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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2021 15:24:43 GMT -5
It was the same way from 1984-1997. Only USC has approached UT’s level of dysfunction among football blue bloods. It always comes down to coaching, and Texas has a lot of swings and misses. Doesn’t change the fact that the NIL and transfer changes are going to make it a lot rougher for programs to compete with the deep pockets. Sooner or later it’s going to create a clearer cleave in sports programs than already exists. To me that was the biggest factor in UT and OU’s move to the SEC. While it was about money, per se, it wasn’t about increased revenue, at least for Texas. It was about being affiliated with other schools who will support an overarching structure which allows basically an unlimited spending cap, no matter how big a dissonance that creates within an institution ostensibly about providing a higher education. It is going to be painful for UT and OU for a few years. My friends in Oklahoma athletics are saying that this is the main reason that Lincoln Riley left for USC, it was going to be easier to be competitive financially within the Pac 12 than it is to lag behind all the deep pockets in the SEC until they become full fledged members and get 100% of the cut. It’s not going to be financially painful for Texas. UT is in its own stratosphere in that regard. OU made a decision to tie their sports fate to UT on an administrative level more than a decade ago. They’ve been joined to the hip since. But OU has to be smart with their money and be careful about how they invest their resources in ways that UT doesn’t. Of course, the implication is that Texas hasn’t exactly been wise when it comes to how they’ve spent their money. Certainly in football coaching hires, contracts, and extensions, that has absolutely been the case.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 11, 2021 15:47:05 GMT -5
I'll be curious if this financial payout continues/discontinues after the volleyball seniors conclude their season this month. I mean, would "local" establishments continue paying these volleyball players if they are in Europe or Asia playing pro volleyball outside the U.S.?
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2021 15:51:52 GMT -5
I'll be curious if this financial payout continues/discontinues after the volleyball seniors conclude their season this month. I mean, would "local" establishments continue paying these volleyball players if they are in Europe or Asia playing pro volleyball outside the U.S.? They sign a contract, so yes. The contracts I’ve seen are annual. But the contract is with the individual player. Doesn’t have anything to do with performance, enrollment, health, etc.. You’re literally paying them for their name, likeness, image for a specified amount of time.
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Post by notwvb on Dec 20, 2021 13:15:23 GMT -5
Yesterday's CBSSports: "Iowa offensive lineman Tyler Linderbaum recently came into some hefty money thanks to name, image and likeness deals. But not all of it went into his pockets. Rather, the Iowa star used $30,000 of his NIL money as a donation to the Iowa Children’s Hospital. He tweeted a picture Friday of the cartoon-sized check." Heartening. Don't imagine this kind of thoughtfulness and generosity is isolated to FB NIL $$$. Way to give back.
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Post by ilikecorn on Dec 20, 2021 17:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 20, 2021 17:40:28 GMT -5
I'll be curious if this financial payout continues/discontinues after the volleyball seniors conclude their season this month. I mean, would "local" establishments continue paying these volleyball players if they are in Europe or Asia playing pro volleyball outside the U.S.? They sign a contract, so yes. The contracts I’ve seen are annual. But the contract is with the individual player. Doesn’t have anything to do with performance, enrollment, health, etc.. You’re literally paying them for their name, likeness, image for a specified amount of time. I'll be interested to see if there is an evolution to "team contracts". I.e. Business X pays for the entire TX volleyball team to show up and do a promo or a commercial. If I'm in the athletics department, I'm gonna work hard to push that and spread the wealth around.
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Post by knapplc on Dec 20, 2021 17:44:18 GMT -5
A deal like this announced in December? That seems like she's not leaving. Interesting. Is it just through the end of this school year?
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Post by slxpress on Dec 20, 2021 20:50:26 GMT -5
A deal like this announced in December? That seems like she's not leaving. Interesting. Is it just through the end of this school year? It can be for whatever time period is negotiated between the sponsor and the athlete, for whatever amount of pay. There’s no guidance in that regard unless the state of Nebraska has special rules I’m not aware of. It doesn’t have to be an indication she’s staying after this season though. What’s interesting to me is the use of the block “N” vollleyball on her shirt. That’s the tricky part that has to get by compliance at the school. If you’re paying for a player’s NIL, that’s all you’re paying for. The school still has to approve of any use of branded materials.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 20, 2021 21:10:16 GMT -5
They sign a contract, so yes. The contracts I’ve seen are annual. But the contract is with the individual player. Doesn’t have anything to do with performance, enrollment, health, etc.. You’re literally paying them for their name, likeness, image for a specified amount of time. I'll be interested to see if there is an evolution to "team contracts". I.e. Business X pays for the entire TX volleyball team to show up and do a promo or a commercial. If I'm in the athletics department, I'm gonna work hard to push that and spread the wealth around. That’s a separate thing entirely, though. You’re not talking about an evolution. Involving the schools themselves, and any of their branding, requires a negotiated agreement with the schools. Then, if you’re paying the players, they each have to sign a separate NIL to participate, and they’re able to negotiate individually regarding terms. A school can’t force them to sign, nor can they dictate the terms. It seems like the Kentucky men’s basketball team has something like that in place, for attending some charity basketball camps around the state, but that’s the only team based NIL deal I’m aware of. I’m sure there will be more as more money flows through these deals. I’m of the opinion people are still vastly underestimating how much this will change college sports. We’re just seeing the first trickles of it. At some point relatively soon it will be a dominating factor. Because these aren’t marketing/economic decisions being made alone. That’s what people don’t get. Many of these NIL deals are going to be less driven from a business end, and more from a desire to be associated with their favorite program, and feeling like they’re helping to bring more success. There’s only going to be so much money available for volleyball compared to football and men’s basketball, but even a fraction of those amounts will have a big impact. And there’s going to be a lot more money in volleyball than almost all other sports outside the main ones. The interesting one to me is the Clark Field Collective at UT, which claims to have raised $10m to give to athletes across the entire athletic department. I haven’t seen anything from them yet that’s specifically tied to any athlete or team, but that could be a lot of cheddar, especially if they’re able to raise a lot more. I also don’t understand how it impacts donations to the athletic department itself, although the largest portion of that is tied to preferential ticket sales and various naming rights for the big capital improvements.
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Post by volleyaudience on Dec 20, 2021 21:29:54 GMT -5
This probably bodes well for Nebraska and Texas recruiting as wells they almost exclusively make up the top 10 (not that they need the help) Not that they need help is a great line.😉
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Post by bayarea on Jan 9, 2022 17:13:07 GMT -5
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 9, 2022 17:17:00 GMT -5
On the Nebraska thread, there is talk that Nikon Hames can afford to return next fall not on scholarship, due to her NIL earnings. There is a growing imbalance of the "Haves" and "Have Not" schools, with regard to NIL. (I had to)
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Post by nellynel on Jan 9, 2022 17:24:56 GMT -5
Says the man that dominates college football.
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Post by azsker on Jan 9, 2022 18:56:53 GMT -5
Surprised Roddy isn’t on this list..but I feel that’s about to change
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Post by Redoutwest on Jan 9, 2022 19:00:01 GMT -5
Says the man that dominates college football. You know there is something to it if you have Nick worried.
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