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Post by apollovee on Nov 14, 2024 23:53:20 GMT -5
Showalter is playing with Young not Karl. Two bigs, interesting pairing, BS is my dark horse for the Trojans this season, she’s got a big arm. |
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Post by hbmb10k on Nov 15, 2024 2:41:28 GMT -5
Major cuts coming to next year with the 19 player limit. They have 18 now with only 1 grad and no seniors. They have around six new freshman "planned" to come in next year. And that doesn't even include room for your normal one or two grad transfers. If you make room for one grad transfer, that's 5 players or incoming players slots being eliminated. Brutal.
My guess is that coaches will only take 2-3 incoming freshman and cut 4-5 non-starters, and cross their fingers that they can snag around 3 quality international or grad transfers. Critical that these players currently not starting step up and show what they can do this next season or it's the end of the line with USC.
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Post by burbank55 on Nov 15, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -5
Showalter is playing with Young not Karl. Two bigs, interesting pairing, BS is my dark horse for the Trojans this season, she’s got a big arm. USC must have recently switched it. Young/Karl was seeded 32nd and #2 in the Alvarez/Moreno pool. Now Young/Showalter are seeded 33nd and #3 in the same Alvarez/Moreno pool. If they switch to Young/Goellner, they could move up above 32nd and avoid Alvarez/Moreno. Not that Dain cares… nor ultimately should we. NCAA Beach VB is somewhat unique and special in that every starter is just as important as any other starter. |
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Post by burbank55 on Nov 15, 2024 11:39:04 GMT -5
If you want to see Young/Showalter take on Alvarez/Moreno at 9am PDT Friday today, they’ll be on Central Court. Travis Mewhirter will be announcing. As reported on the main tourney thread, you can watch for free. You’ll need to register on tv.volleyballworld.com. tv.volleyballworld.com/competition-groups/2czoNrhrEdit: not sure why the Central Court feed switched to Court 2 for UH vs UNF. Maybe they pick and choose which court to get the commentary? |
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Post by burbank55 on Nov 15, 2024 13:26:31 GMT -5
If you want to see Young/Showalter take on Alvarez/Moreno at 9am PDT Friday today, they’ll be on Central Court. Travis Mewhirter will be announcing. As reported on the main tourney thread, you can watch for free. You’ll need to register on tv.volleyballworld.com. tv.volleyballworld.com/competition-groups/2czoNrhrEdit: not sure why the Central Court feed switched to Court 2 for UH vs UNF. Maybe they pick and choose which court to get the commentary? Ok, now Alvarez/Moreno vs Young/Showalter will be showing on the Central Court feed… Edit: if anyone is reading this later on Friday, you can find Young/Showalter against Pepperdine at -8:46 or so on the Central Court feed. The match against Alvarez/Moreno is at -5:21. |
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Post by apollovee on Nov 15, 2024 16:23:16 GMT -5
Was surprised Showalter was the full time blocker, Young seems slower of foot between the two, but she had 4 blocks and touched a lot of balls. They had a lead in the middle of the 2nd set but some unforced errors did them in. Can’t give points away to the TCU olympians, but the announcer stated they were playing with a new ball so maybe that attributed to the mistakes.
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Post by burbank55 on Nov 15, 2024 18:58:02 GMT -5
Was surprised Showalter was the full time blocker, Young seems slower of foot between the two, but she had 4 blocks and touched a lot of balls. They had a lead in the middle of the 2nd set but some unforced errors did them in. Can’t give points away to the TCU olympians, but the announcer stated they were playing with a new ball so maybe that attributed to the mistakes. Bailey Showalter had a couple great blocks in the match. They never really had a chance but they performed great for athletes that will be fighting for 5th pair going up against undisputed #1 pair in collegiate beach this year. The ability is there, just need more refinement and reps. Young has improved considerably since last year (I think I only saw her in the fall 2023 tourneys). I think when the Trojans got down 11-3 or whatever in the first set, they loosened up and started playing better. Very encouraging! Also, forgot to add the news that incoming 2025 top prep Ky Zaengle will be playing with Kelly Cheng at the 2024 Laguna Beach Open. Good to see that Trojan Family mentoring in action. http://instagram.com/p/DCXpXS3yltF
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Post by beachnut94 on Nov 16, 2024 10:48:31 GMT -5
Major cuts coming to next year with the 19 player limit. They have 18 now with only 1 grad and no seniors. They have around six new freshman "planned" to come in next year. And that doesn't even include room for your normal one or two grad transfers. If you make room for one grad transfer, that's 5 players or incoming players slots being eliminated. Brutal. My guess is that coaches will only take 2-3 incoming freshman and cut 4-5 non-starters, and cross their fingers that they can snag around 3 quality international or grad transfers. Critical that these players currently not starting step up and show what they can do this next season or it's the end of the line with USC. Someone said some of the junior group were graduating early? No idea if it’s fact or fiction or if they would return for a grad year. Probably depends if they start or not I would assume |
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Post by barnesnclark on Nov 16, 2024 18:56:42 GMT -5
Any concern about this upcoming season for trojan fans? Typically, I feel that the # 4, 5, 6 positions for USC could be the 1's or 2's at 95% of the other schools out there. This year not so much. I mention this because the two USC pairs at the AVCA this weekend are going to finish 17th and 41st (if they win out tomorrow). Losses to TCU, GCU, AZ, UH, and UCLA combined with tight 3 setters with Pepperdine and FAU leads me to believe the Trojans are not as deep as last year. At the 2023 Pairs Pater/Radell, Kriz/Siets ended up losing in the elite 8, both 3rd set nail biters 21-23 and 13-15 to UCLA and Stanford. They finished 6th and 7th respectively. Yes, last year Radell, Kriz and Siets were all elite transfers from top notch schools, but that is my point. USC was deeper last year. I can't argue with the last 4 years, but this year feels different.
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Post by hbmb10k on Nov 16, 2024 19:40:49 GMT -5
Any concern about this upcoming season for trojan fans? Typically, I feel that the # 4, 5, 6 positions for USC could be the 1's or 2's at 95% of the other schools out there. This year not so much. I mention this because the two USC pairs at the AVCA this weekend are going to finish 17th and 41st (if they win out tomorrow). Losses to TCU, GCU, AZ, UH, and UCLA combined with tight 3 setters with Pepperdine and FAU leads me to believe the Trojans are not as deep as last year. At the 2023 Pairs Pater/Radell, Kriz/Siets ended up losing in the elite 8, both 3rd set nail biters 21-23 and 13-15 to UCLA and Stanford. They finished 6th and 7th respectively. Yes, last year Radell, Kriz and Siets were all elite transfers from top notch schools, but that is my point. USC was deeper last year. I can't argue with the last 4 years, but this year feels different. Agree. Many starters/potential starters with various ailments right now. Showalter was last minute replacement for Karl who's vying for the 5's spot. Showalter I'd rate a 6 court. Young also just vying for 5's spot. So not like this a couple of sure starters. On the other hand Truslow/Gessner are likely starters so they need to get to work. I'd rate USC chances of winning it all this season at 33%. TCU still the team to beat. |
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Post by burbank55 on Nov 17, 2024 12:41:43 GMT -5
Any concern about this upcoming season for trojan fans? Typically, I feel that the # 4, 5, 6 positions for USC could be the 1's or 2's at 95% of the other schools out there. This year not so much. I mention this because the two USC pairs at the AVCA this weekend are going to finish 17th and 41st (if they win out tomorrow). Losses to TCU, GCU, AZ, UH, and UCLA combined with tight 3 setters with Pepperdine and FAU leads me to believe the Trojans are not as deep as last year. At the 2023 Pairs Pater/Radell, Kriz/Siets ended up losing in the elite 8, both 3rd set nail biters 21-23 and 13-15 to UCLA and Stanford. They finished 6th and 7th respectively. Yes, last year Radell, Kriz and Siets were all elite transfers from top notch schools, but that is my point. USC was deeper last year. I can't argue with the last 4 years, but this year feels different. I agree with both you and hbmb10k, but would like to add a couple points. 1) Last year’s pairs probably had higher seeds. This made their pool play much easier and therefore their seeding into the championship bracket. I’m not saying this is the sole difference, just that this year’s pairs had a tougher path. 2) Kayleigh Truslow is only a sophomore, along with Zoey Henson. It’s not fair to judge those two against last year’s grad transfers. Gessner, I would rate between Seits and Radell. At this point, last year, Kriz and Seits were expected to play on courts 2 or 3. No one has those expectations for any of the Trojans who went to Huntsville. Gessner, we were hoping could compete at 3s or 4s. Truslow at best, 4s. There’s no doubt that there’s more uncertainty with this year’s squad than last year. Probably better to compare them to the 2023 reload squad. One big difference is that while TCU seems to be as tough as 2023, UCLA is decidedly not as strong as 2023. Looks like Gessner/Truslow forfeited against TA&M CC this morning. |
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Post by beachnut94 on Nov 20, 2024 9:52:53 GMT -5
I happened to click on a link showing truvolley rankings. They are just not very accurate and generally sku against SC and favor players at lower pairs and or schools that seem to always be favored. I gets it’s probably a math equation but it’s just seems off. It doesn’t account for things that happened 15-30 days ago where other players beat pairs they moved up because of a different win.
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Post by hbmb10k on Nov 20, 2024 13:17:04 GMT -5
I happened to click on a link showing truvolley rankings. They are just not very accurate and generally sku against SC and favor players at lower pairs and or schools that seem to always be favored. I gets it’s probably a math equation but it’s just seems off. It doesn’t account for things that happened 15-30 days ago where other players beat pairs they moved up because of a different win. They update it one or two days after the tournament. I think is self corrects pretty quickly. What I thought was strange was that Moreno/Alvarez never went down in ratings after they lost to Boyd/Perez.You can see the boost Boyd got in ratings after that game. Thomas, before previous tournament was ranked fairly low but shot up considerably after her and White beat Boyd/Perez. Gessner had a high rating but has tanked due to her losses this season. The first tournament USC participated in had so many team player swaps that I think Truevolley threw that one out. Another thing that happens is these euro players at UT, TCU, etc come in with ratings attained via international competition and I think that over rates them in relation to US players. * I read Truevolly stats wrong. Moreno/Alvarez do have a lower rating since this Summer. Maybe that stemmed from the Boyd/Perez loss? They remain the top players, so no change for them to the column on the right. |
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 20, 2024 23:08:39 GMT -5
I happened to click on a link showing truvolley rankings. They are just not very accurate and generally sku against SC and favor players at lower pairs and or schools that seem to always be favored. I gets it’s probably a math equation but it’s just seems off. It doesn’t account for things that happened 15-30 days ago where other players beat pairs they moved up because of a different win. I noticed what I considered failures in their rankings last year. |
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