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Post by buckypete on Sept 5, 2022 10:23:06 GMT -5
I think it's been highly underrated how quietly effective Crawford has been at so many facets of the game. The comeback in the third set against Marquette was a classic example when in a four point stretch she had an ace, a two-ball set to Orzol for a kill, a great dig on a setter dump that led to a point, and another two-ball set to Orzol for a kill. She had a couple more really great digs against High Point, and her serve is quietly efficient at stressing the other team without errors.
It doesn't jump off the stat sheet, but I think she's been one of the most valuable pieces thus far.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 5, 2022 10:23:34 GMT -5
What "hype" Franklin has gotten should have nothing to do with an on-court evaluation of performance. Hype or not Franklin has been up and down. But her highs can be eye catching. Jade on the other hand hasn't had a hitting error yet. She also helped turn the Marquette game around. That is IMPRESSIVE. This list is who in my mind have been most impressive overall through two weeks and I DO include expectations and coming off of injury as considerations. Also, I don't really put to much stock into the High Point game stats. They were playing the 3rd of FOUR games in only 3 days. "expectations" should have nothing to do with an on-court evaluation of performance.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 5, 2022 10:26:55 GMT -5
What "hype" Franklin has gotten should have nothing to do with an on-court evaluation of performance. Hype or not Franklin has been up and down. But her highs can be eye catching. Jade on the other hand hasn't had a hitting error yet. She also helped turn the Marquette game around. That is IMPRESSIVE. This list is who in my mind have been most impressive overall through two weeks and I DO include expectations and coming off of injury as considerations. Also, I don't really put to much stock into the High Point game stats. They were playing the 3rd of FOUR games in only 3 days. Demps - 12 kills, one error, 36 swings. .306 percent
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 10:31:52 GMT -5
Hype or not Franklin has been up and down. But her highs can be eye catching. Jade on the other hand hasn't had a hitting error yet. She also helped turn the Marquette game around. That is IMPRESSIVE. This list is who in my mind have been most impressive overall through two weeks and I DO include expectations and coming off of injury as considerations. Also, I don't really put to much stock into the High Point game stats. They were playing the 3rd of FOUR games in only 3 days. "expectations" should have nothing to do with an on-court evaluation of performance. It certainly can impact how impressive people are playing as it adds context to the stat line. Stats do not tell the whole story. Lets say in Week 3 Franklin has a small edge in kills and hitting percentage in your world Franklin is more impressive even though Hart is coming off injury and still working on her max reach numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 10:40:15 GMT -5
Hype or not Franklin has been up and down. But her highs can be eye catching. Jade on the other hand hasn't had a hitting error yet. She also helped turn the Marquette game around. That is IMPRESSIVE. This list is who in my mind have been most impressive overall through two weeks and I DO include expectations and coming off of injury as considerations. Also, I don't really put to much stock into the High Point game stats. They were playing the 3rd of FOUR games in only 3 days. Demps - 12 kills, one error, 36 swings. .306 percent I thought I heard zero errors listening to the radio announcers when discussing the team. But if you want to talk errors. How about Franklins 8 against Marquette.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 5, 2022 10:52:42 GMT -5
Demps - 12 kills, one error, 36 swings. .306 percent I thought I heard zero errors listening to the radio announcers when discussing the team. But if you want to talk errors. How about Franklins 8 against Marquette. We get it. You want Demps on the floor. Try not to be so transparent about that bias when 'discussing' things.
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Post by ndodge on Sept 5, 2022 11:10:16 GMT -5
I think it's been highly underrated how quietly effective Crawford has been at so many facets of the game. The comeback in the third set against Marquette was a classic example when in a four point stretch she had an ace, a two-ball set to Orzol for a kill, a great dig on a setter dump that led to a point, and another two-ball set to Orzol for a kill. She had a couple more really great digs against High Point, and her serve is quietly efficient at stressing the other team without errors. It doesn't jump off the stat sheet, but I think she's been one of the most valuable pieces thus far. I've thought the exact same thing and that set of points you mentioned just cemented it. She's had 7 assists thus far being backup setter in that one 1/2 rotation. GG, in comparison, has had 16.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 11:22:28 GMT -5
I thought I heard zero errors listening to the radio announcers when discussing the team. But if you want to talk errors. How about Franklins 8 against Marquette. We get it. You want Demps on the floor. Try not to be so transparent about that bias when 'discussing' things. Don't worry Franklin isn't going anywhere. She is an elite OOS hitter. Demps performance though has ensured she will be getting playing time. Kind of a long way from being the odd one out. Proper evaluation isn't being done on Big Ten Networks part either. If you think I am biased toward Demps go back and find their 2 minute game synopsis after Marquette game. Robinson rightly mentioned first and then Franklin??! What? Franklin has an uneven game but Grace is opining on how great Franklin was in back row while Big Ten is showing a highlight of a Wisconsin Franklin kill. BTN needs to not insult the intelligence of the fan. Orzol didn't have a double double but should have showcased before Franklin.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 5, 2022 11:31:45 GMT -5
We get it. You want Demps on the floor. Try not to be so transparent about that bias when 'discussing' things. Don't worry Franklin isn't going anywhere. She is an elite OOS hitter. Demps performance though has ensured she will be getting playing time. Kind of a long way from being the odd one out. For the foreseeable future - the 10 more matches until Branschreiber becomes available - when Hart is ready to play full matches, and she's essentially there, she and CC will be the MBs. That leaves Franklin, Orzol, Devyn, Smrek and Demps to fill two left side positions and two opposite positions. Five players, four slots. Somebody is not going to get a lot of playing time. Against tougher opponents, they are going to be less apt to 'split time' or trade off sets. It's unfortunate that a very talented player is not going to see much court time, but that's the state of things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 11:43:28 GMT -5
Don't worry Franklin isn't going anywhere. She is an elite OOS hitter. Demps performance though has ensured she will be getting playing time. Kind of a long way from being the odd one out. For the foreseeable future - the 10 more matches until Branschreiber becomes available - when Hart is ready to play full matches, and she's essentially there, she and CC will be the MBs. That leaves Franklin, Orzol, Devyn, Smrek and Demps to fill two left side positions and two opposite positions. Five players, four slots. Somebody is not going to get a lot of playing time. Against tougher opponents, they are going to be less apt to 'split time' or trade off sets. It's unfortunate that a very talented player is not going to see much court time, but that's the state of things. That's assuming they ever go back to Hart playing full time. I am leaning towards more time distribution throughout the game for the players especially until about 6 games are left in regular season. Of course they will want to tighten the rotation at some point. If anything Shenal taking backrow minutes will be more of a threat for Demps to see minutes. Plus Anna will need to step up or you will see Demps getting some of her minutes quite possibly. In the end it will be about performance.
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Post by pull3 on Sept 5, 2022 12:07:04 GMT -5
I am biased. Just run Smrek in the middle ALOT until she missed. Smrek is too much under utilized.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 5, 2022 12:21:12 GMT -5
Since coach Sheffield just won an NC I am going to blindly assume he is going to figure it who goes where without the help of the board.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 12:51:21 GMT -5
I am biased. Just run Smrek in the middle ALOT until she missed. Smrek is too much under utilized. Lot of truth in that. Anna should be able to hit over pretty much any block with good setting.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 5, 2022 13:22:21 GMT -5
What "hype" Franklin has gotten should have nothing to do with an on-court evaluation of performance. Also, I don't really put to much stock into the High Point game stats. They were playing the 3rd of FOUR games in only 3 days. High Point followed the badger match by taking Marquette to 4 sets, and it could have easily been 5 sets. They are definitely an up and down team and the badgers consistently kept them down. Passing was a big part of it, on both sides of the net in different ways.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 5, 2022 13:59:16 GMT -5
Also, I don't really put to much stock into the High Point game stats. They were playing the 3rd of FOUR games in only 3 days. High Point followed the badger match by taking Marquette to 4 sets, and it could have easily been 5 sets. They are definitely an up and down team and the badgers consistently kept them down. Passing was a big part of it, on both sides of the net in different ways. I was not impressed - to say the least - with the 'body language' of the High Point coach during the Marquette match, particularly when things were going badly. 180 degrees opposite of Sheffield, as unsupportive of his players as Sheffield is supportive, as negative as Sheffield remains positive.
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