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Post by basil on Jun 28, 2022 2:27:32 GMT -5
Washington State finally schedules a tough pre-conference, I just wish Arizona would do the same. ASU is definitely looking to make the tourney this year. 1-Huskies 2-Stanford 3-USC 4-Oregon 5-Utah 6/7- ASU/Washington St 8-UCLA 9/10 Arizona / Oregon St 11/12 Colorado / Cal Utah at 5?? UCLA down at 8?? idk about those |
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 1, 2022 0:01:48 GMT -5
(reposted from the USC/UCLA moving to the Big 10 thread)
I'm not sure if it has really been said yet, in particular from the Pac-12 fans here on the board, but if the reporting on this is true, this was a complete trash move by the LA schools. I take no fault in them chasing more tv money. College sports has increasingly become a big business and the race to the top is certainly underway, and for those that want to cash in, it just makes sense to join the Big 10 (or renegotiate Pac-12 monies ). Where I take issue is how USC and UCLA went about it. They owed their long standing conference affiliates and the Pac-12 board a frank discussion about their desires to leave. This should NEVER have been a "surprise". Don't pretend to be some upstanding institution and then pull shady sh*t like this. At least I can respect a program like Texas for how they handled their move to the SEC. Everyone knew they either wanted more of the Big 12 pie or to leave, Iit was no secret. Texas is money and power hungry (which is fine), but they put all their cards on the table. USC and UCLA are money and power hungry and they just threw everyone under the bus. I can't respect that. The Pac-12 is supposed to be a conference of champions, integrity, high academic regard, respect....we are supposed to be better than this underhandedness. I know this isn't volleyball specific but I now view both LA schools as garbage programs not worth even talking about.
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Post by sonofdogman on Jul 1, 2022 9:20:06 GMT -5
(reposted from the USC/UCLA moving to the Big 10 thread) I'm not sure if it has really been said yet, in particular from the Pac-12 fans here on the board, but if the reporting on this is true, this was a complete trash move by the LA schools. I take no fault in them chasing more tv money. College sports has increasingly become a big business and the race to the top is certainly underway, and for those that want to cash in, it just makes sense to join the Big 10 (or renegotiate Pac-12 monies ). Where I take issue is how USC and UCLA went about it. They owed their long standing conference affiliates and the Pac-12 board a frank discussion about their desires to leave. This should NEVER have been a "surprise". Don't pretend to be some upstanding institution and then pull shady sh*t like this. At least I can respect a program like Texas for how they handled their move to the SEC. Everyone knew they either wanted more of the Big 12 pie or to leave, Iit was no secret. Texas is money and power hungry (which is fine), but they put all their cards on the table. USC and UCLA are money and power hungry and they just threw everyone under the bus. I can't respect that. The Pac-12 is supposed to be a conference of champions, integrity, high academic regard, respect....we are supposed to be better than this underhandedness. I know this isn't volleyball specific but I now view both LA schools as garbage programs not worth even talking about. If you look at all the schools moving conferences, the Texas case is an outlier. Most are done with little communication to their current conference, their fellow conference members, or the public. It's quite likely that if given the opportunity, Washington would have done the same thing. Your opinion of the LA schools is valid and I won't disagree that it is deserved, but don't delude yourself that your favorite school would have been above it. That's the nature of the game in today's landscape. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 1, 2022 11:11:06 GMT -5
(reposted from the USC/UCLA moving to the Big 10 thread) I'm not sure if it has really been said yet, in particular from the Pac-12 fans here on the board, but if the reporting on this is true, this was a complete trash move by the LA schools. I take no fault in them chasing more tv money. College sports has increasingly become a big business and the race to the top is certainly underway, and for those that want to cash in, it just makes sense to join the Big 10 (or renegotiate Pac-12 monies ). Where I take issue is how USC and UCLA went about it. They owed their long standing conference affiliates and the Pac-12 board a frank discussion about their desires to leave. This should NEVER have been a "surprise". Don't pretend to be some upstanding institution and then pull shady sh*t like this. At least I can respect a program like Texas for how they handled their move to the SEC. Everyone knew they either wanted more of the Big 12 pie or to leave, Iit was no secret. Texas is money and power hungry (which is fine), but they put all their cards on the table. USC and UCLA are money and power hungry and they just threw everyone under the bus. I can't respect that. The Pac-12 is supposed to be a conference of champions, integrity, high academic regard, respect....we are supposed to be better than this underhandedness. I know this isn't volleyball specific but I now view both LA schools as garbage programs not worth even talking about. If you look at all the schools moving conferences, the Texas case is an outlier. Most are done with little communication to their current conference, their fellow conference members, or the public. It's quite likely that if given the opportunity, Washington would have done the same thing. Your opinion of the LA schools is valid and I won't disagree that it is deserved, but don't delude yourself that your favorite school would have been above it. That's the nature of the game in today's landscape. Right. And if Texas A&M hadn't leaked the Texas and Oklahoma news, they probably would have operated in silence also. In some ways, these college football realignment decisions remind me of Survivor. Longstanding alliances are cast aside for money, and there are a lot of hurt feelings. |
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Post by volleyfan24 on Jul 1, 2022 13:23:17 GMT -5
Just replace the LA schools with SD and SDSU problem solved haha if only so simple.
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Post by surfvolleypolojock77 on Jul 1, 2022 21:11:04 GMT -5
Well SDSU is a part time Pac-12 member in some sports
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Post by JJVb on Jul 8, 2022 2:15:35 GMT -5
Pros and cons of this preseason schedule for COL?
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Post by trojansc on Jul 8, 2022 2:25:53 GMT -5
Pros and cons of this preseason schedule for COL? Here are the teams and their 2021 records: Denver (23-6) Illinois (22-12) Arkansas (20-11) Colorado State (19-11) Colorado State (19-11) Western Michigan (19-12) Green Bay (15-16) UALR (14-15) Florida International (9-13) Iowa (6-24) From a W/L and raw RPI standpoint -- you'll definitely take that schedule. Iowa is the real dud. Western Michigan should be good, I think Colorado State is going to win the MWC (the rest of the MWC should be down). Denver might not put up the same record again but should be a good W/L team again. Overall, I like this schedule for Colorado. Are we thinking Colorado can make a run as an at-large team? I think this schedule very much so gives them a chance. But I don't know how good they are going to be in 2022. |
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Post by JJVb on Jul 8, 2022 16:53:02 GMT -5
Pros and cons of this preseason schedule for COL? Here are the teams and their 2021 records: Denver (23-6) Illinois (22-12) Arkansas (20-11) Colorado State (19-11) Colorado State (19-11) Western Michigan (19-12) Green Bay (15-16) UALR (14-15) Florida International (9-13) Iowa (6-24) From a W/L and raw RPI standpoint -- you'll definitely take that schedule. Iowa is the real dud. Western Michigan should be good, I think Colorado State is going to win the MWC (the rest of the MWC should be down). Denver might not put up the same record again but should be a good W/L team again. Overall, I like this schedule for Colorado. Are we thinking Colorado can make a run as an at-large team? I think this schedule very much so gives them a chance. But I don't know how good they are going to be in 2022. Okay nice. Seems like a good preseason for them. The big loss is their setter to transferring, so we will see how the setter spot plays out. More importantly though, they can struggle to have that go to pin hitter. Definitely don't think they can make a run as an at-large team, but would be happy for them if they get to that spot. |
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Post by brunie on Jul 8, 2022 20:20:39 GMT -5
Colorado roster for this season shows DeLuzio listed as "setter/libero" so maybe they will primarily be using her as the setter at least to start the season. And we know she is pretty good as a setter.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 8, 2022 20:40:37 GMT -5
Colorado roster for this season shows DeLuzio listed as "setter/libero" so maybe they will primarily be using her as the setter at least to start the season. And we know she is pretty good as a setter. she’s been listed as that for every season she’s been with the team. she’ll always be where they need her most, though so I’m not counting her out at any position lol. I’m still shocked she ended up coming back. maybe she did actually wanna set so she was gonna leave to set, but then Ewert left so she stayed🤷♂️ |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 8, 2022 20:45:28 GMT -5
De Luzio will do fine at setting, CU's passing is still a question mark, and they might need to sacrifice some offense on the pins to get ball control players in there - and I'm not sure they have enough offense to begin with to sacrifice anything. Maybe they move Parker into the middle just to get best seven players on the court?
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Post by brunie on Jul 8, 2022 21:44:20 GMT -5
Colorado roster for this season shows DeLuzio listed as "setter/libero" so maybe they will primarily be using her as the setter at least to start the season. And we know she is pretty good as a setter. she’s been listed as that for every season she’s been with the team. she’ll always be where they need her most, though so I’m not counting her out at any position lol. I’m still shocked she ended up coming back. maybe she did actually wanna set so she was gonna leave to set, but then Ewert left so she stayed🤷♂️ From what I have heard she wanted to play beach for her final year but then found out that, since she didn't play beach during the Covid year, she would not get the extra year for beach. So she came back to CU Indoor VB. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 8, 2022 21:48:57 GMT -5
De Luzio will do fine at setting, CU's passing is still a question mark, and they might need to sacrifice some offense on the pins to get ball control players in there - and I'm not sure they have enough offense to begin with to sacrifice anything. Maybe they move Parker into the middle just to get best seven players on the court? I thought Meegan and Alexia were pretty good when they actually could get set lol. Blocking wasn’t just horrendous. I can definitely see a world where both Tabron and Campbell don’t start this season. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 8, 2022 22:29:19 GMT -5
De Luzio will do fine at setting, CU's passing is still a question mark, and they might need to sacrifice some offense on the pins to get ball control players in there - and I'm not sure they have enough offense to begin with to sacrifice anything. Maybe they move Parker into the middle just to get best seven players on the court? I thought Meegan and Alexia were pretty good when they actually could get set lol. Blocking wasn’t just horrendous. I can definitely see a world where both Tabron and Campbell don’t start this season. Well they were low volume for a reason (a big one was the lack of slide), hart could be crafty though. and I always feel like CU’s blocking doesn’t quite match up to their BPS - when they’re not touching, they’re REALLY not impacting. Yeah, I wouldn’t pretend to know who they’re gonna start on the pins., I think Schneg sort of has to be part of their optimal combo, but I could be talked out of it, and they brought hadrych in for a reason. |
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