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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 9:22:46 GMT -5
Help myself? I really don't know what you are insinuating. There were a few unclear things last year that could have at least been discussed or addressed, particularly for newbies, in the beginning. If more people asked for clarification or at least expressed their opinions on such issues, those situations could have been prevented or even perfected in some scenarios, instead of having people advocate and demand for rule changes or changes to the scoring system after the season started. The more addressed stuff in the beginning, the better. The first question is just asking for a simple clarification on a very likely situation. #2 and #3 are really just my opinions, and would be curious to hear your guys' rationale about that, or how other posters feel about them. It is not like I'm demanding for a change. As a newbie, I'd appreciate clarification on the substitutions. I just want to make sure I'm reading this right. So if 4 of my players don't play in a week (say due to covid), all of my bench players would be subbed in, assuming my roster requirements are met? Also, if just 1 of my players doesn't play in a week, I can wait until Sunday evening to choose who I want to sub for that person? I can see why trojansc is bringing up the discussion. As long as you’re keeping track of your opponent’s matches, there wouldn’t be any surprises. You should know their options for subs based on results. If they have an athlete who didn’t play all week, it’s probably safe to say that they will sub that athlete. If an athlete had a horrible week for whatever reason, and they have a player on the bench of the same position that had a great week, expect a sub.
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Post by vballfan17 on Jul 23, 2021 9:31:31 GMT -5
As a newbie, I'd appreciate clarification on the substitutions. I just want to make sure I'm reading this right. So if 4 of my players don't play in a week (say due to covid), all of my bench players would be subbed in, assuming my roster requirements are met? Also, if just 1 of my players doesn't play in a week, I can wait until Sunday evening to choose who I want to sub for that person? I can see why trojansc is bringing up the discussion. As long as you’re keeping track of your opponent’s matches, there wouldn’t be any surprises. You should know their options for subs based on results. If they have an athlete who didn’t play all week, it’s probably safe to say that they will sub that athlete. If an athlete had a horrible week for whatever reason, and they have a player on the bench of the same position that had a great week, expect a sub. Oh, so I must've been reading the rules wrong on the second part. So the FREE substitution means that even if a player played in a week but had horrible numbers, they could still be subbed out for someone on the bench who did better. Good to know. Thanks for clarifying!
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Post by Kingsley on Jul 23, 2021 9:59:26 GMT -5
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Post by trojansc on Jul 23, 2021 10:47:34 GMT -5
It was giving “why didn’t you do it my way?” vibes in a very loaded way. Questions like, “what was the rationale?” and “was any consideration given?” are not questions posed to clear things up for the newbies. And if you were just curious, you could’ve sent a PM instead. So, just to play along: 1. Yep 2. Because we don’t have to do things simply because you liked them. We think this is better. 3. 224 athletes in the draft? Are you serious? Sorry you got those vibes. As an admin even I didn't want the rules to be what I specifically thought or why not do it how I think it should be, I defaulted to what other admins thought in conjunction and/or what the league members thought via a vote. Only #1 was posed to clear up something for newbies, but all participants as well. I felt all of that was legitimate to post on the thread as someone may either share the same concern or be curious as well for the rationale behind it. I don't see the harm in discussing it, at all. As an example, we had a participant last year demand rule changes and a change to the scoring system last year and were accused of not doing a good job as admins if it wasn't changed. These type of discussions could hopefully prevent something like that from happening as I imagine most people would think a rule shouldn't be changed mid-season unless there is some unanimous support or freak incident. Anyway, #1 is clear, and if in #2 you mean 'you' as in me and other participants, that's understandable. I saw only positive feedback towards the idea of pre-determined substitutions. And by #3 having 196 as the max players and even 210 being too much and unfeasible results in the casualty of someone having 2 players at the same position cancelled and taking a zero in a category because of it, which I'm sure others share the concern with re: COVID, then so be it. It is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 11:00:21 GMT -5
Help myself? I really don't know what you are insinuating. There were a few unclear things last year that could have at least been discussed or addressed, particularly for newbies, in the beginning. If more people asked for clarification or at least expressed their opinions on such issues, those situations could have been prevented or even perfected in some scenarios, instead of having people advocate and demand for rule changes or changes to the scoring system after the season started. The more addressed stuff in the beginning, the better. The first question is just asking for a simple clarification on a very likely situation. #2 and #3 are really just my opinions, and would be curious to hear your guys' rationale about that, or how other posters feel about them. It is not like I'm demanding for a change. It was giving “why didn’t you do it my way?” vibes in a very loaded way. Questions like, “what was the rationale?” and “was any consideration given?” are not questions posed to clear things up for the newbies. And if you were just curious, you could’ve sent a PM instead. So, just to play along: 1. Yep 2. Because we don’t have to do things simply because you liked them. We think this is better. 3. 224 athletes in the draft? Are you serious? please….. like you’re in any position to attack someone for genuinely asking questions… remember this post of yours last year? “ “Nah, you just suck as an admin and couldn’t handle someone (multiple posters, actually) pointing out the gaps in the ruleset that y’all ADMITTED was bad because you threw the league together so quickly. Your defense was literally saying, “because we said so.” Lol so lazy. Anyway, hilarious to see how much you’ve complained this week and I’m enjoying it. You’re a hypocrite and you suck. Enjoy the loss.”
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 23, 2021 11:31:19 GMT -5
Omg this is getting good 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 11:55:35 GMT -5
I quit. I have no desire to participate in something run by a petty, mean, d bag who tries to intimidate everyone by throwing out personal attacks and insults. I just don’t get why you’re so mean to random people on the internet. Sad :/ On another note I hope whoever takes queen Lauren Matthews wins! I’ll be cheering from the sideline
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 23, 2021 12:58:57 GMT -5
Ok, legit questions:
"Each team is allotted a maximum of four substitutions per week. There are two types of substitutions:
FLOATING substitution: you may substitute a player from your bench onto your active roster if the active player did not play in any scheduled match during the current week of competition. FREE substitution: after any floating substitutions are made, you may choose to make one FREE substitution of any active player for any remaining bench player of the same position"
I read to to mean that a free substitution only takes places "after any floating substitutions are made". Therefore, if you don't make a floating substitution, you can't make a free substitution. Is that your intention or does every team essentially have 1 free substitution per week?
Also for more clarification, on the free substitutions it says an active player for any remaining bench player of the same position. Is it the position on the active roster or the position the player actually plays? The reason why I ask is that there are 3 "Any Player" positions on the active roster. If I fill one of those with a setter, and choose to free substitute that player, must I pick another setter or can I pick any player on my bench regardless of actual position?
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Post by donut on Jul 23, 2021 13:16:09 GMT -5
I quit. I have no desire to participate in something run by a petty, mean, d bag who tries to intimidate everyone by throwing out personal attacks and insults. I just don’t get why you’re so mean to random people on the internet. Sad :/ On another note I hope whoever takes queen Lauren Matthews wins! I’ll be cheering from the sideline … seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 13:39:03 GMT -5
I quit. I have no desire to participate in something run by a petty, mean, d bag who tries to intimidate everyone by throwing out personal attacks and insults. I just don’t get why you’re so mean to random people on the internet. Sad :/ On another note I hope whoever takes queen Lauren Matthews wins! I’ll be cheering from the sideline … seriously? yuh
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Post by eazy on Jul 23, 2021 13:49:04 GMT -5
Hey we got pinned to the top! Nice!
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Post by donut on Jul 23, 2021 13:56:36 GMT -5
Ok, legit questions: "Each team is allotted a maximum of four substitutions per week. There are two types of substitutions: FLOATING substitution: you may substitute a player from your bench onto your active roster if the active player did not play in any scheduled match during the current week of competition. FREE substitution: after any floating substitutions are made, you may choose to make one FREE substitution of any active player for any remaining bench player of the same position" I read to to mean that a free substitution only takes places "after any floating substitutions are made". Therefore, if you don't make a floating substitution, you can't make a free substitution. Is that your intention or does every team essentially have 1 free substitution per week? Also for more clarification, on the free substitutions it says an active player for any remaining bench player of the same position. Is it the position on the active roster or the position the player actually plays? The reason why I ask is that there are 3 "Any Player" positions on the active roster. If I fill one of those with a setter, and choose to free substitute that player, must I pick another setter or can I pick any player on my bench regardless of actual position? No, you can make a free substitution without a floating substitution. We did it this way so that you get all of your players in who had stats (and your players out who didn't have stats) and then you can use the free substitution on any of those players. Order, IMO, will rarely be an issue, especially since you have to submit all of your substitutions at once. @allamerican11 and I will discuss the last question and update the rules. Thanks for flagging this!
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Post by trojansc on Jul 23, 2021 14:02:27 GMT -5
No, you can make a free substitution without a floating substitution. We did it this way so that you get all of your players in who had stats (and your players out who didn't have stats) and then you can use the free substitution on any of those players. Order, IMO, will rarely be an issue, especially since you have to submit all of your substitutions at once. @allamerican11 and I will discuss the last question and update the rules. Thanks for flagging this! There will also be a few weeks where Hawaii's Sunday matches will finish after the sub deadline. A minor issue that probably won't happen, but, Fantasy has a tendency to have the rare unlikely scenarios come into play. Like, first week Texas A&M plays Hawaii on Sunday at 11pm ET.
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Post by donut on Jul 23, 2021 14:04:07 GMT -5
It was giving “why didn’t you do it my way?” vibes in a very loaded way. Questions like, “what was the rationale?” and “was any consideration given?” are not questions posed to clear things up for the newbies. And if you were just curious, you could’ve sent a PM instead. So, just to play along: 1. Yep 2. Because we don’t have to do things simply because you liked them. We think this is better. 3. 224 athletes in the draft? Are you serious? Anyway, #1 is clear, and if in #2 you mean 'you' as in me and other participants, that's understandable. I saw only positive feedback towards the idea of pre-determined substitutions. And by #3 having 196 as the max players and even 210 being too much and unfeasible results in the casualty of someone having 2 players at the same position cancelled and taking a zero in a category because of it, which I'm sure others share the concern with re: COVID, then so be it. It is what it is. Pre-determined substitutions is more work for the admins, and requiring players to actively substitute each week encourages engagement. We understand concerns about COVID, etc., but personally, I think these concerns (as of right now) are fringe cases. We gave 10 add/drops (70% of your team) and 4 substitutions per week -- that's a ton of flexibility. I'd also ask people to remember that in past years, if you had an injured player, you were sh*t out of luck! We've come a long way since then. No, the rules don't accommodate 14 players who are out on COVID protocol, and posters might get lucky one or two weeks if they have multiple players out. If it becomes an issue, we can always readjust the rules fairly.
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Post by donut on Jul 23, 2021 14:07:17 GMT -5
No, you can make a free substitution without a floating substitution. We did it this way so that you get all of your players in who had stats (and your players out who didn't have stats) and then you can use the free substitution on any of those players. Order, IMO, will rarely be an issue, especially since you have to submit all of your substitutions at once. @allamerican11 and I will discuss the last question and update the rules. Thanks for flagging this! There will also be a few weeks where Hawaii's Sunday matches will finish after the sub deadline. A minor issue that probably won't happen, but, Fantasy has a tendency to have the rare unlikely scenarios come into play. Like, first week Texas A&M plays Hawaii on Sunday at 11pm ET. We moved roster deadline back because of this, but I'll chat with @allamerican11 about subs. Thanks for flagging this!
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