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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 19, 2021 19:35:21 GMT -5
Yes, that's a good point. However, I don't imagine that OSU is going to tear through the PAC like a hot knife through butter, so their final record is probably going to be pretty dismal. But the Arizonas probably will be pretty dismal too. And I doubt CU/Utah finish as the toughest draw by record. We'll find out, I guess. But starting out with the OoC record they have (and also being pretty good teams), I still wouldn't be surprised if the Utah/Colorado pairing ends up being the highest combined record. The other main possibility is Washington/WSU (13-5). UCLA/USC seems less likely, both because of where they are starting (11-6) and where USC seems to be as a team right now. |
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Post by hammer on Sept 19, 2021 21:23:20 GMT -5
The boost will be based on final records, not OOC. Yes, that's a good point. However, I don't imagine that OSU is going to tear through the PAC like a hot knife through butter, so their final record is probably going to be pretty dismal. OSU is going to be like a straw trying to cut through a block of ice. |
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Post by JJVb on Sept 20, 2021 0:51:47 GMT -5
Yes, that's a good point. However, I don't imagine that OSU is going to tear through the PAC like a hot knife through butter, so their final record is probably going to be pretty dismal. OSU is going to be like a straw trying to cut through a block of ice. Wow that's harsh lol. Well I give them a better chance than that if and when they have 3 of the better plays back in action, but not much more of a chance. |
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Post by rtael on Sept 20, 2021 4:02:12 GMT -5
Colorado with a surprise top 3 finish this year, you heard it here first!
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Post by volleyball303 on Sept 20, 2021 5:41:56 GMT -5
Colorado with a surprise top 3 finish this year, you heard it here first! If Parker was not out for the season I could see it. Jill does good on the right side but she is not the biggest blocker. I am also interested to see how Clayton does against the bigger blocks in the Pac-12. She is actually undersized at a generous 5’10. I would love to see it but they might be one or two fire power players short. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Sept 20, 2021 8:07:42 GMT -5
Colorado with a surprise top 3 finish this year, you heard it here first! If Parker was not out for the season I could see it. Jill does good on the right side but she is not the biggest blocker. I am also interested to see how Clayton does against the bigger blocks in the Pac-12. She is actually undersized at a generous 5’10. I would love to see it but they might be one or two fire power players short. Do you mean you want to see how Tabron is going to do? Clayton did just fine in the PAC last year. Hit a little over .200, 3+ kills per set. Named all Pac Honorable Mention. And she did that with the constant carousel of players on the court. She is Colorado's offense. Tabron and Schneggenburger are going to decide whether Colorado can hang with the Pac this year. |
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Post by BumpSetKill on Sept 20, 2021 8:46:44 GMT -5
If Parker was not out for the season I could see it. Jill does good on the right side but she is not the biggest blocker. I am also interested to see how Clayton does against the bigger blocks in the Pac-12. She is actually undersized at a generous 5’10. I would love to see it but they might be one or two fire power players short. Do you mean you want to see how Tabron is going to do? Clayton did just fine in the PAC last year. Hit a little over .200, 3+ kills per set. Named all Pac Honorable Mention. And she did that with the constant carousel of players on the court. She is Colorado's offense. Tabron and Schneggenburger are going to decide whether Colorado can hang with the Pac this year. Not quite. Colorado actually spreads the offense (and gets kills) quite a bit compared to other teams that rely heavily on their main OH. Clayton does get the most kills on the team (like many OH's). Clayton also looks to be hitting more aggressively and efficiently than last season. She looks fitter and happier. It is true that Tabron and Schneg will be a big factor on how Colorado does. Kuehl is getting better each match and will need to step up too. There is still a chance that the previously acclaimed Campbell may come in after recovering from injury and could replace Tabron when/if needed. Colorado can definitely hang with the PAC. That's not the question. The question is, will they finish in the top half of the PAC or not. |
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Post by volleyball303 on Sept 20, 2021 8:48:47 GMT -5
I guess I am saying for CU to finish top 3 Clayton is going to have to hit over .300. They can definitely finish top 7 with her hitting over .200. I don’t think CU has enough firepower to consistently beat Washington, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA. Maybe a win or two out of the 7 times they will play those 4 teams. Plus the way USC started and ended in the spring was completely different. I expect them to improve immensely. Plus CU never does well against them. I see CU finishing between 5-8. They will win and lose some matches they shouldn’t.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 20, 2021 20:07:56 GMT -5
Updated for Sept 20 ================== Expected conference records based on Sept 20 pablo and actual conference results as of Sept 19: Washington 15-5 .753 Utah 14-6 .679 UCLA 13-7 .660 Colorado 13-7 .656 Stanford 12-8 .578 Oregon 11-9 .562 WSU 11-9 .571 USC 10-10 .477 Arizona 8-12 .384 ASU 7-13 .360 OSU 3-17 .173 Cal 3-17 .147 Read more: volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/59987/pac-12-weekly-posts================== This week's matches (Pacific times) Wed: 6:00pm Colorado@WSU7:00pm Cal@Stanford, USC@UCLA, OSU@Oregon 8:00pm Utah@WashingtonThurs: 6:00pm Arizona@ASUFri: 6:00pm Utah@ColoradoSun: noon OSU@Arizona, Washington@WSU, Oregon@ASU 2:00pm UCLA@Stanford, USC@Cal ================== Pablo highlight matches of the week (top-25 pablo matchups):#17 Utah (35%) @ #7 Washington (65%) -- Outcome: #17 Utah (46%) @ #18 Colorado (54%) -- Outcome: #16 UCLA (55%) @ #25 Stanford (45%) -- Outcome: Previous: ================== Pablo close matches of the week (55/45 or closer):Colorado (53%) @ WSU (47%) -- Outcome: Arizona (46%) @ ASU (54%) -- Outcome: Utah (46%) @ Colorado (54%) -- Outcome: UCLA (55%) @ Stanford (45%) -- Outcome: Previous: ================== |
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Post by VolleyballFella on Sept 20, 2021 23:29:17 GMT -5
I'd love for Colorado to win 13 PAC matches, but I'm not expecting more than 11 wins for them. Makes better sense to switch Oregon and Colorado here, but I know it's Pablo just doing its thing. We shall see...
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 21, 2021 0:11:01 GMT -5
I'd love for Colorado to win 13 PAC matches, but I'm not expecting more than 11 wins for them. Makes better sense to switch Oregon and Colorado here, but I know it's Pablo just doing its thing. We shall see... I am sure that pablo "noticed" Oregon's difficulties this past weekend. Of course pablo doesn't "know" Nuneviller was mostly unavailable. |
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Post by After Dawn on Sept 21, 2021 0:16:27 GMT -5
What would Hawaii's record be using pablo if they played in the pac. You can take out USC since they already played.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 21, 2021 0:20:29 GMT -5
Note that for "expected record", Washington benefits from only playing Utah and Colorado once. By pablo those are two of the four best teams, and by playing them only once Washington gets a buff on their expected record. Likewise (but to a lesser extent), Colorado and Utah get a buff by only having to play the best team (according to pablo) once.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 21, 2021 0:21:51 GMT -5
What would Hawaii's record be using pablo if they played in the pac. You can take out USC since they already played. Normally I would be inclined to answer that for fun, but I hurt myself pretty badly today. (I think I broke my wrist. Got to go get a doctor appointment.) Anyway, the point is that's too much work for me to do right now. |
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Post by After Dawn on Sept 21, 2021 0:24:13 GMT -5
What would Hawaii's record be using pablo if they played in the pac. You can take out USC since they already played. Normally I would be inclined to answer that for fun, but I hurt myself pretty badly today. (I think I broke my wrist. Got to go get a doctor appointment.) Anyway, the point is that's too much work for me to do right now. Is there a tool to input this type of stuff. I don't even know UH's pablo right now, if ya at least could tell me that. |
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