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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 10:31:32 GMT -5
He imposed a travel ban TO Europe? He was heavily criticized??
He didn't do jack %*$#.
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Post by dc on Jun 18, 2021 10:47:01 GMT -5
Poor Donny was heavily criticized? Lol
Of course he was criticized, he was an incompetent, narcissistic, idiot.
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Post by dc on Jun 18, 2021 10:50:50 GMT -5
I didn’t even mention ridiculously corrupt.
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Jun 18, 2021 10:59:57 GMT -5
I didn’t even mention ridiculously corrupt. Do you think he was wrong to impose the travel ban?
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Post by bluepenquin on Jun 18, 2021 11:29:40 GMT -5
He was the wrong person for this crisis. But I also don't think it would have materially changed with another President.
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Post by moody on Jun 18, 2021 11:38:05 GMT -5
He was the wrong person for this crisis. But I also don't think it would have materially changed with another President. Trump closed his eyes and tried to wish Covid-19 away. He lied about the severity of the disease and just how contagious it was. He highjacked the Covid press conferences and suggested injecting bleach and sticking a UV light up your ass. As a country we experienced the most cases and most deaths in the world. How in the world do you think he did as well as anyone else could have?
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 18, 2021 12:06:47 GMT -5
A few other countries, mostly small, had more cases/capita than the US. (One of them, notably, was Sweden, who famously or infamously tried the "no shutdown" approach and was a darling of the right wingers here on this board, but who they don't talk much about anymore.)
There were also some countries that had more deaths per capita than the US, including Italy (who was unluckily hit hard very early), some of the former Warsaw Pact countries in Eastern Europe and the former Yugoslavia, Brazil and Peru and Argentina, and the UK.
The difference between deaths/capita and cases/capita between the US and the UK is so striking that it probably means a serious difference in either what counts as COVID deaths or what counts as COVID cases or else the UK got hit by a really deadly variant or something like that.
But by any measure, the US was one of the most hard-hit countries, hit harder than our neighbors Mexico and Canada.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jun 18, 2021 13:32:34 GMT -5
Most countries haven't counted deaths like the US - or were so bombarded they were unable to keep up. There is no way India's numbers are in the ballpark right - their total deaths have greatly exceeded the US. Russia, Brazil, Mexico - no way they are counting all their deaths. No way those countries had it better than the US.
Canada locked down their border.
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Post by donut on Jun 18, 2021 13:38:33 GMT -5
lol thank god we don't use Russia, Brazil and Mexico as our benchmarks...
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Jun 18, 2021 13:53:44 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 18, 2021 14:37:23 GMT -5
Why would you assume it was "right-leaning"? Anyway, it's not right-leaning. The Poynter Institute is a non-profit organization for journalism and journalism education. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynter_Institute
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Jun 18, 2021 14:47:00 GMT -5
Why would you assume it was "right-leaning"? Anyway, it's not right-leaning. The Poynter Institute is a non-profit organization for journalism and journalism education. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynter_InstituteOnly cuz it didn't try to nail Trump to the wall on this issue. lol
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Post by donut on Jun 18, 2021 15:02:13 GMT -5
not surprised a conservative isn't aware of the most famous fact-checking website
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Post by Mocha on Jun 18, 2021 15:37:29 GMT -5
Most countries haven't counted deaths like the US - or were so bombarded they were unable to keep up. There is no way India's numbers are in the ballpark right - their total deaths have greatly exceeded the US. Russia, Brazil, Mexico - no way they are counting all their deaths. No way those countries had it better than the US. Canada locked down their border. It was easier for Canada to lock down the border. Businesses on the U.S. side benefit more from Canadians crossing the border to buy cheaper goods and pick up their Amazon deliveries without paying exorbitant international shipping charges.
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Post by moody on Jun 18, 2021 16:20:17 GMT -5
Most countries haven't counted deaths like the US - or were so bombarded they were unable to keep up. There is no way India's numbers are in the ballpark right - their total deaths have greatly exceeded the US. Russia, Brazil, Mexico - no way they are counting all their deaths. No way those countries had it better than the US. Canada locked down their border. That's just another Trump loving lame excuse. The US has so many covid-19 deaths and infections because Trump has a horrible response. It's not about the count, it's not that the US "was hit harder than other countries." It was Trump's incredibly poor response.
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