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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 6, 2021 1:05:45 GMT -5
I think they are currently below those three. I think Wisconsin and Minnesota are closer to CURRENT premier programs than Penn St. Penn State is still a premier program. Stanford, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, Florida are premier programs. Florida has yet to win a title but they’ve been consistent contenders. Wisconsin and Minnesota are a tier below. |
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Post by raian13 on May 6, 2021 1:12:08 GMT -5
I think they are currently below those three. I think Wisconsin and Minnesota are closer to CURRENT premier programs than Penn St. Tbh I don’t see them even close. |
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Post by raian13 on May 6, 2021 1:13:43 GMT -5
Getting Pritchard and Rollins.. Add Skinner to the mix.. LOL and this is somehow significantly better than Yossi Pressley (2019 National Player of the Year, 2020 1st team) Lauren Harrison (honorable mention all American)? Lets not act like Penn State has been better than Baylor the last two years. I’d take a well rounded and good passer OH over a 3 rotation passing liability. Not taking away from Pressley, she is a dynamic pin hitter. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 6, 2021 1:17:23 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin and Minnesota are closer to CURRENT premier programs than Penn St. Penn State is still a premier program. Stanford, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, Florida are premier programs. Florida has yet to win a title but they’ve been consistent contenders. Wisconsin and Minnesota are a tier below. I have tremendous respect for the Florida program but I see them more on par with Wisconsin and Minnesota than up in that top tier. |
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Post by vbstan123 on May 6, 2021 1:28:22 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin and Minnesota are closer to CURRENT premier programs than Penn St. Penn State is still a premier program. Stanford, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, Florida are premier programs. Florida has yet to win a title but they’ve been consistent contenders. Wisconsin and Minnesota are a tier below. In what world is Florida a tier above Wisconsin and Minnesota. |
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Post by bluepenquin on May 6, 2021 8:54:28 GMT -5
I like the direction of Baylor VB. They are getting great transfers. Their 2022 class looks great. They are in a great location for getting players in the future.
However, I would like to see them succeed w/o Pressley. I real program move must include success after their great player graduates.
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Post by jwvolley on May 6, 2021 9:06:35 GMT -5
I like the direction of Baylor VB. They are getting great transfers. Their 2022 class looks great. They are in a great location for getting players in the future. However, I would like to see them succeed w/o Pressley. I real program move must include success after their great player graduates. Yep. See: Kansas without Payne |
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Post by nevball17 on May 6, 2021 9:28:59 GMT -5
I like the direction of Baylor VB. They are getting great transfers. Their 2022 class looks great. They are in a great location for getting players in the future. However, I would like to see them succeed w/o Pressley. I real program move must include success after their great player graduates. Yep. See: Kansas without Payne And Havilli. That duo was fantastic. They had some other good pieces- Rigdon, Soucy, Wait. |
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Post by bluepenquin on May 6, 2021 9:52:53 GMT -5
I like the direction of Baylor VB. They are getting great transfers. Their 2022 class looks great. They are in a great location for getting players in the future. However, I would like to see them succeed w/o Pressley. I real program move must include success after their great player graduates. Yep. See: Kansas without Payne There are some similarities between Kansas and Baylor. Kansas saw a pretty big spike in recruiting that may have come from the Payne/Havilli team success in 2015. The problem, there is usually a 4 year lead time on recruiting - and that is just to get them in as Freshman. Kansas was unable to maintain a bridge to gap the departure of Payne/Havilli in 2017 - until those top recruits are ready. Then team underperformance risks departure of recruits (see Kansas 2019 class). That said - Kansas is building a pretty good stream of excellent recruiting classes - so there is opportunity for them going forward and potentially something more sustainable. Baylor has been able to use transfers to supplement the Pressley years. COVID extends Pressley for an additional year. The key will be in maintaining momentum until their 2022 and future classes are 'ready'. There is some clear risk. |
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Post by donut on May 6, 2021 10:19:41 GMT -5
I like the direction of Baylor VB. They are getting great transfers. Their 2022 class looks great. They are in a great location for getting players in the future. However, I would like to see them succeed w/o Pressley. I real program move must include success after their great player graduates. See: Edmond and Kentucky  |
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Post by trainermch on May 6, 2021 10:25:37 GMT -5
I like the direction of Baylor VB. They are getting great transfers. Their 2022 class looks great. They are in a great location for getting players in the future. However, I would like to see them succeed w/o Pressley. I real program move must include success after their great player graduates. See: Edmond and Kentucky OK OK exceptions to every rule. lol |
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Post by legolas9 on May 6, 2021 12:16:19 GMT -5
Yep. See: Kansas without Payne There are some similarities between Kansas and Baylor. Kansas saw a pretty big spike in recruiting that may have come from the Payne/Havilli team success in 2015. The problem, there is usually a 4 year lead time on recruiting - and that is just to get them in as Freshman. Kansas was unable to maintain a bridge to gap the departure of Payne/Havilli in 2017 - until those top recruits are ready. Then team underperformance risks departure of recruits (see Kansas 2019 class). That said - Kansas is building a pretty good stream of excellent recruiting classes - so there is opportunity for them going forward and potentially something more sustainable. Baylor has been able to use transfers to supplement the Pressley years. COVID extends Pressley for an additional year. The key will be in maintaining momentum until their 2022 and future classes are 'ready'. There is some clear risk. I agree with all of this, great points. Kansas wasn’t able to bridge to their recruiting classes they built off momentum of final fours, Baylor seems to be doing that. But, I need to see Baylor has substantial success without Pressley |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 6, 2021 13:04:19 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin and Minnesota are closer to CURRENT premier programs than Penn St. Penn State is still a premier program. Stanford, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, Florida are premier programs. Florida has yet to win a title but they’ve been consistent contenders. Wisconsin and Minnesota are a tier below. I don’t know how Minnesota and Wisconsin would be below or at least not equal to PSU and Florida unless your going back more than 5 years. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 13:42:59 GMT -5
CC: Kentucky women's volleyball |
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Post by jwvolley on May 6, 2021 13:50:19 GMT -5
CC: Kentucky women's volleyball Bitter, table for one |
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