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Post by SmokeDogg on Sept 26, 2021 1:35:43 GMT -5
well, now we know Bakersfield was a fraud with the uber-soft schedule. good win for Fullerton I wanted to say yesterday that Bakersfield was a pretty good team. However, the people posting on this board would not believe that any team Fullerton beat could be good. Well Bakersfield beat Long Beach, some of you thought Long Beach might be the class of the conference, The thing that really got me was the continual put down of Fullerton. Yes we had some bad years, but two years ago our top 2 setters were injured, our rt side, a senior was injured. I don't expect to finish in the top 4, but somewhere in the middle. Regarding today's game. CPSLO was just to tall for us. But if you were lucky enough to see the game, you saw a team with hart! I'm proud of the coaches and players. Keep fighting Titans!
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Post by noblesol on Sept 26, 2021 2:59:30 GMT -5
well, now we know Bakersfield was a fraud with the uber-soft schedule. good win for Fullerton I wanted to say yesterday that Bakersfield was a pretty good team. However, the people posting on this board would not believe that any team Fullerton beat could be good. Well Bakersfield beat Long Beach, some of you thought Long Beach might be the class of the conference, The thing that really got me was the continual put down of Fullerton. Yes we had some bad years, but two years ago our top 2 setters were injured, our rt side, a senior was injured. I don't expect to finish in the top 4, but somewhere in the middle. Regarding today's game. CPSLO was just to tall for us. But if you were lucky enough to see the game, you saw a team with hart! I'm proud of the coaches and players. Keep fighting Titans! Fullerton is feisty, sound defensively, and I really like Schuster, their 5'7" setter. They aren't big upfront, but they get lots of soft blocks and transition to a good swing. Not sure why they haven't signed Polster to a longer contract.
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 26, 2021 4:02:08 GMT -5
Wish more people would identify Cal Poly San Luis Obispo as “SLO” like most Californians do.
Dumb pet peeve but only because there are more than one Cal Poly in the State.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 26, 2021 10:46:11 GMT -5
well, now we know Bakersfield was a fraud with the uber-soft schedule. good win for Fullerton I wanted to say yesterday that Bakersfield was a pretty good team. However, the people posting on this board would not believe that any team Fullerton beat could be good. Well Bakersfield beat Long Beach, some of you thought Long Beach might be the class of the conference, The thing that really got me was the continual put down of Fullerton. Yes we had some bad years, but two years ago our top 2 setters were injured, our rt side, a senior was injured. I don't expect to finish in the top 4, but somewhere in the middle. Regarding today's game. CPSLO was just to tall for us. But if you were lucky enough to see the game, you saw a team with hart! I'm proud of the coaches and players. Keep fighting Titans! you should be proud or Fullerton's performance over the weekend,, but puhhhleezzze, reality isn't a putdown - Fullerton was, and probably still is a 200 ish at best team in D1 volleybball, that's not a putdown, that's a fact, supported by years of data. now, can they back it up for the next 4-5 weeks? we'll see face it Fullerton's performance came out of nowhere, I'm sure a nice surprise just as a Long Beach team that trampled on teh two San Diego teams, was a horrific disaster I know 'homer' fans always bristle at some of the dialogue, but face it the Big West has stunk this year, so no big deal dealing with it. The expectations can't be 1991, but at least should be circa 2014-2018 and 2-3 NCAA teams
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 26, 2021 10:49:34 GMT -5
How much longer does Joy keep her job? Would the Beach be able to attract a coach that has a proven winning record? They might go easy on her after this season since everyone in the Big West is struggling. She might be able to use the upset of USD for leverage too. seriously, one good week out of 5 years, last year's accomplishment was letting Tuaniga get away to U$C. ADs continually make bad decisions based on 'one good week' just look at Cal Poly Basketball. Calero their coach had a miraculous week winning the BWCT to get to the NCAAs and got Cal Poly mired in a 5 year extension with more mediocrity aside from that one week
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Post by beachgrad on Sept 26, 2021 11:08:11 GMT -5
Joy now has a five year body of work and that should be the basis of her evaluation at year’s end. The team still has plenty of time to right the ship and hope they do. However, the AD needs to take a look at the program and see if the infrastructure has been laid for future success. It will be interesting how the team closes and the criteria the AD uses to extend or not extend the coaching staff.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 26, 2021 11:08:27 GMT -5
Week #1 ratings. Finally we are in conference, so get to separate the women from the girls!! A few surprises, like always, and some shake-up. I was gonna say there were a couple of very remote outlier at-large possibilities going in to week 1 and glad I held that back as I would have got laughed at. Only one at-large possibility in Hawaii, but that is soooo remote, requires 1 conference loss scenario with USC and Texas A&M surging into the top 25, and 1 conf loss likely means they win the conference auto anyway. LB was the other remote going into week 1, and well...... ok go ahead and laugh
Group #1.
Hawaii: 2-0 on the road. not as good a team as years past, but they'll be there in the end UCSB: replaces LB in this group. 2-0 Poly: 2-0 on the road, the surprise was 3-0 vs. LB and 3-2 vs Fullerton, would have thought the other way around, but Poly could care less or couldn't care less (I always get those two confused), Walters has established consistency. Well rounded team.
Group #2: Bake: 1-1 on the road, not unexpected. go foreign and move up the program
Group everybody else. what this weekend showed is there are only 4 teams left who can win the conference, seriously. Long Beach and Irvine aren't going to win it, especially with their home matches. Irvine: their SOS was poor, and SB came in and put a sweep on them, sorry but the SB match was a put up and show your a contender match. better luck next year Long Beach: their SOS was good, they had momentum, played at home, Kash had AA numbers, .... and then a big fat resounding thud to the floor, autopsy results expected by next week. possibly a nice burial on the islands next week - at least a nice setting to say farewell again for another year Davis: like Irvine, it was put up or see ya next year with Hawaii at home. See ya next year!!! Fullerton: wow!! performance of the week, clearly the king of the consolation bracket, now see if they can win the coveted 'best team to come close to competing with the conference contenders' trophy. Big lead in that dept. UCSD: welcome to the Big West, a win! Northridge. almost forgot they are still in the conference. 2012-2014 glory years seem so distant now Riverside: hummm, if someone wants to say something 'nice', feel free. in 3 short years they are being relegated to 2nd class in the Inland Empire behind Cal Baptist. maybe Cal Baptist could consider bringing back MVB
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 26, 2021 11:17:35 GMT -5
Joy now has a five year body of work and that should be the basis of her evaluation at year’s end. The team still has plenty of time to right the ship and hope they do. However, the AD needs to take a look at the program and see if the infrastructure has been laid for future success. It will be interesting how the team closes and the criteria the AD uses to extend or not extend the coaching staff. agree, it's five years, and so far the 4 1/2 record is a D at best for the expectations this Univeristy should have. the data says we'll see more of the same this year, I'm a realist could they turn it around, maybe? we saw them surge 2 years ago in the last 3 weeks of that season, but that was after their season was already a 'wash' just like one good week shouldn't make for the entire evaluation, neither should one bad (should say horrific) week as well. the problem with this last week was it was a reflection of the first 4 years, but more importantly the stakes were really critical and the coaches, players, the entire program just choked big time for the occasion, complete collapse. this was not a 'young' team as some have said. Kash is 3rd year senior. Tia, Hoff, Kennedy, De La Cruz 3rd year sophomores. Canez a 5th year experienced senior. There should have been enough maturity from this squad and coaches to finally be prepared to go to a next level. And it's not so much the losses as it was the total collapse and dismantling by the opposition and at home. there's just no there there. Hoping for the best and will root for the best, but all data points elsewhere. Can't keep expecting a coach to turn the corner that continually never gets turned. really bummed, and of course the coaches and players are as well if the criteria of the University is to field a WVB team and offer schollies and graduate players and not finish last, then I guess an extension is in order. But then Fee has stated LB is a VOLLEYBALL UNIVERSITY, or at least should be, and under that criteria.....well people can figure that one out easily
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Post by 642fiddi on Sept 26, 2021 11:40:51 GMT -5
well, now we know Bakersfield was a fraud with the uber-soft schedule. good win for Fullerton I wanted to say yesterday that Bakersfield was a pretty good team. However, the people posting on this board would not believe that any team Fullerton beat could be good. Well Bakersfield beat Long Beach, some of you thought Long Beach might be the class of the conference, The thing that really got me was the continual put down of Fullerton. Yes we had some bad years, but two years ago our top 2 setters were injured, our rt side, a senior was injured. I don't expect to finish in the top 4, but somewhere in the middle. Regarding today's game. CPSLO was just to tall for us. But if you were lucky enough to see the game, you saw a team with hart! I'm proud of the coaches and players. Keep fighting Titans! The coaching change at Fullerton has paid dividends. The are small but well coached. They are going to beat some teams this year. 2nd night of back to backs is their best shot. They play very good defense and will catch some team that are tired. The lack of live arms in the BW makes them susceptible to good defense. The number of digs in last night match speaks to the lack of live arms and strength of defense. Fullerton's coaching is too good to be ignored. I thought that both CSUF and SLO setters played well. CSUFs lack of size will plague them this year.
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Post by Sunnydaze on Sept 26, 2021 16:03:16 GMT -5
Joy now has a five year body of work and that should be the basis of her evaluation at year’s end. The team still has plenty of time to right the ship and hope they do. However, the AD needs to take a look at the program and see if the infrastructure has been laid for future success. It will be interesting how the team closes and the criteria the AD uses to extend or not extend the coaching staff. agree, it's five years, and so far the 4 1/2 record is a D at best for the expectations this Univeristy should have. the data says we'll see more of the same this year, I'm a realist could they turn it around, maybe? we saw them surge 2 years ago in the last 3 weeks of that season, but that was after their season was already a 'wash' just like one good week shouldn't make for the entire evaluation, neither should one bad (should say horrific) week as well. the problem with this last week was it was a reflection of the first 4 years, but more importantly the stakes were really critical and the coaches, players, the entire program just choked big time for the occasion, complete collapse. this was not a 'young' team as some have said. Kash is 3rd year senior. Tia, Hoff, Kennedy, De La Cruz 3rd year sophomores. Canez a 5th year experienced senior. There should have been enough maturity from this squad and coaches to finally be prepared to go to a next level. And it's not so much the losses as it was the total collapse and dismantling by the opposition and at home. there's just no there there. Hoping for the best and will root for the best, but all data points elsewhere. Can't keep expecting a coach to turn the corner that continually never gets turned. really bummed, and of course the coaches and players are as well if the criteria of the University is to field a WVB team and offer schollies and graduate players and not finish last, then I guess an extension is in order. But then Fee has stated LB is a VOLLEYBALL UNIVERSITY, or at least should be, and under that criteria.....well people can figure that one out easily Actually the Beach is a very young team. Canez is a 5th senior, but this is her first year playing D1 volleyball. So I wouldn’t say she is an experienced senior. Kash is the only true starter from the 2019 team, and should be playing better. Dela Cruz is actually a junior, and is playing well. Kennedy, Tia, and Hoff are only in their second year of playing college volleyball, and will only get better. There are 14 freshman on the roster, three of which are starters: Lovett, Bacon, and Partyka. Once Partyka is healthy, she will replace Chavira. Fuller was the other freshman who was starting at middle before she got hurt and was replaced by Bacon. Who knows, if she remained healthy Canez might not have been starting. Hoping Martinez is ready to play soon, think she could really help the team. I’m sure the coaches are aware their jobs could very likely be on the line, if they don’t have a successful season. One of the things I have heard is that the coaches aren’t on the same page. You have three coaches telling players three different things to do on the court. As you can imagine that can cause some confusion on the court. Hoping they get things figured out soon!
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 26, 2021 16:22:01 GMT -5
agree, it's five years, and so far the 4 1/2 record is a D at best for the expectations this Univeristy should have. the data says we'll see more of the same this year, I'm a realist could they turn it around, maybe? we saw them surge 2 years ago in the last 3 weeks of that season, but that was after their season was already a 'wash' just like one good week shouldn't make for the entire evaluation, neither should one bad (should say horrific) week as well. the problem with this last week was it was a reflection of the first 4 years, but more importantly the stakes were really critical and the coaches, players, the entire program just choked big time for the occasion, complete collapse. this was not a 'young' team as some have said. Kash is 3rd year senior. Tia, Hoff, Kennedy, De La Cruz 3rd year sophomores. Canez a 5th year experienced senior. There should have been enough maturity from this squad and coaches to finally be prepared to go to a next level. And it's not so much the losses as it was the total collapse and dismantling by the opposition and at home. there's just no there there. Hoping for the best and will root for the best, but all data points elsewhere. Can't keep expecting a coach to turn the corner that continually never gets turned. really bummed, and of course the coaches and players are as well if the criteria of the University is to field a WVB team and offer schollies and graduate players and not finish last, then I guess an extension is in order. But then Fee has stated LB is a VOLLEYBALL UNIVERSITY, or at least should be, and under that criteria.....well people can figure that one out easily Actually the Beach is a very young team. Canez is a 5th senior, but this is her first year playing D1 volleyball. So I wouldn’t say she is an experienced senior. Kash is the only true starter from the 2019 team, and should be playing better. Dela Cruz is actually a junior, and is playing well. Kennedy, Tia, and Hoff are only in their second year of playing college volleyball, and will only get better. There are 14 freshman on the roster, three of which are starters: Lovett, Bacon, and Partyka. Once Partyka is healthy, she will replace Chavira. Fuller was the other freshman who was starting at middle before she got hurt and was replaced by Bacon. Who knows, if she remained healthy Canez might not have been starting. Hoping Martinez is ready to play soon, think she could really help the team. I’m sure the coaches are aware their jobs could very likely be on the line, if they don’t have a successful season. One of the things I have heard is that the coaches aren’t on the same page. You have three coaches telling players three different things to do on the court. As you can imagine that can cause some confusion on the court. Hoping they get things figured out soon! nope, Canez was all Big Sky, which is D1 Volleyball and nope, they are younger than some teams, but not really 'young', Majority are juniors and seniors in their class, and yes skipped a year, but calling them young sounds like a bunch of frosh out there who haven't played together. All teams have a mix. the point is there should be more maturity than the team and coaches display. Tia set vs. the San Diego teams and that was the best LB performances in a long time, and it's not like that frosh setter is that huge an upgrade. it looked so disorganized which goes to the coaching and not being prepared. this was a HUGE weekend and both Cal Poly & Bake came in with a purpose. As soon as Kash and Lovett got blocked a few times in teh beginning vs. Poly it's as if the entire team had no fundamentals to fall back upone and adjust, and they forgot how to play Volleyball, no adjustments, no grinding. And at home. Watch Joy's post game press conference and the comments by players and her - it'll make you sick to your stomach the reaction and it conveyed a team/staff without much idea about what happened and what to change and hinted at some real lack of cohesion and the need to have better 'huddles' (paraphrasing) lol. there's just not much left to comment on when it's always excuses now.
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Post by hapaguy on Sept 27, 2021 17:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by noblesol on Sept 28, 2021 14:55:28 GMT -5
Today, Fullerton challenges at Long Beach. Two former LBSU setters, now competing Big West coaches, go head to head. Who comes out on top?
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Post by 642fiddi on Sept 28, 2021 18:16:27 GMT -5
Actually the Beach is a very young team. Canez is a 5th senior, but this is her first year playing D1 volleyball. So I wouldn’t say she is an experienced senior. Kash is the only true starter from the 2019 team, and should be playing better. Dela Cruz is actually a junior, and is playing well. Kennedy, Tia, and Hoff are only in their second year of playing college volleyball, and will only get better. There are 14 freshman on the roster, three of which are starters: Lovett, Bacon, and Partyka. Once Partyka is healthy, she will replace Chavira. Fuller was the other freshman who was starting at middle before she got hurt and was replaced by Bacon. Who knows, if she remained healthy Canez might not have been starting. Hoping Martinez is ready to play soon, think she could really help the team. I’m sure the coaches are aware their jobs could very likely be on the line, if they don’t have a successful season. One of the things I have heard is that the coaches aren’t on the same page. You have three coaches telling players three different things to do on the court. As you can imagine that can cause some confusion on the court. Hoping they get things figured out soon! nope, Canez was all Big Sky, which is D1 Volleyball and nope, they are younger than some teams, but not really 'young', Majority are juniors and seniors in their class, and yes skipped a year, but calling them young sounds like a bunch of frosh out there who haven't played together. All teams have a mix. the point is there should be more maturity than the team and coaches display. Tia set vs. the San Diego teams and that was the best LB performances in a long time, and it's not like that frosh setter is that huge an upgrade. it looked so disorganized which goes to the coaching and not being prepared. this was a HUGE weekend and both Cal Poly & Bake came in with a purpose. As soon as Kash and Lovett got blocked a few times in teh beginning vs. Poly it's as if the entire team had no fundamentals to fall back upone and adjust, and they forgot how to play Volleyball, no adjustments, no grinding. And at home. Watch Joy's post game press conference and the comments by players and her - it'll make you sick to your stomach the reaction and it conveyed a team/staff without much idea about what happened and what to change and hinted at some real lack of cohesion and the need to have better 'huddles' (paraphrasing) lol. there's just not much left to comment on when it's always excuses now. Slo has frosh OH,MB,OPP and Lib all starting.
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Post by GauchoFreg on Sept 28, 2021 20:12:16 GMT -5
I've just been lurking as I don't follow women's vb too closely. I was a bit surprised at how UCSB has mastered the 3-2 loss as they had nearly everyone return from last year's team that, like everyone else didn't actually play games so I guess they're still recovering from the loss of Ruddins & Co after the 2019 season.
Based on their inability to close, no way do I agree with ccman putting them in the same top tier as UH, at least not yet. Let's see how they do on the road this week.
Btw, in comparing rosters, the Gauchos just lost one player early, setter Romani Vivao who made the all-frosh team in 2019. She does not appear to be playing for any other team right now, anyone know what happened to her?
BTW, ccman, I thoroughly enjoy your posts, its a shame you don't post on the BW basketball message board anymore.
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