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Post by sonofdogman on Jun 17, 2021 23:18:36 GMT -5
I am more than willing to help grow the sport, including spending some coin. But I'm not sure the AVP is really helping to grow the sport or support the players in a manner consistent with a pro tour demanding an exclusivity clause in its contract. So why should I help financially support the AVP?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jun 18, 2021 7:03:17 GMT -5
I agree but to me it's on us fans to make the product something that makes $ for every event. Donald is a business man so if every event he was running was making a lot of money I would assume we would have a lot more events. I hope they have ticketed seats for the entire event. We the fans need to sell out these seats and sell them out quickly. The the fans can support the AVP and buy seats/merchandise the more successful the AVP will be. I think the days of fans showing up sitting there all day and not spending money on tickets/merchandise to support the AVP need to end. We need to be willing to spend on tickets and more to help the growth of the sport. I agree, but I also need the AVP to put forth not a little, but a lot more effort. Understandably you can see why they are more concerned with their grass series and avp next events because they clearly don't have anywhere near the overhead compared to the return on these events. But that doesn't mean they have offered any transparency about how they are planning to adjust these events carrying into a new era of post covid events where everyone is price gouging to make up 18 months worth of lost profits tomorrow. Let fans in on why you are doing certain things, what the plan is for ticketing or entry fees, etc. But what can we expect when they don't even keep their own athletes informed. And to buying stuff at the store, I have held a pretty solid stance on this that their merch sucks balls and its clear they could not care less about merch money when getting even just a little creative would drive sales in each different city.
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Post by midwestbeachbum on Jun 18, 2021 16:09:15 GMT -5
What are some plans that might work.
I feel like a stop at Grand Sands would be legit, a stop in Louisiana, Tennessee, Florida, etc...
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Post by volleyballjim on Jun 18, 2021 16:45:24 GMT -5
2020/21 is a bad combination to evaluate the essence of where the AVP WAS going in late 2019. I mean, every event was packed, though only 8, I guess, but obviously going to break through (AND charge admission) . . then '20, an Olympics cutting the season and a California freeze till half way through June AND people STILL wearing masks all over open regions AND a volume of unvaccinated who "understand science" (but haven't actually read any white papers on anything . . . WITH such a playing field, tough call on ANYTHING. I am sure '22 will be back to normal (barring any problem areas (but those will probably be more rural areas/LOW vaccination areas). THEN back to growth...No other areas are doing any great things, IMHO . . . Care to rent a car? Yeah, I didn't think so . . . :-(
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Post by beavis on Jun 18, 2021 20:05:21 GMT -5
Here's where everyone accuses me, for the umpteenth time, of being Donald Sun's lackey. I'd love to know how many of the folks who continually hammer the AVP (in this case, for only having 3 tournaments in an Olympic and post-Covid season) actually are going to any of these three tournaments. We're just glad to have some live volleyball to attend, and these 3 tour stops, when combined with the 4 or 5 AVP Next tournaments on this year's schedule, have made for a pretty awesome season. The merch sucks. Only 3 tourneys sucks. Paying some undisclosed entry fee sucks. How about you suck? Most of us will be happy to pay a $10-20 daily admission fee to watch 10 hours of high level volleyball, especially if it means helping an entity which appears to be actually sticking with the Tour, year after year, and trying to make a go of it. The inevitable "livestream/announcers suck" won't be far behind, I'm sure. So take the time, put up the money, and exert the effort to put together a tour with 15 stops, and see how long that lasts. In the meantime, we'll be happy that there are tournaments to travel to, that Manhattan Beach is back, and that they are not simply having three non-attended tournaments on some parking lot in Long Beach.
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Post by schmidty on Jun 19, 2021 11:44:06 GMT -5
For those who haven't seen it yet and plan on going to the events this year (looking at 2 of the 3 on my end) you can become a member for early access to VIP tickets. Big for those who have already started making travel plans http://instagram.com/p/CQRgPupBo5o
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Post by sonofdogman on Jun 20, 2021 23:05:13 GMT -5
I plan going to Atlanta stop.
And I think the idea of becoming a member of the AVP sucks. The AVP is a company. A privately held one. You cannot become a member of a company. The branding on that initiative.... sucks.
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Post by guest2 on Jun 20, 2021 23:39:24 GMT -5
For those who haven't seen it yet and plan on going to the events this year (looking at 2 of the 3 on my end) you can become a member for early access to VIP tickets. Big for those who have already started making travel plans http://instagr.am/p/CQRgPupBo5o Wonder who made the choice that the AVP promo video should allot more time to Spikeball discounts than action clips from AVP matches.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jun 21, 2021 7:09:30 GMT -5
For those who haven't seen it yet and plan on going to the events this year (looking at 2 of the 3 on my end) you can become a member for early access to VIP tickets. Big for those who have already started making travel plans http://instagr.am/p/CQRgPupBo5o Wonder who made the choice that the AVP promo video should allot more time to Spikeball discounts than action clips from AVP matches. I mean, probably spikeball and the check they cut?
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Post by ajm on Jun 21, 2021 8:19:47 GMT -5
Wonder who made the choice that the AVP promo video should allot more time to Spikeball discounts than action clips from AVP matches. I mean, probably spikeball and the check they cut? Maybe Spikeball can be the title sponsor of the AVP tour? Seriously though, it’s a bizarre advertising strategy to be using another game besides volleyball to attract fans to an AVP event. Kind of undermines your own product.
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Post by butteryhands on Jun 21, 2021 11:49:05 GMT -5
This membership feels similar to that nonsense that p1440 tried to convince everyone to buy.
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Post by bombsaway on Jun 21, 2021 12:50:35 GMT -5
If a vacuum opens up (AVP Collapse), do you think a new domestic tour would rise to take its place or finally FIVB involvement in the USA?
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Post by schmidty on Jun 21, 2021 16:14:02 GMT -5
From the AVPs most recent email and FAQ avp.com/news/avp-2021-season-ticket-info/:"While the AVP Gold Series Manhattan Beach Open and the AVP Gold Series Chicago Open will have free General Admission for fans, the AVP Gold Series Atlanta Open will REQUIRE a ticket for anyone to enter the venue." I wonder what went behind that decision for Atlanta to be the only one fully ticketed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2021 16:22:30 GMT -5
From the AVPs most recent email and FAQ avp.com/news/avp-2021-season-ticket-info/:"While the AVP Gold Series Manhattan Beach Open and the AVP Gold Series Chicago Open will have free General Admission for fans, the AVP Gold Series Atlanta Open will REQUIRE a ticket for anyone to enter the venue." I wonder what went behind that decision for Atlanta to be the only one fully ticketed not on a public beach
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Post by beavis on Jun 23, 2021 13:46:31 GMT -5
So the rise in the AVP membership fee from $20 to $40 would seem to be ill-timed, but I think it depends on who you are. If you are any type of player (who might play in any AVP First/AVP Next/AVP America affiliated event or even juniors events), you need to be an AVP member to register anyway, and I think that costs $20 per year. So for them, its not a bad deal. For the average fan who attends a tourney or two a year, it also seems like an OK deal, because you get first dibs on VIP seats and/or boxes if you are so inclined, plus AVP merch and affiliated vendor discounts (for whatever that might be worth). I would agree that if you never go to or play in a tourney, or never buy anything, you would not become a member unless it is to simply show some support for the AVP and its mission.
Did anyone yet figure out where the Atlanta event will be held? We are definitely going to Manhattan and Chicago, but the heat and humidity in August in Atlanta, when combined with the fact that it will not be held on an actual beach, make this one a toss-up.
By the way, we may spring for a box, if any are available, in Chicago, so if anyone wants to share the cost with us to make it more affordable (there are 3 or 4 of us so far), please let me know!
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