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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Aug 2, 2022 10:12:40 GMT -5
I would assume Media Day is about creating excitement and interest in the teams and not about grilling coaches or making student athletes feel uncomfortable. But maybe that's just me. Big 10 Football Media days were last week. If an equivalent article had come out about one of the conference football coaches, would you have also expected that to go unaddressed? Was last week the first time ever that Football has had a media day? Let's keep it in context please. This great two-day event is about shining the spotlight on Women's Volleyball in the B1G and garnering more interest. Grilling coaches, about unflattering articles, on air doesn't seem like the best way to do that. But I'm not a PR person. Regardless, I think those questions should be asked by Indiana media if they haven't already. I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for people to get their pound of flesh. I've never watched a college football Media Day, are those types of questions commonplace? Regardless, I think those questions should be asked by Indiana media, if they haven't already. I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for people to get their pound of flesh. |
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Post by greenpier on Aug 2, 2022 10:21:49 GMT -5
Actual fact #1: Two assistant coaches left within weeks of each other after the end of the season Actual fact #2: Two highly recruited and publicized student athletes left the program after a single season (last year) Actual fact #3: More student athletes have left recently Actual fact #4: Somebody upset with the program sent discouraging letters to prospective student athletes Actual fact #5: This coach came in with much self-created fanfare and from another B1G volleyball program that he "turned around" Actual fact #6: I am a NCAA Division I Women's Volleyball fan, and an Indiana University alum who cares about that vball program There are your facts. Indiana will be a Volleytalk favorite for the 2022 season |
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Post by vb on Aug 2, 2022 10:39:22 GMT -5
‘any publicity is good publicity’ or ‘there’s no such thing as bad publicity’
…just saying
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 2, 2022 10:39:22 GMT -5
I would assume Media Day is about creating excitement and interest in the teams and not about grilling coaches or making student athletes feel uncomfortable. But maybe that's just me. Big 10 Football Media days were last week. If an equivalent article had come out about one of the conference football coaches, would you have also expected that to go unaddressed? I wouldn't. Though if this was football, I think the coach would have been fired already. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Aug 2, 2022 11:43:34 GMT -5
Was last week the first time ever that Football has had a media day? Let's keep it in context please. This great two-day event is about shining the spotlight on Women's Volleyball in the B1G and garnering more interest. Grilling coaches, about unflattering articles, on air doesn't seem like the best way to do that. But I'm not a PR person. Regardless, I think those questions should be asked by Indiana media if they haven't already. I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for people to get their pound of flesh. I've never watched a college football Media Day, are those types of questions commonplace? Regardless, I think those questions should be asked by Indiana media, if they haven't already. I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for people to get their pound of flesh. If the allegations are even marginally true, it's not about "getting a pound of flesh." That really minimizes the accounts that players have brought forth, and you should consider amending that phrasing. The only context or prism I'm interested in viewing this through is the mental health of college athletes. The allegations in that article were very serious, and nobody in the media (outside of the IU student newspaper) seems to have the courage or interest to bring it up. And the next time a college athlete commits suicide, then we'll see a flurry of pieces talking about how the mental health aspect needs to be taken seriously. Then a few weeks later, that memory will fade. Meanwhile a coach that has a program eroding under his feet, with coaches, players and recruits jumping ship at a rate rarely seen, has not had to publicly address the allegations of mental abuse from him toward his players. If you're cool with that, that's your choice. I find it troubling. I'm gonna let the phrase stand for now. It's more directed at headhunters than at students with allegations. I am often too glib, and for that I will apologize. If any loved ones of yours has suffered abuse at the hands of a coach or other players, well that is deplorable and shouldn't be tolerated. Even if Media Day was the place to address Aird's issues (and I still don't think it is), all you would get is his spin on the matter which won't leave you feeling satisfied either. Plus, two players who I assume will have his back and defend him as a good coach. Will he be held accountable on a grand stage? Signs point to no. I know of a player who discontinued her student athlete career because of mental strain and undue pressure put on her by her coach. when she was in the coach's office explaining why she was done, the coach was surprised and basically said she was one of her favorite players. My point is that coaches often don't see their behavior as being negative. Bottom line is that there should be an investigation and there are questions Aird needs to answer. I just don't think the inaugural B1G TEN Media Day is where it should happen. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 2, 2022 12:01:11 GMT -5
If the allegations are even marginally true, it's not about "getting a pound of flesh." That really minimizes the accounts that players have brought forth, and you should consider amending that phrasing. The only context or prism I'm interested in viewing this through is the mental health of college athletes. The allegations in that article were very serious, and nobody in the media (outside of the IU student newspaper) seems to have the courage or interest to bring it up. And the next time a college athlete commits suicide, then we'll see a flurry of pieces talking about how the mental health aspect needs to be taken seriously. Then a few weeks later, that memory will fade. Meanwhile a coach that has a program eroding under his feet, with coaches, players and recruits jumping ship at a rate rarely seen, has not had to publicly address the allegations of mental abuse from him toward his players. If you're cool with that, that's your choice. I find it troubling. I'm gonna let the phrase stand for now. It's more directed at headhunters than at students with allegations. I am often too glib, and for that I will apologize. If any loved ones of yours has suffered abuse at the hands of a coach or other players, well that is deplorable and shouldn't be tolerated. Even if Media Day was the place to address Aird's issues (and I still don't think it is), all you would get is his spin on the matter which won't leave you feeling satisfied either. Plus, two players who I assume will have his back and defend him as a good coach. Will he be held accountable on a grand stage? Signs point to no. I know of a player who discontinued her student athlete career because of mental strain and undue pressure put on her by her coach. when she was in the coach's office explaining why she was done, the coach was surprised and basically said she was one of her favorite players. My point is that coaches often don't see their behavior as being negative. Bottom line is that there should be an investigation and there are questions Aird needs to answer. I just don't think the inaugural B1G TEN Media Day is where it should happen. There was an investigation. |
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Post by jolanda on Aug 2, 2022 12:11:15 GMT -5
Has anyone maybe considered that it’s not as bad as it was made out to be?? IU is still getting recruits both domestic and international. IU just ran weeks of volleyball camps with lots of girls.
Do you think people would send their young daughters if it was that bad.
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Post by trollhunter on Aug 2, 2022 12:20:02 GMT -5
Noticed he talked a good bit about Men's Volleyball in the media day clips I saw. He seemed gushing with excitement. Wonder if he is trying to lay some groundwork to transition to the Men's side soon, as the writing is on the wall for him. Anyone else notice this, or am I reading between the lines too much?
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Aug 2, 2022 12:22:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna let the phrase stand for now. It's more directed at headhunters than at students with allegations. I am often too glib, and for that I will apologize. If any loved ones of yours has suffered abuse at the hands of a coach or other players, well that is deplorable and shouldn't be tolerated. Even if Media Day was the place to address Aird's issues (and I still don't think it is), all you would get is his spin on the matter which won't leave you feeling satisfied either. Plus, two players who I assume will have his back and defend him as a good coach. Will he be held accountable on a grand stage? Signs point to no. I know of a player who discontinued her student athlete career because of mental strain and undue pressure put on her by her coach. when she was in the coach's office explaining why she was done, the coach was surprised and basically said she was one of her favorite players. My point is that coaches often don't see their behavior as being negative. Bottom line is that there should be an investigation and there are questions Aird needs to answer. I just don't think the inaugural B1G TEN Media Day is where it should happen. There was an investigation. Thank you for the follow up. Was anything determined? |
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Post by rjaege on Aug 3, 2022 5:00:09 GMT -5
Please let the young women who have chosen to play volleyball at IU do so without all this controversy. They deserve a chance to play without all this vitriol toward their coach. Coach Aird will now have to prove himself, if he can't IU will move on. Just let this work itself out. Let the IU players have a positive college volleyball experience. At this point are Aird or Aird-critics more damaging to the players?
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Post by buckeyevolley on Aug 3, 2022 18:17:22 GMT -5
With all the respect and Not trying to undermine any accusation....... Is there an agenda against SA? Seems like a nice guy. I see athletes transferring all the time, For example, UF lost 7 players 2 years ago and didn't cause such a histeria and didn't saw anyone asking for MW head.... All the school have transfer coming in and going every year. What is the big issue here?
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Post by eazy on Aug 3, 2022 18:34:29 GMT -5
With all the respect and Not trying to undermine any accusation....... Is there an agenda against SA? Seems like a nice guy. I see athletes transferring all the time, For example, UF lost 7 players 2 years ago and didn't cause such a histeria and didn't saw anyone asking for MW head.... All the school have transfer coming in and going every year. What is the big issue here? |
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Post by give me the og-ball-u on Aug 3, 2022 18:35:01 GMT -5
With all the respect and Not trying to undermine any accusation....... Is there an agenda against SA? Seems like a nice guy. I see athletes transferring all the time, For example, UF lost 7 players 2 years ago and didn't cause such a histeria and didn't saw anyone asking for MW head.... All the school have transfer coming in and going every year. What is the big issue here? this was like 6 months ago |
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Post by buckeyevolley on Aug 3, 2022 21:22:32 GMT -5
With all the respect and Not trying to undermine any accusation....... Is there an agenda against SA? Seems like a nice guy. I see athletes transferring all the time, For example, UF lost 7 players 2 years ago and didn't cause such a histeria and didn't saw anyone asking for MW head.... All the school have transfer coming in and going every year. What is the big issue here? Not saying isn't true. I bet is the same story in most programs; that's why you have so many transfer. TG for the portal!! As a former athlete (long long time ago) we played under worst conditions. Maybe that's why we have so many unstable adults today  We are living in a different world and todays kids can't be treated as we used to be treated..... I grew in a different world (not saying it was correct) you were expected to work hard, accept the challenge, grow though skin, mental toughness and learn how to deal with adversity. Good luck to everyone and hope SA learn that we are living in a different world and change for the best. As for the former players hope they can overcome this situation. Go Bucks!! |
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Post by n00b on Aug 3, 2022 21:25:54 GMT -5
With all the respect and Not trying to undermine any accusation....... Is there an agenda against SA? Seems like a nice guy. I see athletes transferring all the time, For example, UF lost 7 players 2 years ago and didn't cause such a histeria and didn't saw anyone asking for MW head.... All the school have transfer coming in and going every year. What is the big issue here? I have an agenda against coaches who have a pattern of making their athlete's lives miserable. Doesn't matter who it is. I haven't heard that Mary Wise is that coach. |
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