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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 5, 2022 14:44:42 GMT -5
High Point followed the badger match by taking Marquette to 4 sets, and it could have easily been 5 sets. They are definitely an up and down team and the badgers consistently kept them down. Passing was a big part of it, on both sides of the net in different ways. I was not impressed - to say the least - with the 'body language' of the High Point coach during the Marquette match, particularly when things were going badly. 180 degrees opposite of Sheffield, as unsupportive of his players as Sheffield is supportive, as negative as Sheffield remains positive. Probably explains a lot. He takes his time outs very early in the set too.
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 5, 2022 15:48:14 GMT -5
... It had not occurred to me how dependent the badgers will be on non-setters until I saw Marquette systematically target Ashburn and Hammill in attack. Didn’t realize CC would contribute so much on that front. I think the badgers, and especially GG got better at that as the weekend wore on. She got a lot more comfortable. ... I saw a clip of a Nebraska post-game where they were asking Lexi Rodriguez about her increased OOS opportunities. Point being, this is just apparently a feature of the 6-2. Unfortunately, they are much more set up for that than we are since Rodriguez is very comfortable taking second balls overhand, backsetting, even lifting one foot to make sure she's not stepping in front of the 3 meter line when necessary. And I do really like CC's all-around game and think she's great at taking the second ball - you figure if it's OOS the middle is probably not getting involved and she seems perfectly capable of delivering a good ball to either side of the net. (actually, a funny thought I just had is that if CC was setting second ball and you had a backrow threat available, you could run a biq (bic? backrow quick) as your "middle" option just to keep blockers honest. You'd really have to trust CC's setting to make that happen, though, and I haven't seen any other front-row players who could set overhand so it would just be during her three rotations up front and her half-serving rotation (when she's not the MB anyway)
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Post by aryia111 on Sept 7, 2022 7:19:21 GMT -5
I think it's been highly underrated how quietly effective Crawford has been at so many facets of the game. The comeback in the third set against Marquette was a classic example when in a four point stretch she had an ace, a two-ball set to Orzol for a kill, a great dig on a setter dump that led to a point, and another two-ball set to Orzol for a kill. She had a couple more really great digs against High Point, and her serve is quietly efficient at stressing the other team without errors. It doesn't jump off the stat sheet, but I think she's been one of the most valuable pieces thus far. Just a fun factoid...Crawford is on track to have 5x+ more assists than any 2 middles combined since 2016 where Nelson had .11/set and Williams .03/set. She is on track to have more digs than any 2 middles combined since 2016 where Nelson had .87/set and Williams .22/set
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Post by PeoriaBucky on Sept 7, 2022 8:00:28 GMT -5
[/quote]For the foreseeable future - the 10 more matches until Branschreiber becomes available - when Hart is ready to play full matches, and she's essentially there, she and CC will be the MBs. That leaves Franklin, Orzol, Devyn, Smrek and Demps to fill two left side positions and two opposite positions. Five players, four slots. Somebody is not going to get a lot of playing time. Against tougher opponents, they are going to be less apt to 'split time' or trade off sets. It's unfortunate that a very talented player is not going to see much court time, but that's the state of things.[/quote]
All you say here is true, but this is also a nice insurance policy in case one of our hitters has an injury. It's a long season...
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Post by ndodge on Sept 7, 2022 12:06:03 GMT -5
I'll be buying 1, maybe 2 tickets to MN match. I'll get on stubhub but I'll pay someone here the kind of inflated prices instead if someone has any they are selling. I'll want to get soon, though, in the next day or two, as I don't want it to completely sell out.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 7, 2022 13:30:38 GMT -5
Since coach Sheffield just won an NC I am going to blindly assume he is going to figure it who goes where without the help of the board. Last year he could have rolled ten different lineups out and still had been the favorite to win the NCAA. That Maryland lineup was the best one for sure.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 7, 2022 14:07:38 GMT -5
Since coach Sheffield just won an NC I am going to blindly assume he is going to figure it who goes where without the help of the board. Last year he could have rolled ten different lineups out and still had been the favorite to win the NCAA. Last year, he literally DID roll out 14 different lineups.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Sept 7, 2022 15:18:11 GMT -5
I'll be buying 1, maybe 2 tickets to MN match. I'll get on stubhub but I'll pay someone here the kind of inflated prices instead if someone has any they are selling. I'll want to get soon, though, in the next day or two, as I don't want it to completely sell out. I assume you're talking about the (September) match in Minneapolis, right?
Otherwise you have until mid-late October, and things could change for lots of ticket holders who may have extra tickets in the Field House by then....
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 7, 2022 15:20:40 GMT -5
Since coach Sheffield just won an NC I am going to blindly assume he is going to figure it who goes where without the help of the board. Last year he could have rolled ten different lineups out and still had been the favorite to win the NCAA. Not sure if this is a joke. They just barely won both games in the final 4. Both opponents were really good. Louisville would have won most years. I don't think UW wins with another line-up.
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Post by ndodge on Sept 7, 2022 15:57:28 GMT -5
I'll be buying 1, maybe 2 tickets to MN match. I'll get on stubhub but I'll pay someone here the kind of inflated prices instead if someone has any they are selling. I'll want to get soon, though, in the next day or two, as I don't want it to completely sell out. I assume you're talking about the (September) match in Minneapolis, right?
Otherwise you have until mid-late October, and things could change for lots of ticket holders who may have extra tickets in the Field House by then.... No, I meant Madison and yes, it's kind of early, but I've seen inventory even on stubhub get pretty low for big matches and my trip is already booked, so would just like to make sure I have a ticket.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 7, 2022 20:29:34 GMT -5
... Once Bramschreiber is available and they start subbing Franklin (I'll assume) the whole thing changes, and running out really becomes something to worry about. But Sheffield has been using six subs per rotation for the last three year, at least. So in that respect, nothing new. ... UW regularly ran out of subs in those years. Competitive sets almost always have the first server serve 3 times, and almost never 4 times unless you go well past 25. If you're subbing 6 per rotation then you're running out in the middle of the third rotation, right in the middle of the most crucial points. Last year that meant Rettke serving and Loberg playing back row, and eventually Demps playing front row, which was a small loss but nothing too bad. This year it would mean suddenly playing new serve receive formations and a front row setter that you never play with anymore in those crucial points. I feel like that's a more serious consequence. That being said, Nebraska seems to currently be running a 6-2 with six subs per rotation. FWIW, tonight against Creighton - Nebraska avoids the reverse sweep by winning the 5th set (!) - Nebraska ran their 6-2 with Knuckles subbing in to the back row (with a wrinkle that ultimately doesn't affect the overall count). In the second set, they were right up against the limit; 14 subs used and (mostly) DS Knuckles and 'the other setter' 5' 9" Anni Evans both on the court. So the question was if it lasts another couple sideouts, do they use sub #15 to get a left side hitter in for Knuckles or last year's #1 setter Nicklin Haymes back onto the court in place of shorter Evans? But the set ended before we got an answer. But the third set did last long enough, and what they did was (the opposite of what I expected) sub out Knuckles for outside Haydn Kubik, leaving Evans on the floor as effectively the 5-1 forever setter.. Unfortunately, that set ended before Evans had to rotate to play the front row. But the scores of those sets weren't particularly outrageous, 25-23 and 25-27. So when Bramschreiber is available, if we're still in a 6-2, we can count on sets where 'plan B' goes into effect.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Sept 7, 2022 20:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by plm on Sept 7, 2022 21:32:25 GMT -5
UW regularly ran out of subs in those years. Competitive sets almost always have the first server serve 3 times, and almost never 4 times unless you go well past 25. If you're subbing 6 per rotation then you're running out in the middle of the third rotation, right in the middle of the most crucial points. Last year that meant Rettke serving and Loberg playing back row, and eventually Demps playing front row, which was a small loss but nothing too bad. This year it would mean suddenly playing new serve receive formations and a front row setter that you never play with anymore in those crucial points. I feel like that's a more serious consequence. That being said, Nebraska seems to currently be running a 6-2 with six subs per rotation. FWIW, tonight against Creighton - Nebraska avoids the reverse sweep by winning the 5th set (!) - Nebraska ran their 6-2 with Knuckles subbing in to the back row (with a wrinkle that ultimately doesn't affect the overall count). In the second set, they were right up against the limit; 14 subs used and (mostly) DS Knuckles and 'the other setter' 5' 9" Anni Evans both on the court. So the question was if it lasts another couple sideouts, do they use sub #15 to get a left side hitter in for Knuckles or last year's #1 setter Nicklin Haymes back onto the court in place of shorter Evans? But the set ended before we got an answer. But the third set did last long enough, and what they did was (the opposite of what I expected) sub out Knuckles for outside Haydn Kubik, leaving Evans on the floor as effectively the 5-1 forever setter.. Unfortunately, that set ended before Evans had to rotate to play the front row. But the scores of those sets weren't particularly outrageous, 25-23 and 25-27. So when Bramschreiber is available, if we're still in a 6-2, we can count on sets where 'plan B' goes into effect. I don't get your comment about Knuckles subbing into the back row. She is in the back row all the time except if Hames is the first server in a set Cook may have Knuckles do one rotation in the front row. Knuckles loves to hit. She was a tremendous hitter in high school & club inspite of only being 5' 8".
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Post by robtearle on Sept 7, 2022 21:44:31 GMT -5
FWIW, tonight against Creighton - Nebraska avoids the reverse sweep by winning the 5th set (!) - Nebraska ran their 6-2 with Knuckles subbing in to the back row (with a wrinkle that ultimately doesn't affect the overall count). In the second set, they were right up against the limit; 14 subs used and (mostly) DS Knuckles and 'the other setter' 5' 9" Anni Evans both on the court. So the question was if it lasts another couple sideouts, do they use sub #15 to get a left side hitter in for Knuckles or last year's #1 setter Nicklin Haymes back onto the court in place of shorter Evans? But the set ended before we got an answer. But the third set did last long enough, and what they did was (the opposite of what I expected) sub out Knuckles for outside Haydn Kubik, leaving Evans on the floor as effectively the 5-1 forever setter.. Unfortunately, that set ended before Evans had to rotate to play the front row. But the scores of those sets weren't particularly outrageous, 25-23 and 25-27. So when Bramschreiber is available, if we're still in a 6-2, we can count on sets where 'plan B' goes into effect. I don't get your comment about Knuckles subbing into the back row. She is in the back row all the time except if Hames is the first server in a set Cook may have Knuckles do one rotation in the front row. Knuckles loves to hit. She was a tremendous hitter in high school & club inspite of only being 5' 8". In turn, I don't know what you're asking. The choice at the end of the two sets was how to use the 15th and final sub. At that time, Knuckles was in playing back row, subbed in for Haydn Kubik. And Anni Evans was also in, playing back row (obviously). Only one of them can be subbed out, and the other is going to be playing front row if the set goes long enough. Yes, Knuckles can play a decent outside. That's why I expected Cook to hold on to sub #15 to get Haymes in for Evans, effectively turning the offense back into a good old 5-1 with Haymes setting, leaving Knuckles playing a six rotation left. Instead, Cook used the final sub to bring H-Kubik in for Knuckles, leaving Evans to be the setter for the duration of the set. It ended before Evans had to rotate to the front row, but if had gone a bit longer, she would have been playing a front row setter position. Does that clear it up?
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 7, 2022 23:18:27 GMT -5
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