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Post by dc on Sept 15, 2021 19:59:57 GMT -5
Not a nuclear war? OK. Just an insurrection, huh?
That’s fine then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 20:15:18 GMT -5
Oh absolutely. Someone like Trump would do anything to stay in power. Anything to avoid being tagged as a "loser". Including start a nuclear war!?! smh Why not? A little war with China, Goebbels and Himmler backing him...sure. Chinese policy and intel analysts aren't fools. Neither are those in the Pentagon. If those people were in communication, yes, there were real worries Trump would be that sort of person. |
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 15, 2021 20:16:03 GMT -5
Oh absolutely. Someone like Trump would do anything to stay in power. Anything to avoid being tagged as a "loser". Including start a nuclear war!?! smh If this was any other president, I would agree it would be a stretch to imagine him launching nuclear weapons to save his own presidency. But Trump was no ordinary president. His record proves he is willing to do anything to save his job. |
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Post by dc on Sept 15, 2021 20:18:31 GMT -5
Including start a nuclear war!?! smh If this was any other president, I would agree it would be a stretch to imagine them launching nuclear weapons to save his own presidency. But Trump was no ordinary president. His record proves he is willing to do anything to save his job. It’s bizarre that people think normal judgement parameters are relevant when it comes to Trump. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 15, 2021 20:53:54 GMT -5
"willing to do anything to stay in office" is belied by the fact he didn't actually stay in office and the things he did fall well short of "anything."
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 15, 2021 20:57:08 GMT -5
What else do you call it when a general usurps the president's legal authority? Where did the general "usurp" the president authority? Milley said clearly the order to make a nuclear strike is the president to make. But that he will be in the loop of any such decision. If the book is accurate, Milley believed he was inserting himself in the nuclear launch process, which would be an usurpation of statutory presidential authority. If it actually went down like Milley claims, he should have immediately involved Congress rather than sitting on it and talking to Bob Woodward instead. |
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 15, 2021 22:37:15 GMT -5
Where did the general "usurp" the president authority? Milley said clearly the order to make a nuclear strike is the president to make. But that he will be in the loop of any such decision. If the book is accurate, Milley believed he was inserting himself in the nuclear launch process, which would be an usurpation of statutory presidential authority. If it actually went down like Milley claims, he should have immediately involved Congress rather than sitting on it and talking to Bob Woodward instead. He did not insert himself in the process, he is always part of the process, to be consulted on when the president decided doomsday is the way to go. |
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 15, 2021 22:37:55 GMT -5
"willing to do anything to stay in office" is belied by the fact he didn't actually stay in office and the things he did fall well short of "anything."That's because there were people like Milley not willing to let Trump destroy the country. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Sept 16, 2021 6:39:01 GMT -5
Not a nuclear war? OK. Just an insurrection, huh? That’s fine then. There's a HUGE difference between potentially ending the planet and supposedly causing an insurrection. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Sept 16, 2021 6:42:47 GMT -5
"willing to do anything to stay in office" is belied by the fact he didn't actually stay in office and the things he did fall well short of "anything."That's because there were people like Milley not willing to let Trump destroy the country. Before we make Milley out to be the savior of the country; did he and Trump have a confrontation about using the nuclear codes? Did Trump ever say to his advisors I think we should start a war with China? You can't credit people with being there to stop something that was never going to happen in the first place. |
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Post by moody on Sept 16, 2021 6:53:03 GMT -5
Milley should resign, immediately. NO he shouldn't |
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Post by moody on Sept 16, 2021 6:58:54 GMT -5
"willing to do anything to stay in office" is belied by the fact he didn't actually stay in office and the things he did fall well short of "anything." Trump incited an insurrection. He pressured Pence, Barr, Rosen, Clark, election supervisors in all swing states etc etc etc. He took every opportunity to spread his beg lie about voting fraud and still is. Why in the world would you defend this behavior? |
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Post by moody on Sept 16, 2021 7:00:42 GMT -5
That's because there were people like Milley not willing to let Trump destroy the country. Before we make Milley out to be the savior of the country; did he and Trump have a confrontation about using the nuclear codes? Did Trump ever say to his advisors I think we should start a war with China? You can't credit people with being there to stop something that was never going to happen in the first place. How about Garland appoint an independent investigation surrounding this and go where the evidence takes them? I'm guessing that wouldn't work out for Trump and his accomplices. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Sept 16, 2021 7:04:02 GMT -5
Before we make Milley out to be the savior of the country; did he and Trump have a confrontation about using the nuclear codes? Did Trump ever say to his advisors I think we should start a war with China? You can't credit people with being there to stop something that was never going to happen in the first place. How about Garland appoint an independent investigation surrounding this and go where the evidence takes them? I'm guessing that wouldn't work out for Trump and his accomplices. But as you just said, at this point it's only a guess. And IF by any chance information is found out that Trump was planning a nuclear war with China, it needs to come to light. If for no other reason than to derail his comeback attempt. |
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Post by moody on Sept 16, 2021 7:12:44 GMT -5
How about Garland appoint an independent investigation surrounding this and go where the evidence takes them? I'm guessing that wouldn't work out for Trump and his accomplices. But as you just said, at this point it's only a guess. And IF by any chance information is found out that Trump was planning a nuclear war with China, it needs to come to light. If for no other reason than to derail his comeback attempt. That's why I recommend an independent investigation go where the evidence leads. That means Milly testifies. That means Trump testifies as well. |
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