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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 15, 2021 16:33:57 GMT -5
Seattle U is a former member and is the most logical WCC choice (urban Jesuit school from which campus you can see the Pacific Ocean - or at least an extension of it). They were a basketball power a couple generations ago before de-prioritizing sports. Gonzaga would also love to have a conference game in Seattle every year. In theory, that's true, but Seattle U is terrible at basketball (saying they were a basketball power "a couple generations ago" is kind of understating the case--they haven't made the tournament since 1969), and Gonzaga (the school that calls the shots in the WCC) supposedly doesn't want them. Just because a school is nearby, that doesn't mean their neighbors want them in the same conference. Just look at Texas A&M and Texas. Now, A&M didn't have enough power to block the Longhorns (and were actually left out of the loop), but Gonzaga certainly has the power in the WCC to block Seattle. ... They haven't made the tourney because they went NAIA. They only returned to the NCAA a decade ago. They need time to build. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 15, 2021 16:46:27 GMT -5
In theory, that's true, but Seattle U is terrible at basketball (saying they were a basketball power "a couple generations ago" is kind of understating the case--they haven't made the tournament since 1969), and Gonzaga (the school that calls the shots in the WCC) supposedly doesn't want them. Just because a school is nearby, that doesn't mean their neighbors want them in the same conference. Just look at Texas A&M and Texas. Now, A&M didn't have enough power to block the Longhorns (and were actually left out of the loop), but Gonzaga certainly has the power in the WCC to block Seattle. ... They haven't made the tourney because they went NAIA. They only returned to the NCAA a decade ago. They need time to build. I don't think Gonzaga is interested in adding a basketball program that "needs time to build." Gonzaga is already unhappy with the number of bad teams in the WCC, which is why they forced the WCC to reduce the number of conference games and allow Gonzaga to keep a greater share of its payouts for advancing in the tournament. Seattle isn't even one of the better programs in the WAC right now. Of course, the same could be said of the other possibilities. There really aren't any great options. I think they may elect to just stay at 9. If Gonzaga wants to play in Seattle, they can schedule real teams there. They already are. |
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Post by bayarea on Oct 16, 2021 0:12:30 GMT -5
Saint Mary's swept Pacific tonight in the only WCC match: -17, -18, -23. Chandler Cowell missed three matches for SMC with an injury, but returned tonight with a team high 11 kills. SMC hit .209 and Pacific hit only .069.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 16, 2021 6:39:33 GMT -5
I hadn't really considered Denver as an option for the WCC until I saw suggest them on Reddit, but I think it could work. That would enable the WCC to maintain a presence in the Rockies after BYU leaves, and Denver is a good academic school. I think their biggest issue is that they have quite a few sports that aren't sponsored by the WCC, even if they're really good at some of them (e.g. hockey). Cal Baptist's total sports package is a more natural fit. Denver also has a pretty weak men's basketball program. Cal Baptist hasn't even fully transitioned to D1 yet, but there's probably more potential there. Hockey and Lacrosse sorta do their own thing conference wise. Denver could switch conferences for their primary sports, and it would not have any effect at all on their Hockey and Lacrosse programs, which would remain in the NCHC/Big East respectively. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 16, 2021 9:09:19 GMT -5
I hadn't really considered Denver as an option for the WCC until I saw suggest them on Reddit, but I think it could work. That would enable the WCC to maintain a presence in the Rockies after BYU leaves, and Denver is a good academic school. I think their biggest issue is that they have quite a few sports that aren't sponsored by the WCC, even if they're really good at some of them (e.g. hockey). Cal Baptist's total sports package is a more natural fit. Denver also has a pretty weak men's basketball program. Cal Baptist hasn't even fully transitioned to D1 yet, but there's probably more potential there. Hockey and Lacrosse sorta do their own thing conference wise. Denver could switch conferences for their primary sports, and it would not have any effect at all on their Hockey and Lacrosse programs, which would remain in the NCHC/Big East respectively. I agree that it could happen, but Denver is also bad at men's basketball, and that's a problem from Gonzaga's perspective (though that also applies to the other options except for Grand Canyon, and I don't see the other university presidents approving a for-profit school). And I think the WCC might want a school that competes in more of the sports that it sponsors than DU does, which is why I think Cal Baptist is probably the leader if they decide to expand. Edit: The thing is, Gonzaga doesn't really need the WCC to be a great conference to be highly successful. They've been to two title games in the last four tournaments and are pulling in some of the best recruits in the country. I think they just don't want to actively make the WCC worse. And while they could always be outvoted, I don't think the other universities want to risk alienating the Zags to the point that they consider leaving. |
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Post by Zazu on Oct 16, 2021 12:16:36 GMT -5
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Post by bayarea on Oct 16, 2021 16:03:33 GMT -5
Santa Clara swept at Gonzaga -21, -16, -22.
Pepperdine took the first set over visiting BYU, but after that it was all BYU: 21-25, 25-19, 25-10, 25-16.
BYU hit .346 and Pepperdine hit .135. BYU had 11 blocks to Pepp's 8. Everyone on BYU played well.
San Francisco and Portland are in a thriller: SF took the first two sets 25-23, 25-12, but Portland took the third 25-22 and leads the fourth 21-20...now 23-20. Looks like it will go 5.
San Francisco is still looking for their first win of the season.
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Post by bayarea on Oct 16, 2021 16:06:26 GMT -5
LMU took the first set over San Diego 25-23, and are at set point in the second 24-23
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Oct 16, 2021 16:09:42 GMT -5
So LMU decided to finally show up lmao
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Post by bayarea on Oct 16, 2021 16:12:33 GMT -5
LMU took the second set 25-23 to go up 2-0...though there have been quite a few reverse sweeps this season, so don't count out SD yet.
HOWEVER, the loss of Pries is huge. In her place, Wilsonr is 0-3-7 and Hester is 0-1-2. Frohling has 14 kills, Lukes has 6 and the MB's have 3 total.
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Post by bayarea on Oct 16, 2021 16:23:38 GMT -5
Portland is up 13-3 in the fifth set, cruising to a reverse sweep. Ah, San Francisco...you were so close to your first win with a 2-0 lead in this match. (Challenge changes the score to 12-4 Portland...)
Portland takes the fifth set 15-9 and the 3-2 match.
San Diego showing signs of life with a 14-10 lead in the third set over LMU, though they are down 0-2.
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Oct 16, 2021 16:25:32 GMT -5
This LMU announcer is struggling lol
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Post by bayarea on Oct 16, 2021 16:34:42 GMT -5
Third set was all San Diego 25-16, though the offense is almost entirely Frohling.
Let's set what set 4 will bring.
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Post by bluecougarnation on Oct 16, 2021 17:05:10 GMT -5
This LMU announcer is struggling lol Oh my gosh..its so painful listening to her...i have it on mute... |
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Oct 16, 2021 17:33:11 GMT -5
aaaand San Diego survives in 5!!!
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