier for Texas to obtain against Kentucky than they were against Wisconsin. If that turns out not to be the case, I'll be glad to admit my error.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 13:38:13 GMT -5
That is the role for which each is being paid. Then you are calling a number of knowledgeable posters on this board idiots. You like quoting yourself and calling yourself out? LOL! No, but seriously, I think what is not being said here is that there was a reasonable logic behind the thinking. I think the reason many people thought playing in the Fall was a disadvantage is because those schools would have fewer matches in the Spring to get back up to speed. The problem is that a lot of schools (i.e., WI, PSU, NE), who only played in the Spring, had a bunch of late season matches canceled due to Covid. This, IMO, negated any advantage they had of playing all their matches in the Spring. I'm curious to see how this issue plays out in the NCAA D1 women's soccer tournament, which begins next week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 13:39:27 GMT -5
IMO Lilley far outplays Hilley, and while Barnes is a good defender, she doesn’t pass like Curry does while also defending well We'll have to agree to disagree. Tonight will make for a fun comparison. But I've been a long time fan of Hilley, so maybe that colors my opinion. I also think Barnes is something more than a good defender. While Curry is also very good, I do not believe she is on Barnes' level. Again, only my opinion. I expect side outs to be slightly easier for Texas to obtain against Kentucky than they were against Wisconsin. If that turns out not to be the case, I'll be glad to admit my error. Curry is a far better passer than Barnes. That has to be taken into account.
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Post by trainermch on Apr 24, 2021 13:39:40 GMT -5
Then you are calling a number of knowledgeable posters on this board idiots. You like quoting yourself and calling yourself out? LOL! No, but seriously, I think what is not being said here is that there was a reasonable logic behind the thinking. I think the reason many people thought playing in the Fall was a disadvantage is because those schools would have fewer matches in the Spring to get back up to speed. The problem is that a lot of schools (i.e., WI, PSU, NE, Stanford), who only played in the Spring, had a bunch of late season matches canceled due to Covid. This, IMO, negated any advantage they had of playing all their matches in the Spring. I'm curious to see how this issue plays out in the NCAA D1 women's soccer tournament, which begins next week. He got into some of prisoner's 12% stock a lil early. He meant to quote the poster who called majority of vt'ers idiots over fall/spring play, or sumsum like that.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 24, 2021 13:45:01 GMT -5
Kentucky literally hasn’t lost the serve pass game once this season. I don’t see them getting out passed by Texas. If Texas wins it’s because of their block and OOS scoring. Or it's because Texas in system scoring is more effective than Kentucky's in system scoring. Which is tied to blocking, but not entirely. Texas has never needed to be an elite passing team. They've just needed to be better than barely adequate. Which they have been this year for once. It's a combination of talent in the backrow and an additional coaching staff member that's made the difference. Doesn't mean Texas wins, but they're not as difficult to watch for fans of good back court play as they have been in other Final Four/national championship game incarnations.
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Post by horns1 on Apr 24, 2021 13:47:03 GMT -5
Somebody tell me about Kentucky's second starting middle blocker. Has she not even been mentioned once in this this thread yet? What will be needed from her tonight for Kentucky to win? Can she block Brionne or Asjia effectively?
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Post by diggerdive on Apr 24, 2021 13:48:12 GMT -5
Somebody tell me about Kentucky's second starting middle blocker. Has she not even been mentioned once in this this thread yet? What will be needed from her tonight for Kentucky to win? Can she block Brionne or Asjia effectively? Objection your honor: leading the witness.
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Post by exit237a on Apr 24, 2021 13:48:33 GMT -5
Well this IS vbprisoner we're talking about here. Everyone does love a man with a plan. I picture him in his Barcalounger, feet up, his little red "playmate" igloo next to him within reach. You go, prisoner! Well trainermch you don't know me very well then! That description above is very inefficient. I got the Deluxe George Costanza model Barcalounger! It has a refrigerator built into the side arm of the recliner on the right that allows me to just press in gently and the door pops open and I have access to 6 cold beverages! Also I paid extra for the fold out arm table on the left side arm that will hold a block of cheese or chips and salsa... but I do not double dip my chips! Props on the multiple solid pulls in one post, including a couple deep cuts. Based on your beverage, snack, and recliner situation I think you should declare this the "Spring of vbprisoner".
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Post by vbsam16 on Apr 24, 2021 13:50:58 GMT -5
Somebody tell me about Kentucky's second starting middle blocker. Has she not even been mentioned once in this this thread yet? What will be needed from her tonight for Kentucky to win? Can she block Brionne or Asjia effectively? She's a freshman and the tallest starter. She probably won't be able to block Butler very much, but she could get some touches because of her height (6'4"). She hits the slide and 1 ball pretty well and does a solid job of closing the block. As long as she's not sticking out in a bad way, I think that's all Kentucky is wanting from her. Do her job, get touches, and stay low error.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 13:51:16 GMT -5
Somebody tell me about Kentucky's second starting middle blocker. Has she not even been mentioned once in this this thread yet? What will be needed from her tonight for Kentucky to win? Can she block Brionne or Asjia effectively? She has good size at 6 foot 4 and a hammer of an arm. We don’t look to her often but when we do she is very capable of delivering. Can she block the Texas middles ? Yes. Can she do that consistently? I do not think so. She isn’t a liability out there though so hopefully she can get solid block touches.
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