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Post by n00b on May 29, 2021 10:30:35 GMT -5
One of the reasons SLC lost triple crown is because their airport isn’t particularly big and airfare to get to the event was out of control. Can’t see them drawing a big field. SLC has a brand new airport, and even the old one was bigger than Kansas City's Nice. The bigger issue was probably the really high demand on a holiday weekend for people going skiing. I don’t see why USAV couldn’t still use Denver, but in April. Maybe a non-Easter weekend in April every year.
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jun 2, 2021 15:14:39 GMT -5
How do either of those rules make them shady or greedy? Perhaps the fire Marshall told them they had to keep their isles clear... It happens... Fire mathsalls change rules almost on the fly... Becuase they can... The FM in Miami when GJNC was there threatened to shut the event down every 45mins because “chairs were out of line”... and because he could... Yes, perhaps the fire Marshall had limits of attendees who were below the posted number of occupants? And those tripods are so fire unfriendly. The standards for holding national qualifiers need to be written in stone so that all clubs can see which tourney's they have to avoid because of obnoxious rules that have nothing to do with fire or occupancy. The Vegas qualifier hosted by SCVA didn't have stupid rules but somehow non volleyball people thought it was a good idea to put the best teams in the nation together with only one referee on the entire court. Totally unfair to the refs, players, fans and the qualifying process. Maybe we should see if national qualifying basketball tournaments would be interested in saving money, common sense and court space but just having one ref for the entire court. That would be better coverage than Vegan gave to every team in the tourney.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 2, 2021 15:19:35 GMT -5
New SLC airport is beautiful. But be prepared to walk. And walk. And walk. Airfare is still much more expensive than KC, and more centrally located. Triple Crown is trying to be a tournament for everyone.. And I think KC is rebuilding their terminals. I get really tired of people in the midwest talking about how the midwest is "centrally located". I think Seattle is "centrally located" because it's close to me. IMO, that has exactly as much validity. It seems to me like it's better to have qualifiers scattered around the country, so that at least one is close to just about everyone.
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Post by n00b on Jun 2, 2021 15:29:16 GMT -5
Airfare is still much more expensive than KC, and more centrally located. Triple Crown is trying to be a tournament for everyone.. And I think KC is rebuilding their terminals. I get really tired of people in the midwest talking about how the midwest is "centrally located". I think Seattle is "centrally located" because it's close to me. IMO, that has exactly as much validity. It seems to me like it's better to have qualifiers scattered around the country, so that at least one is close to just about everyone. Pretty sure “centrally located” means... located in the center. You think Seattle is located in the center of the US? Kansas City is about 4 hours east of the literal geographic center of the US.
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Post by eazy on Jun 2, 2021 15:45:42 GMT -5
Airfare is still much more expensive than KC, and more centrally located. Triple Crown is trying to be a tournament for everyone.. And I think KC is rebuilding their terminals. I get really tired of people in the midwest talking about how the midwest is "centrally located". I think Seattle is "centrally located" because it's close to me. IMO, that has exactly as much validity. It seems to me like it's better to have qualifiers scattered around the country, so that at least one is close to just about everyone. A quick look at the map sure looks like Missouri/Kansas are in the center, which is pretty much exactly Triple Crown. Now if we talk about center of the volleyball talent, it's probably more like Colorado. Northeast is generally pretty weak, Southeast is decent between A5/OT. Obviously Texas/Cali are hotbeds, but the Midwest can hold it's own. It's too bad there isn't a great event in Colorado that could be the crossroads for volleyball talent..
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Post by stevehorn on Jun 2, 2021 15:49:40 GMT -5
Airfare is still much more expensive than KC, and more centrally located. Triple Crown is trying to be a tournament for everyone.. And I think KC is rebuilding their terminals. I get really tired of people in the midwest talking about how the midwest is "centrally located". I think Seattle is "centrally located" because it's close to me. IMO, that has exactly as much validity. It seems to me like it's better to have qualifiers scattered around the country, so that at least one is close to just about everyone. You are actually correct. A location that would be in the center of the population of the United States would be even further east than Kansas City.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jun 2, 2021 18:41:34 GMT -5
Airfare is still much more expensive than KC, and more centrally located. Triple Crown is trying to be a tournament for everyone.. And I think KC is rebuilding their terminals. I get really tired of people in the midwest talking about how the midwest is "centrally located". I think Seattle is "centrally located" because it's close to me. IMO, that has exactly as much validity. It seems to me like it's better to have qualifiers scattered around the country, so that at least one is close to just about everyone. …”centrally located” doesn’t mean “close to me” And Triple Crown isn’t a qualifier.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jun 2, 2021 19:04:58 GMT -5
Airfare is still much more expensive than KC, and more centrally located. Triple Crown is trying to be a tournament for everyone.. And I think KC is rebuilding their terminals. I get really tired of people in the midwest talking about how the midwest is "centrally located". I think Seattle is "centrally located" because it's close to me. IMO, that has exactly as much validity. It seems to me like it's better to have qualifiers scattered around the country, so that at least one is close to just about everyone. Actually, that was the intent, to have a qualifer closer to different areas of the country so that teams from different geographic areas are represented. But a lot of the big clubs decided on going on a quest to get qualified, expenses be damned, hence the caravan going from qualifier to qualifier in March and April.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 2, 2021 19:47:49 GMT -5
Am I missing something? I looked up the USAV website and it said there was a qualifier in Washington and a qualifier in Florida, but almost all the others were concentrated in the Midwest or the Rockies. I guess there was one in Georgia and one in Texas, but those are also pretty close to the Midwest. I suppose I could understand pushing to move another qualifier to the middle of the country if there were not already qualifiers in Nebraska, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky....
Is there really nothing in California? Or am I missing that on the schedule?
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Post by silverchloride on Jun 2, 2021 20:37:32 GMT -5
Am I missing something? I looked up the USAV website and it said there was a qualifier in Washington and a qualifier in Florida, but almost all the others were concentrated in the Midwest or the Rockies. I guess there was one in Georgia and one in Texas, but those are also pretty close to the Midwest. I suppose I could understand pushing to move another qualifier to the middle of the country if there were not already qualifiers in Nebraska, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky.... Is there really nothing in California? Or am I missing that on the schedule? Reno, Vegas......Wait, nope =)
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Post by n00b on Jun 2, 2021 21:26:02 GMT -5
Am I missing something? I looked up the USAV website and it said there was a qualifier in Washington and a qualifier in Florida, but almost all the others were concentrated in the Midwest or the Rockies. I guess there was one in Georgia and one in Texas, but those are also pretty close to the Midwest. I suppose I could understand pushing to move another qualifier to the middle of the country if there were not already qualifiers in Nebraska, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky.... Is there really nothing in California? Or am I missing that on the schedule? The Northern California and Southern California regions each run a qualifier... and put them in Nevada...
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 2, 2021 21:50:14 GMT -5
Am I missing something? I looked up the USAV website and it said there was a qualifier in Washington and a qualifier in Florida, but almost all the others were concentrated in the Midwest or the Rockies. I guess there was one in Georgia and one in Texas, but those are also pretty close to the Midwest. I suppose I could understand pushing to move another qualifier to the middle of the country if there were not already qualifiers in Nebraska, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky.... Is there really nothing in California? Or am I missing that on the schedule? The Northern California and Southern California regions each run a qualifier... and put them in Nevada... Huh. OK then.
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Post by n00b on Jun 2, 2021 22:07:35 GMT -5
The Northern California and Southern California regions each run a qualifier... and put them in Nevada... Huh. OK then. Spokane Reno Las Vegas Denver (until now) Dallas Kansas City Minneapolis Chicago Indianapolis/St Louis Atlanta Orlando Philadelphia I feel like that is a fairly balanced schedule.
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Post by vbfamily on Jun 2, 2021 22:47:07 GMT -5
Spokane Reno Las Vegas Denver (until now) Dallas Kansas City Minneapolis Chicago Indianapolis/St Louis Atlanta Orlando Philadelphia I feel like that is a fairly balanced schedule. I think Phoenix could be a good replacement for Denver. 😉
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Post by gobruins on Jun 3, 2021 8:49:53 GMT -5
Am I missing something? I looked up the USAV website and it said there was a qualifier in Washington and a qualifier in Florida, but almost all the others were concentrated in the Midwest or the Rockies. I guess there was one in Georgia and one in Texas, but those are also pretty close to the Midwest. I suppose I could understand pushing to move another qualifier to the middle of the country if there were not already qualifiers in Nebraska, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky.... Is there really nothing in California? Or am I missing that on the schedule? The Northern California and Southern California regions each run a qualifier... and put them in Nevada... Is that a normal situation, or is that just for this year due to Covid restrictions?
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