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Post by speegs13 on Jun 14, 2021 16:34:56 GMT -5
USA-Turkey-Russia all play each other on the last three days of pool play - will be fascinating to watch how that plays out.
I'm feeling much better about the US versus Turkey, but stranger things have happened
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 16:35:06 GMT -5
If it wasn't for Larson's poor receiving in set 2, it seems we'd have swept.
She recovered quickly, though, so I'm not concerned. That was an anomaly of a set for her.
Anyway, I'm glad to see the USA clawing their way back into set 2, it was a good test.
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Post by onemcsl on Jun 14, 2021 16:37:19 GMT -5
I think there were some positive signs for Turkey as well, a lot of moments on the match were pretty even and good level. But as soon as the match goes in favor of USA, Gio makes a bunch of subs that don't make sense. (4 players at once and thus some unnecessary subs) Meliha's offense is a liability, Hande and Zehra had some physical issues here so I don't blame their mediocre play. USA is looking amazing, Jordan, Jordan and Washington were in particular amazing today and Wong Orangtes is an amazing libero. Şeyma aint it for Turkish bench but Gio refuses to out Derya or Ilkin (put her even as libero  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 16:37:32 GMT -5
The Goods
JWO is covering the whole Mediterranean out there and passing well.
Haleigh Washington
USA's blocking & block touch
Literally anything Jordan Thompson does
MBH's attacking
Poulter bettering bad passes
The Bads
Some connections still aren't there/Poulter's pace is too fast or too low
Serving Errors
Not as many middle attacks as there could be
Larson's passing
Too many miscommunications
Did I say serving errors?
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Jun 14, 2021 16:37:54 GMT -5
I don’t think this Turkey team is going to get out of Pool B. They look like such a mess and their lefts just cannot put up 4 sets of consistent play. I'm not sure either, but I just don't want to bet against them. They are always a mess. Russia also might be gaining a little momentum at the right time and might be a little underestimated. They are also a mess, but with decent middles and 4 pins who all bring some game (Voronkova/Kosh/Gonch/Federovtseva) Yeah, frankly I just trust Federovtseva more than I do the Turkish pins. I think they’ve plateaued and find this board to be irrationally high on Turkey. Russia seems to be improving as the tournament progresses and a lot of their core has Olympic experience unlike these unstable Turkish girls. |
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Post by onemcsl on Jun 14, 2021 16:39:38 GMT -5
Also I'm biased but please..Turkey>Russia Don't underestimate Gio's teams, Russia is so often dead on court with barely any energy. They look better now with Malova but oh well... Pool B in general is a very tough group though. It's OG so prepare for some things happening you weren't expecting either  anything can happen it's a short tournament |
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Post by trojansc on Jun 14, 2021 16:40:00 GMT -5
USA-Turkey-Russia all play each other on the last three days of pool play - will be fascinating to watch how that plays out. I'm feeling much better about the US versus Turkey, but stranger things have happened The very first match of the Olympics is Russia/Italy. I'm hoping Egonu/Italy start slow, Russia wins a shocker, and sets the tone for a wild ride.  |
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Post by tamz on Jun 14, 2021 16:40:13 GMT -5
Ok, I'ma celebrate this nice win right now. Later tonight I will lay out my blood pressure meds for when the men take the stage tomorrow Lol, if Matt Anderson isn’t playing tomorrow, I think it goes downhill to begin with. Meds not needed in that case. |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jun 14, 2021 16:40:41 GMT -5
Turkey's strength in serve kind of hits empty against good receiving teams like USA though.
Against Russia they have a good chance. It's all how the relative strengths and weaknesses play up against one another.
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jun 14, 2021 16:41:53 GMT -5
USA-Turkey-Russia all play each other on the last three days of pool play - will be fascinating to watch how that plays out. I'm feeling much better about the US versus Turkey, but stranger things have happened The very first match of the Olympics is Russia/Italy. I'm hoping Egonu/Italy start slow, Russia wins a shocker, and sets the tone for a wild ride. Russia wins a shocker, they lose to China and USA, and then the rest of group B arranges the necessary results to send them home? Sounds good to me! |
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Post by speegs13 on Jun 14, 2021 16:43:29 GMT -5
USA-Turkey-Russia all play each other on the last three days of pool play - will be fascinating to watch how that plays out. I'm feeling much better about the US versus Turkey, but stranger things have happened The very first match of the Olympics is Russia/Italy. I'm hoping Egonu/Italy start slow, Russia wins a shocker, and sets the tone for a wild ride. Meanwhile the USA opens with Argentina and closes with Italy. Pool B is always wild (especially London I thought) |
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Post by onemcsl on Jun 14, 2021 16:44:08 GMT -5
Turkey's strength in serve kind of hits empty against good receiving teams like USA though. Against Russia they have a good chance. It's all how the relative strengths and weaknesses play up against one another. This. 😂 Russia can't pass at all. They literally have no one that can. Parubets might come to OG but that's after a 1 year break and injury almost... |
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Post by basil on Jun 14, 2021 16:44:33 GMT -5
USA Stats:
Thompson: 14k, 7e, 36 att (.194); 5 blks; 1 s.errs; 7 digs
Larson: 13k, 27 att (.482); 2 s.errs; 11 digs
Bartsch-Hackley: 12k, 3e, 26 att (.346); 1 blk; 1 ace, 3 s.errs; 6 digs
Akinradewo: 9k, 1e, 13 att (.615); 1 blk; 2 s.errs; 5 digs
Washington: 8k, 10 att (.800); 2 blks; 2 aces, 1 s.err; 1 dig
Poulter: 1 att (.000); 1 blk; 1 ace; 12 digs
Wong-Orantes: 13 digs
Drews: 5k, 1e, 9 att (.444); 2 digs
Hancock: 1 s.err; 3 digs
Hill: 1 s.err; 2 digs
Reception Stats:
Wong-Orantes: 9 successful, 1 error, 10 so-so, 20 att (40%)
Larson: 9 successful, 3 error, 15 so-so, 27 att (22.2%)
Bartsch-Hackley: 7 successful, 1 error, 11 so-so, 19 att (31.6%)
These are the FIVB stats, so slight grain of salt. A lot of service errors, but I'd argue the payoff was pretty worth it. Cansu was pretty much always on the run and Turkey was under a ton of pressure, even if the ace numbers don't correlate. I thought Thompson's hit percentage was higher than what the stats say, but she was also just taking some good swings on garbage balls and Turkey was digging them. A ton of balance across the net, which we love to see. The Poulter-Akinradewo connection felt worse than the stats indicate, but I also think Poulter was trying to force the middle a ton from off the net. When she was on the net, it was clean. I think Larson had that dip in the second but other than that she was solid, as was MBH. Just clean up our tip coverage a little, though it was much better in sets 3 and 4.
Edit: I'm not sure how much more y'all want to set the middle...Turkey's middle blockers were consistently late because they were hanging around and that's what we want.
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jun 14, 2021 16:46:04 GMT -5
Turkey's strength in serve kind of hits empty against good receiving teams like USA though. Against Russia they have a good chance. It's all how the relative strengths and weaknesses play up against one another. This. 😂 Russia can't pass at all. They literally have no one that can. Parubets might come to OG but that's after a 1 year break and injury almost... their passing sucks even with Parubets.. this is also part of the reason why I think they were able to take Serbia to five at the ECh two years ago (and even led in the final set) -- Serbia's reception is .. something interesting. Unfortunately for Turkey Boskovic was simply too good.
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jun 14, 2021 16:46:37 GMT -5
The very first match of the Olympics is Russia/Italy. I'm hoping Egonu/Italy start slow, Russia wins a shocker, and sets the tone for a wild ride. Meanwhile the USA opens with Argentina and closes with Italy. Pool B is always wild (especially London I thought) where are you guys seeing the schedule? |
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