WCC Fall 2021 Thread

[Zazu]

Nov 15, 2021 17:36:13 GMT -5 bbg95 said:

Nov 15, 2021 17:19:19 GMT -5 Zazu said:

I do not agree with this week’s WCC Players of the week.

Offensive: Rachel Ahrens.

Defensive: Kenzie Koerber

What in the world? I can see a case for Ahrens being made, but Koerber for defensive, no, I don’t think so. Some of the nominations (or lack therof) are puzzling to me. I don’t think I like the way this is done. Frohling was a much better choice for defensive player, but was only nominated for offensive. Yet I think her two matches were more impressive than Ahrens offensively. I also don’t understand why Eschenberg wasn’t even nominated.

Yeah, I don't agree with either. Ahrens was better than anyone else on her team against BYU, but that isn't saying much. As for DPOW, I thought it was a tossup between Grace Frohling and Jadyn Tubbs. Koerber had 10 blocks and 13 digs. Maybe she was getting credit for that massive service run? 

It feels like the decision-making went something like this:  BYU won both matches, so we have to reward someone on their team, so we’ll go with Koerber for defensive. And then Pepperdine upset San Diego, so we’ve got to give that to Ahrens, even though Grace Frohling was better over the two matches.

[bbg95]

Nov 15, 2021 17:45:15 GMT -5 Zazu said:

Nov 15, 2021 17:36:13 GMT -5 bbg95 said:

Yeah, I don't agree with either. Ahrens was better than anyone else on her team against BYU, but that isn't saying much. As for DPOW, I thought it was a tossup between Grace Frohling and Jadyn Tubbs. Koerber had 10 blocks and 13 digs. Maybe she was getting credit for that massive service run? 

It feels like the decision-making went something like this:  BYU won both matches, so we have to reward someone on their team, so we’ll go with Koerber for defensive. And then Pepperdine upset San Diego, so we’ve got to give that to Ahrens, even though Grace Frohling was better over the two matches.

If they wanted to give an award to someone from BYU, they could just go OPOW for Eschenberg or Bower. Ahrens makes zero sense to me. I mean, she hit .140 against BYU. As I said in the awards thread, I disqualified all Pepperdine players from consideration this week due to their performance in Provo.

[Zazu]

Nov 15, 2021 17:57:38 GMT -5 bbg95 said:

Nov 15, 2021 17:45:15 GMT -5 Zazu said:

It feels like the decision-making went something like this:  BYU won both matches, so we have to reward someone on their team, so we’ll go with Koerber for defensive. And then Pepperdine upset San Diego, so we’ve got to give that to Ahrens, even though Grace Frohling was better over the two matches.

If they wanted to give an award to someone from BYU, they could just go OPOW for Eschenberg or Bower. Ahrens makes zero sense to me. I mean, she hit .140 against BYU. As I said in the awards thread, I disqualified all Pepperdine players from consideration this week due to their performance in Provo.

But how can they overlook a 27-kill performance from Ahrens? Never mind that Grace Frohling had two superb performances during the week, and Ahrens was just so-so in her first match. Those 27 kills are everything, aren't they? And since we can't overlook such an amazing one-match performance, we are stuck giving a defensive player of the week award to a BYU player no matter who she is because it doesn't make sense that no one one BYU gets an award after the week they had. I dislike weeks like this in the WCC. If they only did a player of the week, Frohling would have had it hands down, but somehow she isn't good enough for either one. That's not right in my book.

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A friendly reminder that at the end of the day, these awards are quite meaningless in the grand scheme of things

[bbg95]

Nov 15, 2021 19:00:05 GMT -5 Zazu said:

Nov 15, 2021 17:57:38 GMT -5 bbg95 said:

If they wanted to give an award to someone from BYU, they could just go OPOW for Eschenberg or Bower. Ahrens makes zero sense to me. I mean, she hit .140 against BYU. As I said in the awards thread, I disqualified all Pepperdine players from consideration this week due to their performance in Provo.

But how can they overlook a 27-kill performance from Ahrens? Never mind that Grace Frohling had two superb performances during the week, and Ahrens was just so-so in her first match. Those 27 kills are everything, aren't they? And since we can't overlook such an amazing one-match performance, we are stuck giving a defensive player of the week award to a BYU player no matter who she is because it doesn't make sense that no one one BYU gets an award after the week they had. I dislike weeks like this in the WCC. If they only did a player of the week, Frohling would have had it hands down, but somehow she isn't good enough for either one. That's not right in my book.

I mean, they'll be overlooking someone almost no matter what. I would have been okay with Frohling winning either award. Just my opinion, but I need my players of the week to play really well in both matches (unless their team only plays one), not just one of them. That's why I didn't consider Ahrens. The only way I would break that rule is if there was literally no one who played really well in both of their matches. I haven't run into that issue yet.

[Zazu]

Nov 15, 2021 19:17:06 GMT -5 @hunterjake said:

A friendly reminder that at the end of the day, these awards are quite meaningless in the grand scheme of things

And usually I really don't much care either. But for some reason today this really bugged me. Maybe it's because my back has been bothering me and so I'm easily upset by stupid things.

[Zazu]

 Current WCC Standings

School Conf CPct Overall Pct Streak BYU 15-0 1.000 25-1 0.962 W18 San Diego 13-2 0.867 19-5 0.792 L1 Pepperdine 11-4 0.733 19-5 0.792 W1 Pacific 9-6 0.600 12-14 0.462 W1 Saint Mary's 8-7 0.533 14-10 0.583 L1 Santa Clara     6-8 0.429 10-14 0.417 W2 Loyola Marymount 6-9 0.400 15-10 0.600 L6 Gonzaga 4-12 0.250 8-19 0.296 W1 Portland 2-12 0.143 5-18 0.217 L6 San Francisco 0-14 0.000 0-22 0.000 L22

Week 9 Matches
Thursday Nov 18, 2021 | 7pm PT
BYU @ Pacific
San Diego @ Saint Mary's
San Francisco @ Pepperdine
Santa Clara @ Loyola Marymount

Saturday, Nov 20, 2021 | 12pm PT
Portland @ Gonzaga
San Diego @ Pacific
Santa Clara @ Pepperdine

Saturday, Nov 20, 2021 | 1pm PT
BYU @ Saint Mary's

San Francisco @ Loyola Marymount

Week 10 Matches
Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 | 3pm PT

Gonzaga @ Pepperdine

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 | 7pm PT

BYU @ San Diego

Portland @ Loyola Marymount

San Francisco @ Saint Mary's

Santa Clara @ Pacific

[Zazu]

WCC Conference Week 9 Thursday, November 18, 2021 10pm ET | 9pm CT | 8pm MT | 7pm PT | 5pm HT

Firestone Fieldhouse | Malibu, CA 0-14, 0-22 San Francisco 10th WCC  @  11-4, 19-5 Pepperdine 3rd WCC Last Meeting: 9/23/21, San Francisco, CA | Pepperdine 3-0 (25-13, 25-20, 25-13) StatBroadcast | WCC Network Final Score USF 0 7 13 15 PEP 3 25 25 25 San Francisco Roster Front Row Back Row S 2 Aylen Ayub S 2 Aylen Ayub OH 3 Shyia Richardson OH 3 Shyia Richardson 11 Sophie Sydenham 11 Sophie Sydenham MB 6 Katie Wagstaff L 10 Letizia Aquilino | 5 Sara Denham 16 Lauren Perri 10 Letizia Aquilino | 5 Sara Denham RS 9 Hannah Kinnison DS 5 Sara Denham | Bruna Correa (SS) OH 11 Sophie Sydenham OH 11 Sophie Sydenham 10 Letizia Aquilino 10 Letizia Aquilino MB 12 Orsula Staka L 10 Letizia Aquilino | 5 Sara Denham Pepperdine Roster Front Row Back Row S 2 Isabel Zelaya S 2 Isabel Zelaya OH 1 Grace Chillingworth DS 21 Kayla Joyce MB 9 Rosie Ballo L 6 Madison Shields RS 11 Emma Ammerman DS 16 Trinity Stanger OH 18 Rachel Ahrens OH 18 Rachel Ahrens MB 12 Meg Brown L 6 Madison Shields

[Zazu]

WCC Conference Week 9 Thursday, November 18, 2021 10pm ET | 9pm CT | 8pm MT | 7pm PT | 5pm HT

Gersten Pavilion | Los Angeles, CA               6-8, 10-14 Santa Clara 6th WCC     @    6-9, 15-10 Loyola Marymount 7th WCC Last Meeting: 9/23/21, Santa Clara, CA | LMU 3-1 (25-22, 21-25, 25-22, 25-15) StatBroadcast | WCC Network Final Score SCU 3 25 28 19 26 LMU 1 22 26 25 24 Santa Clara Roster Front Row Back Row S 15 Nive Tuileta S 15 Nive Tuileta OH 4 Nani Spaar | 19 Sophia Tulino DS 6 Grace Wee MB 18 Alex Anthony L 9 Kat Georgiadis | Anna Stucchi (SS) RS 7 Michelle Shaffer RS 7 Michelle Shaffer OH 2 Julie Sangiacomo OH 2 Julie Sangiacomo MB 22 Lexi Poppinga L 9 Kat Georgiadis LMU Roster Front Row Back Row S 4 Isabella Bareford S 4 Isabella Bareford OH 13 Rose Booth OH 13 Rose Booth MB 20 Jacquelyn Moore L 11 Mary Shroll RS 5 Audrey Klemp DS 12 Annabella Pirrotta OH 24 Megan Rice OH 24 Megan Rice MB 17 Emmelyn Walters L 11 Mary Shroll

[Zazu]

WCC Conference Week 9 Thursday, November 18, 2021 10pm ET | 9pm CT | 8pm MT | 7pm PT | 5pm HT

Alex G. Spanos Center | Stockton, CA 15-0, 25-1 BYU 1st WCC   @   9-6, 12-14 Pacific 4th WCC Last Meeting: 9/23/21, Provo, UT | BYU 3-0 (25-13, 25-12, 25-17) Volleytalk Match Thread Sidearm Stats | WCC Network Final Score BYU 3 25 25 29 PAC 0 20 17 27

[Zazu]

WCC Conference Week 9 Thursday, November 18, 2021 10pm ET | 9pm CT | 8pm MT | 7pm PT | 5pm HT

UCU Pavilion | Moraga, CA 13-2, 19-5 San Diego 2nd WCC  @  8-7, 14-10 Saint Mary's 5th WCC Last Meeting: 9/25/21, San Diego, CA | San Diego 3-0 (25-22, 25-19, 25-13) Volleytalk Match Thread Sidearm Stats | WCC Network Final Score USD 3 22 25 25 25 SMC 1 25 23 16 22

[Zazu]

Pepperdine no surprise is absolutely crushing San Francisco in set one, 22-7

Santa Clara up 18-16 over Loyola Marymount in the 1st.

BYU up 15-11 on Pacific in the 1st. But Pacific is challenging touch call. Doesn't look like it was touched, so may be reversed.

San Diego up 19-17 on Saint Mary's in the 1st.

[Zazu]

Pepperdine coasted home to a 25-7 1st-set win over San Francisco. Pepp leads 1-0

Up 15-8 in the 2nd.

Missed the end up the Santa Clara @ Loyola Marymount match. Stats show Santa Clara up 1-0, but the first set score stopped at 22-22. LMU up 10-7 in the 2nd.

Saint Mary's trailed but came back to win the first set against San Diego, 25-20.

BYU held off Pacific 25-20 to win the first set.

[practicesafesets]

Wow, 22 match losing streak for USF. HC Silva is gonna need to let some players go and get some solid transfers or internationals if he wants to turn the program around sooner than later.

[Zazu]

Oh boy, LMU loses the second set in overtime, 26-28, after battling neck and neck with Santa Clara the whole way. That seems to be the theme for this season. Down 0-2 at home to Santa Clara.