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Post by vbsense02 on Nov 22, 2021 1:35:40 GMT -5
How do you get a RPI of 26 without any top 50 wins??? a bunch of “good” losses 🤷🏻♂️ Play weak teams that win A LOT because they play even weaker teams. 50% is opponent win%. Yes, 25% is opponent’ opponents win% , but since that ends up being close to 800 games (or something like that), that number doesn’t move a lot. So the biggest factor in a team’s RPI is Opponent’s win %.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 22, 2021 4:35:18 GMT -5
How do you get a RPI of 26 without any top 50 wins??? It's the magic of RPI.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 22, 2021 7:41:06 GMT -5
How do you get a RPI of 26 without any top 50 wins??? It's the magic of RPI. They have a Pablo of #28 as of last Monday. This isn't an RPI issue as much as the T25/T50 cutoff criteria (which isn't necessary a bad thing). They have the highest ranked RPI w/o any bonus points (other than scheduling.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 22, 2021 8:14:25 GMT -5
They have a Pablo of #28 as of last Monday. This isn't an RPI issue as much as the T25/T50 cutoff criteria (which isn't necessary a bad thing). They have the highest ranked RPI w/o any bonus points (other than scheduling. But how much is their Pablo reflective of a good first weekend of the season returning all of their starters and pushing a certain top 4 seed that would crush them today. they don’t even keep it competitive against good teams the rest of the season and will certainly be sent to a school that didn’t let them reach 20 points in a set (not that they would get through to the second round unless they get the good fortune of playing Texas A&M in the first).
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 22, 2021 8:17:22 GMT -5
They have a Pablo of #28 as of last Monday. This isn't an RPI issue as much as the T25/T50 cutoff criteria (which isn't necessary a bad thing). They have the highest ranked RPI w/o any bonus points (other than scheduling. But how much is their Pablo reflective of a good first weekend of the season returning all of their starters and pushing a certain top 4 seed that would crush them today. they don’t even keep it competitive against good teams the rest of the season and will certainly be sent to a school that didn’t let them reach 20 points in a set (not that they would get through to the second round unless they get the good fortune of playing Texas A&M in the first). There are a lot of tournament worthy teams that aren't competitive against Texas and Baylor.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 22, 2021 8:59:58 GMT -5
It's an old argument, but I tend to fall on the side that says you have to beat a few top teams to be a top team. It's not enough just to schedule a bunch of them and lose to all of them.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 22, 2021 9:10:16 GMT -5
They have a Pablo of #28 as of last Monday. This isn't an RPI issue as much as the T25/T50 cutoff criteria (which isn't necessary a bad thing). They have the highest ranked RPI w/o any bonus points (other than scheduling. What’s their best Pablo win?
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Post by badgerblockparty on Nov 22, 2021 9:30:56 GMT -5
How do you get a RPI of 26 without any top 50 wins??? marquette is at 15 with 1... playing wisconsin, kentucky, creighton x3 will help that So Marquette's best win is Texas A&M who will not be top 50 after playing Missouri twice or Hawaii who has a RPI of 63
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Post by trojansc on Nov 22, 2021 9:52:09 GMT -5
marquette is at 15 with 1... playing wisconsin, kentucky, creighton x3 will help that So Marquette's best win is Texas A&M who will not be top 50 after playing Missouri twice or Hawaii who has a RPI of 63 53* for Hawaii. If Hawaii doesn't win twice this weekend, Marquette could be 0-for T50 wins too.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 22, 2021 10:08:53 GMT -5
They have a Pablo of #28 as of last Monday. This isn't an RPI issue as much as the T25/T50 cutoff criteria (which isn't necessary a bad thing). They have the highest ranked RPI w/o any bonus points (other than scheduling. What’s their best Pablo win? LSU #47 I know Pablo isn't a criteria. But I just don't get much heartburn over Rice's lack of T50 wins and getting an at-large bid because of their quality Pablo rating. Ball State getting an at-large w/o any T50 wins and their Pablo #65 is a problem to me.
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Post by txnut on Nov 22, 2021 10:48:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure they deserve a bid. But I'm not upset if they get a bid.
I bet they get in especially since they had to quit last tournament due to COVID. I know that should have no bearing, but I think it'll be in the back of the committees minds.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 22, 2021 10:51:53 GMT -5
What’s their best Pablo win? LSU #47 I know Pablo isn't a criteria. But I just don't get much heartburn over Rice's lack of T50 wins and getting an at-large bid because of their quality Pablo rating. Ball State getting an at-large w/o any T50 wins and their Pablo #65 is a problem to me. The problem is that it incentivizes teams like Rice and WKU to schedule extremely weak if we reward them for how good they are opposed to what they actually did with their schedule. And it incentivizes their conferences to keep scheduling these wacky 12 game conference seasons where the top teams don't even play each other. It''s not fun, we should incentivize teams playing teams at their level.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 11:23:39 GMT -5
LSU #47 I know Pablo isn't a criteria. But I just don't get much heartburn over Rice's lack of T50 wins and getting an at-large bid because of their quality Pablo rating. Ball State getting an at-large w/o any T50 wins and their Pablo #65 is a problem to me. The problem is that it incentivizes teams like Rice and WKU to schedule extremely weak if we reward them for how good they are opposed to what they actually did with their schedule. And it incentivizes their conferences to keep scheduling these wacky 12 game conference seasons where the top teams don't even play each other. It''s not fun, we should incentivize teams playing teams at their level. what? Rice didn’t schedule weak. They scheduled very tough but now you’re complaining about them scheduling too easily ? WKU scheduled too easily but not rice
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 22, 2021 11:26:03 GMT -5
LSU #47 I know Pablo isn't a criteria. But I just don't get much heartburn over Rice's lack of T50 wins and getting an at-large bid because of their quality Pablo rating. Ball State getting an at-large w/o any T50 wins and their Pablo #65 is a problem to me. The problem is that it incentivizes teams like Rice and WKU to schedule extremely weak if we reward them for how good they are opposed to what they actually did with their schedule. And it incentivizes their conferences to keep scheduling these wacky 12 game conference seasons where the top teams don't even play each other. It''s not fun, we should incentivize teams playing teams at their level. Rice had a tough schedule in the non conference. Western Kentucky didn't have nearly as tough a schedule, but then were able to get a couple T50 wins from teams that were no where close to as good as 4 of the 5 losses Rice had in the non-conference. I am not a fan of the C-USA schedule, but I don't see Rice responsible for this.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 22, 2021 11:37:15 GMT -5
The problem is that it incentivizes teams like Rice and WKU to schedule extremely weak if we reward them for how good they are opposed to what they actually did with their schedule. And it incentivizes their conferences to keep scheduling these wacky 12 game conference seasons where the top teams don't even play each other. It''s not fun, we should incentivize teams playing teams at their level. what? Rice didn’t schedule weak. They scheduled very tough but now you’re complaining about them scheduling too easily ? WKU scheduled too easily but not rice I’m sorry, I misspoke and am more referring to playing good teams and winning against them, the situation is definitely different between the two teams. Rice did not win their tough matches, but I guess they couldn’t expect LSU to be so bad. I think it’s reasonable to expect at-large teams in non-power conferences to both schedule tough and win some of those games.
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