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Post by eazy on Apr 28, 2021 10:43:23 GMT -5
but the development and exposure to top competition that happens with Club is not duplicated in High School. Sure, I believe that. For the very top players, who are likely going to major college programs, this is meaningful and makes sense to me. For alllllllllll the rest of them -- ie, the parents who get duped into dumping thousands upon thousands ... for what .... -- that's my big problem with it. |
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Post by zenstudent on Apr 28, 2021 10:50:06 GMT -5
The top athletes would get DI scholarships anyway, just playing for the school teams and being two- or three- sport athletes over the school year. Uh, not sure about that. Top athletes?...maybe, but the development and exposure to top competition that happens with Club is not duplicated in High School. Not even close. Personally, I feel the concept of the three sport high school athlete is antiquated and romanticized. Clearly you've never watched a Crystal Lake-Wheaton St. Francis matchup or Wahlert vs. Hempsted in the good old days. Not sure why you think multi-sport athletes are antiquated. Most kids I've coached are multi-sport athletes and have had no problem finding schools to play at. Is it someplace like Illinois? No because they are all 5'8 or 5'9. They go play D2, D3, and juco. |
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Post by zenstudent on Apr 28, 2021 10:51:56 GMT -5
They should allow unlimited parents/spectators, *if* they all have vaccine passports. No one, without a vaccine passport, should be allowed to attend. Jawohl mein Kommendant. In case you can't tell, I disagree.  Before you insinuate someone is acting like a Nazi, you should learn about what Nazism is. Beyond that, since you probably had no problem with giving your kiddies polio and diptheria vaccinations and that those are mandatory to attend schools in most places, what's the difference---other than your Wehraboo outlook on life? |
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Post by itsallrelative on Apr 28, 2021 11:05:10 GMT -5
The only thought on "no standing" is to avoid having more people at court than should be there....gathering to watch another team, etc.
the tripod thing is ridiculous.
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Post by n00b on Apr 28, 2021 11:09:05 GMT -5
Jawohl mein Kommendant. In case you can't tell, I disagree. :D Before you insinuate someone is acting like a Nazi, you should learn about what Nazism is. Beyond that, since you probably had no problem with giving your kiddies polio and diptheria vaccinations and that those are mandatory to attend schools in most places, what's the difference---other than your Wehraboo outlook on life? And yet these tournaments don’t require proof of a polio vaccine at the door... Tournaments are free to implement this requirement if they choose and either reap the benefits or suffer the financial consequences of that decision. You have the choice to only enter establishments that require proof of vaccine. I’d think you’re in the minority. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Apr 28, 2021 11:16:37 GMT -5
Jawohl mein Kommendant. In case you can't tell, I disagree. Before you insinuate someone is acting like a Nazi, you should learn about what Nazism is. Beyond that, since you probably had no problem with giving your kiddies polio and diptheria vaccinations and that those are mandatory to attend schools in most places, what's the difference---other than your Wehraboo outlook on life? Wehraboo? - Thanks, I learned a new word today. I don't believe that vaccinations should necessarily be mandatory. Now polio and Covid are completely different situations. One polio vaccine should prevent polio over the lifetime of that person, one Covid shot means someone is "covered" for maybe a year and it sounds like another shot will be necessary. Still I don't think we should force people to do something they may not agree with, especially if that action only puts that person at risk i.e. contracting polio We don't make the flu shot mandatory in order to go to a ball game or the movies and I don't think we should do that with Covid shots. Look at how many people are affected by alcohol and alcoholism. Should we go back to prohibition? We know it didn't work the first time but lives are at stake. Should we reexamine that and force people to act accordingly? And wouldn't my Wehraboo outlook mean that I'm favor of the Totalitarian rule of Government? Cuz I don't want that. |
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Post by sevb on Apr 28, 2021 11:17:20 GMT -5
The only thought on "no standing" is to avoid having more people at court than should be there....gathering to watch another team, etc. the tripod thing is ridiculous. The only thing worse than tripods in isles at a vb event is the campsites with 4 blankets and kids sprawled out like they’re in the park...both turn isles into trip hazards... and the looks of utter disgust as anyone dares cross through these sacred and hallowed grounds are not remotely rare... |
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Post by azvolleydad on Apr 28, 2021 11:22:49 GMT -5
That being said many athletes on 3's teams or lower still get school scholarships that are sport related. Sport-related? I'm not sure what you're saying, but I doubt you could name three athletes playing D1 or D2 ball who were on their club's 3s team at 17 or 18. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Apr 28, 2021 11:28:58 GMT -5
Uh, not sure about that. Top athletes?...maybe, but the development and exposure to top competition that happens with Club is not duplicated in High School. Not even close. Personally, I feel the concept of the three sport high school athlete is antiquated and romanticized. Clearly you've never watched a Crystal Lake-Wheaton St. Francis matchup or Wahlert vs. Hempsted in the good old days. Not sure why you think multi-sport athletes are antiquated. Most kids I've coached are multi-sport athletes and have had no problem finding schools to play at. Is it someplace like Illinois? No because they are all 5'8 or 5'9. They go play D2, D3, and juco. No I have not seen any of the match ups of places like Bug Tussle vs Dogpatch but I'm sure they were the games of Legends. I say antiquated because there is so much specialization ( be that good or bad) that happens now. By age 10 my DD was solely volleyball and it definitely made a difference where her skill level and VBIQ are concerned. In the end it's working out well for her ( she will be D1) AND I can say I know that some of her peers have been multisport and it's worked out well for them. Whoops, I have to revise that. She does do high school Track but that's more of a side hustle that she can fit around volleyball. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Apr 28, 2021 11:34:23 GMT -5
That being said many athletes on 3's teams or lower still get school scholarships that are sport related. Sport-related? I'm not sure what you're saying, but I doubt you could name three athletes playing D1 or D2 ball who were on their club's 3s team at 17 or 18. By sports related I mean that they will receive some type of scholarship to play a sport at a school AND I completely agree with your statement. So far at my Club there are/will be two girls that are on a 3's team and WILL play D2 or lower. But D1? No I doubt very highly that you would see that happen. |
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Apr 28, 2021 11:36:35 GMT -5
Before you insinuate someone is acting like a Nazi, you should learn about what Nazism is. Beyond that, since you probably had no problem with giving your kiddies polio and diptheria vaccinations and that those are mandatory to attend schools in most places, what's the difference---other than your Wehraboo outlook on life? Wehraboo? - Thanks, I learned a new word today. I don't believe that vaccinations should necessarily be mandatory. Now polio and Covid are completely different situations. One polio vaccine should prevent polio over the lifetime of that person, one Covid shot means someone is "covered" for maybe a year and it sounds like another shot will be necessary. Still I don't think we should force people to do something they may not agree with, especially if that action only puts that person at risk i.e. contracting polio We don't make the flu shot mandatory in order to go to a ball game or the movies and I don't think we should do that with Covid shots. Look at how many people are affected by alcohol and alcoholism. Should we go back to prohibition? We know it didn't work the first time but lives are at stake. Should we reexamine that and force people to act accordingly? And wouldn't my Wehraboo outlook mean that I'm favor of the Totalitarian rule of Government? Cuz I don't want that. False equivalencies. Logical fallacies. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Apr 28, 2021 11:41:36 GMT -5
Wehraboo? - Thanks, I learned a new word today. I don't believe that vaccinations should necessarily be mandatory. Now polio and Covid are completely different situations. One polio vaccine should prevent polio over the lifetime of that person, one Covid shot means someone is "covered" for maybe a year and it sounds like another shot will be necessary. Still I don't think we should force people to do something they may not agree with, especially if that action only puts that person at risk i.e. contracting polio We don't make the flu shot mandatory in order to go to a ball game or the movies and I don't think we should do that with Covid shots. Look at how many people are affected by alcohol and alcoholism. Should we go back to prohibition? We know it didn't work the first time but lives are at stake. Should we reexamine that and force people to act accordingly? And wouldn't my Wehraboo outlook mean that I'm favor of the Totalitarian rule of Government? Cuz I don't want that. False equivalencies. Logical fallacies. Thank you for your input. |
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Post by karlmalowned on Apr 28, 2021 11:44:38 GMT -5
Are we really still comparing COVID to the flu in April 2021
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Post by eazy on Apr 28, 2021 11:46:16 GMT -5
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Apr 28, 2021 11:54:12 GMT -5
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