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Post by ndodge on Oct 24, 2021 20:53:10 GMT -5
Wow, even the Swiss league. Thanks for the update on Duello. I wish Bates was still there.
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Post by vballfan17 on Oct 24, 2021 20:56:21 GMT -5
Wow, even the Swiss league. Thanks for the update on Duello. I wish Bates was still there. I thought Bates would’ve made a great US libero
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 24, 2021 22:50:53 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet but why isn’t Plummer playing for imoco in the last two matches I found online? She started against novara and (offensively) was a monster. Is she injured ?
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Post by avid 2.0 on Oct 24, 2021 22:53:19 GMT -5
What are the chances of RJP going to Paris? She seems to be playing so consistently. I think she's clearly on the B team right now, but she was one of the bright spots from NORCECA/Pan Am If her passing gets better... I don't see why not... She needs to jump on her opportunities with USA... maybe find her way back to Italy
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Post by avid 2.0 on Oct 24, 2021 22:53:56 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet but why isn’t Plummer playing for imoco in the last two matches I found online? She started against novara and (offensively) was a monster. Is she injured ? Yea, but Imoco hasn't said what it is, or how bad it may be. Hopefully nothing serious
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2021 0:19:24 GMT -5
What are the chances of RJP going to Paris? She seems to be playing so consistently. I think she's clearly on the B team right now, but she was one of the bright spots from NORCECA/Pan Am If her passing gets better... I don't see why not... She needs to jump on her opportunities with USA... maybe find her way back to Italy Out of curiosity, what would you say is the hierarchy of international volleyball leagues? Like I think Italy's is the best, but I have no idea after that.
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Post by basil on Oct 25, 2021 0:38:09 GMT -5
I think she's clearly on the B team right now, but she was one of the bright spots from NORCECA/Pan Am If her passing gets better... I don't see why not... She needs to jump on her opportunities with USA... maybe find her way back to Italy Out of curiosity, what would you say is the hierarchy of international volleyball leagues? Like I think Italy's is the best, but I have no idea after that. Italy is the best league top-to-bottom, Turkey is number two with the top of the league being able to compete with anyone else in the world. After that, it's probably the rest of Europe and then Brazil. I'd say: Germany, Poland, Brazil, France, Switzerland? They're pretty even, then France is probably a step below the other three, and Switzerland is definitely last. Then, the Asian leagues. You'll earn a ton of money, but not the best volleyball to be playing imo. Japan is probably the best, and honestly I'd say on par with the smaller European leagues like France based on how a lot of their players perform with national team. Then China and Korea. The best Chinese team Tianjin can probably compete since they have the biggest budget and best players, and also Shanghai, but other than that, meh. Korea is pretty weak too. After that, it's the super small leagues like Puerto Rico, Finland, Sweden, etc. SE Asia has a few leagues. Basically, you want to be in Italy or Turkey. Getting started in other European leagues is also a good step forward but you wanna move up into the top two eventually. *this is all my opinion*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 0:58:22 GMT -5
How is it that I only noticed this thread today. I'm snoozing.
Good work avid.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Oct 25, 2021 8:06:17 GMT -5
I think she's clearly on the B team right now, but she was one of the bright spots from NORCECA/Pan Am If her passing gets better... I don't see why not... She needs to jump on her opportunities with USA... maybe find her way back to Italy Out of curiosity, what would you say is the hierarchy of international volleyball leagues? Like I think Italy's is the best, but I have no idea after that. Yep, Italy is the best. (following onto what Basil said) CEV ranks the countries according to how they perform in the european cup competitions, so there's a bit of a hierarchy there. They rank 1. Turkey, 2. Italy, 3. Russia, (gap) 4. Poland, (gap) 5. France, 6. Romania, 7. Germany, 8. Swiss and then so on I think thats pretty accurate at the top... All three of those leagues have big $$$. Poland has been a step ahead of Germany and France lately... mostly because they can afford better foreigners. Romania is a bit of an outlier.. I wouldnt include them ahead of Germany and France. They have one team (Alba Blaj) who has done really well and inflated the rankings. Outside of Europe, I think Brazil would fit in around Russia and Poland. They have some tops teams, but they dont have the money or depth that Turkey/Italy has (or even stability). Chinese teams fluctuate a lot (depending on who their foreigners are) but they're probably below the level of Brazil... They compete in the club world championships ($) but usually dont have enough depth with their Chinese talent to challenge the European teams. Japan and Korea are very good for $$ but I don't think they stack up to any of the top leagues. Too much of their talent is dispersed and only one foreigner has its limitations internationally.
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Post by basil on Oct 25, 2021 11:12:28 GMT -5
not me forgetting about Russia LOL
I need Bricio to leave Kazan like asap
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2021 12:42:35 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what would you say is the hierarchy of international volleyball leagues? Like I think Italy's is the best, but I have no idea after that. Italy is the best league top-to-bottom, Turkey is number two with the top of the league being able to compete with anyone else in the world. After that, it's probably the rest of Europe and then Brazil. I'd say: Germany, Poland, Brazil, France, Switzerland? They're pretty even, then France is probably a step below the other three, and Switzerland is definitely last. Then, the Asian leagues. You'll earn a ton of money, but not the best volleyball to be playing imo. Japan is probably the best, and honestly I'd say on par with the smaller European leagues like France based on how a lot of their players perform with national team. Then China and Korea. The best Chinese team Tianjin can probably compete since they have the biggest budget and best players, and also Shanghai, but other than that, meh. Korea is pretty weak too. After that, it's the super small leagues like Puerto Rico, Finland, Sweden, etc. SE Asia has a few leagues. Basically, you want to be in Italy or Turkey. Getting started in other European leagues is also a good step forward but you wanna move up into the top two eventually. *this is all my opinion* Thanks to you and avid 2.0 for the breakdowns.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Oct 29, 2021 15:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by agean09 on Oct 29, 2021 15:07:26 GMT -5
Yes, interesting indeed! An interesting title and interesting that I don't see you cited at all...
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Post by kwt on Oct 29, 2021 15:08:44 GMT -5
They're stealing from you!
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Post by avid 2.0 on Oct 29, 2021 15:12:00 GMT -5
They're stealing from you! I mean... I dont expect anything less from USAV LOL But like c'mon... get at least a little creative lol or pay me lol
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