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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 23:26:51 GMT -5
There are a lot of moving pieces still. We played pretty poorly for some periods of this match against Marquette. It wasn’t all down to Franklin having an off night. Absolutely agree. I think Franklin will be fine. She was used to having to do it all at MSU. Once she figures that out, it will go better. Keeping her in those six rotations probably just reinforced that notion. Demps is good enough to steal backrow rotations from Franklin. Through three games Franklin has not been all that solid or consistant in the back row. If she improves then yes keep her out there 6 rotations but she isn't all that and a bag of chips at this point. Until that point Demps deserves to be out there.
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Post by taxidea on Sept 2, 2022 23:37:40 GMT -5
I could almost see the character of this team from this match. You could see that they are going to try different things. The roles are getting a bit clearer, and there are options off the bench. They still need to get some stability passing. I was happy to see the Badgers come out with more of a 'killer' vibe, which I thought was lacking so far. The connections to the hitters, especially to the middles and right side really fed that energy. Some of the combination attacks that they showed, helped my energy level as well. I also think that the defensive and blocking effort was better, even though Marquette's tips and tools at the net, we're keeping them in the match and spiking the hypertension. Lots of positives and players really stepping it up, including the setters. To me, Hart is gonna be the X this season for the Badgers. This too...Gooshteckin is going to be a huge star, and I'm aall in on that kid. Hope we continue to see improvement - especially passing and setting - to help us get more comfortable wins going forward.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 2, 2022 23:42:24 GMT -5
Unless, you know, they need her to come in when things were looking bleak and help them win a match over a ranked opponent! My post was a response to some pretty adament posters that Jade wouldn't be seeing the floor in this 6-2 offense and would be the 'odd woman out'. The only set Demps started tonight was the 4th, at opp when Hart sat out and Devyn slid over to MB. Just like last weekend. Demps came in when Franklin was struggling in the third set, and help give them a spark. But soon Hart is going to be ready to play full matches. That means Devyn won't be sliding over to the middle. And if your playing time is going to depend on Franklin having a bad enough set or night to get pulled, well.... Things may change, of course. Demps did a fine job. But unless Franklin (or somebody else) needs a relief pitcher on Sunday, I don't expect to see much of Demps. And one last time, I would very much like to see them switch to a 5-2, so that the Smrek/Demps opp combo was a regular feature of the offense. I *want* Demps on the floor! But in this version of the 6-2, I don't think we're gonna see very much of her.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 23:49:58 GMT -5
The only set Demps started tonight was the 4th, at opp when Hart sat out and Devyn slid over to MB. Just like last weekend. Demps came in when Franklin was struggling in the third set, and help give them a spark. But soon Hart is going to be ready to play full matches. That means Devyn won't be sliding over to the middle. And if your playing time is going to depend on Franklin having a bad enough set or night to get pulled, well.... Things may change, of course. Demps did a fine job. But unless Franklin (or somebody else) needs a relief pitcher on Sunday, I don't expect to see much of Demps. And one last time, I would very much like to see them switch to a 5-2, so that the Smrek/Demps opp combo was a regular feature of the offense. I *want* Demps on the floor! But in this version of the 6-2, I don't think we're gonna see very much of her. Franklin has been subpar in the backrow for a good part of this season. Demps played most of the 3rd and she is a BIG reason we turned the game around. And yes she will continue to see run especially until Shenal is available.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 3, 2022 0:04:04 GMT -5
Franklin has been subpar in the backrow for a good part of this season. "This season" has been three whole matches long. I wouldn't draw a whole lot of "conclusion" from it - good, bad , or otherwise - about anybody.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 3, 2022 0:10:06 GMT -5
"This season" has been three whole matches long. I wouldn't draw a whole lot of "conclusion" from it - good, bad , or otherwise - about anybody. \ Plus, I will say, although she had an off match tonight, thanks Demps for helping pick her and the team up, if she makes a 1 pass and then has to hit, I do have some confidence in her getting a kill or a not great transition opportunity for the other team in that situation!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 0:12:06 GMT -5
"This season" has been three whole matches long. I wouldn't draw a whole lot of "conclusion" from it - good, bad , or otherwise - about anybody. But you have seemed to do so regarding Demps status as a sideliner ha ha.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 3, 2022 0:12:30 GMT -5
Agree. Demps is faster. Franklin is stronger. In the back row, I value defense more. With our OOS problem is largely solved by a healthy Ozol and Franklin, back row attack is significantly less important now. Furthermore, resting Franklin helps offense too.Don't get me wrong, I love Franklin as much as the next guy, but I vote for Demps in the back. EDIT: And the Demps' serves, they might look weak but the balls float and make aces..........and next to zero errors. Do we have enough sub for this to happen?
You could just have one setter rotate to the front row with the left sides being able to pass, regardless of who they are, so a 5-1 but not a huge issue!
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 3, 2022 0:15:28 GMT -5
There are a lot of moving pieces still. We played pretty poorly for some periods of this match against Marquette. It wasn’t all down to Franklin having an off night. Honestly, I wonder if the period from about 13-5 down in the third to up 22-13 in the fourth is really the only time this team has played truly well on a consistent basis for its potential this season! There are clearly issues, but the upside is clear too!
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Post by robtearle on Sept 3, 2022 0:22:26 GMT -5
"This season" has been three whole matches long. I wouldn't draw a whole lot of "conclusion" from it - good, bad , or otherwise - about anybody. But you have seemed to do so regarding Demps status as a sideliner ha ha. To quote myself, from a whole half-hour ago: THINGS MAY CHANGE, of course. ... But unless Franklin (or somebody else) needs a relief pitcher on Sunday, I don't expect to see much of Demps. And one last time [or not] I would very much like to see them switch to a 5-2, so that the Smrek/Demps opp combo was a regular feature of the offense. I WANT DEMPS ON THE FLOOR! But in this version of the 6-2, I don't think we're gonna see very much of her.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 0:30:28 GMT -5
But you have seemed to do so regarding Demps status as a sideliner ha ha. To quote myself, from a whole half-hour ago: THINGS MAY CHANGE, of course. ... But unless Franklin (or somebody else) needs a relief pitcher on Sunday, I don't expect to see much of Demps. And one last time [or not] I would very much like to see them switch to a 5-2, so that the Smrek/Demps opp combo was a regular feature of the offense. I WANT DEMPS ON THE FLOOR! But in this version of the 6-2, I don't think we're gonna see very much of her. Fair enough. I think it is worth running out of subs if we are still struggling significantly in the back row. Ideally we'll have Izzy as the 5-1 setter to finish out a set should that occur.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 3, 2022 0:31:11 GMT -5
Scoring by setter by set:
Izzy - 12-10, 14-11, 13-11, 10-8; total 49-40 MJ - 13-9, 9-14, 12-10, 15-13; total 49-46
(I hope I did it right, I'm getting tired)
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Post by robtearle on Sept 3, 2022 10:38:47 GMT -5
Scoring by setter by set: Izzy - 12-10, 14-11, 13-11, 10-8; total 49-40 MJ - 13-9, 9-14, 12-10, 15-13; total 49-46 (I hope I did it right, I'm getting tired) Also worth noting that they swapped the opposites last night. That is to say, who was on the court with who. Last weekend Smrek and Izzy were always on the court together, while MJ was on with Devyn and then Demps. Last night, it was Smrek and MJ always on the floor together, and Izzy with Devyn and then Demps in the 4th set. I don't know if that messes up these comparisons one weekend to the next, or "strengthens" it that Izzy seems to be "winning", albeit slightly", regardless of who she is opposite. The guy I was sitting next to last night - new seats, new people - said he has seen attack percentages by setter from last weekend, and Izzy's were better. I don't really know who he is or where he saw them, etc., so FWIW.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 3, 2022 12:32:43 GMT -5
Devyn was swinging freer with Izzy setting her I felt.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 3, 2022 13:52:57 GMT -5
Scoring by setter by set: Izzy - 12-10, 14-11, 13-11, 10-8; total 49-40 MJ - 13-9, 9-14, 12-10, 15-13; total 49-46 (I hope I did it right, I'm getting tired) Also worth noting that they swapped the opposites last night. That is to say, who was on the court with who. Last weekend Smrek and Izzy were always on the court together, while MJ was on with Devyn and then Demps. Last night, it was Smrek and MJ always on the floor together, and Izzy with Devyn and then Demps in the 4th set. I don't know if that messes up these comparisons one weekend to the next, or "strengthens" it that Izzy seems to be "winning", albeit slightly", regardless of who she is opposite. The guy I was sitting next to last night - new seats, new people - said he has seen attack percentages by setter from last weekend, and Izzy's were better. I don't really know who he is or where he saw them, etc., so FWIW. Speaking of seats, it seems like there are a lot more " knowledgeable" people in the stands than there were last year..
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