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Post by HawaiiVB on May 21, 2022 2:01:19 GMT -5
And with all your insight (and all the other loloheads) about what makes a winning team. What can you do about it? Let's see, be toxic with snide and bullying comments. If you ever talked to any of the aunties, you will understand what being a true fan of UH is. It's not the only way, but if you can't make a lei, you could be a fan who purchases season tickets, you could be a fan that joins a team's booster club, you could join Koa Anuenue and donate your time to volunteer when the teams need help. But if you ever talked to one of the aunties, you would understand what a fan is of UH sports. They will always have nice words to say even when you lost, they will encourage you to do your best, even if you had a bad match, and they will thank you for all your hard work. Then they will give you a lei and sometimes a hug, that they made themselves, even to the opponents. They understand that the students are young adults who may be dealing with a lot and being kind and generous will help them get through it. Some of the so-called "fans" on here are like fanemies, they spew toxic negativity and say the most insane theories that any sane person knows will never happen. And instead of providing support, encouragement, gratitude, or even constructive realistic criticism, all you see here is, UH sucks, so let's replace the coach, or why are players leaving? okay, then it must be UH sucks. Hawai'i is what Hawai'i is. I can guarantee you that UH is doing as much as it can to be successful. Anything more is not reality. It's not helpful with toxic fans, it just makes you look really ignorant and foolish. "What can you do about it?" Not much other than donate $$$ to the program and also donate computer equipment to the athletic department as I used to own a computer store in town, and donate my time. I was previously on the Booster Club Board of Directors for 5 years back in the early 2000's. I've also been a fan since I came back home from going college and after working on the mainland in 1987 (Klum Gym days) and have been a lower bowl season ticket holder since the Stan Sheriff Center opened. Since you seem intent on making this a pissing contest about who is a better "fan", what have you done for the program? Big deal. Even if you did all that. The way you and all the other loloheads disrespect the program today shows your true nature. Be like aunty.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 21, 2022 2:14:00 GMT -5
So many different cliques of Hawaiian fans. We have the Lolos, the Mahu’s, the Wala’au’s, and the OG’s. I’m sure you all know which category you fall under.
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Post by madonna on May 21, 2022 3:12:42 GMT -5
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Post by babybacksets on May 21, 2022 3:15:35 GMT -5
I mean at least we’re not arguing about masks
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Post by babybacksets on May 21, 2022 3:25:10 GMT -5
However, Hawaii does need to make a major shift athletically to see any real boost in women’s volleyball chances to succeed or all Hawaii sports in general.
I’m still very much in the camp of at least making the bid to join the PAC. It’s a conference that in home recruits for all sports will be happy to play in and would continue attracting non west coast talent.
There is no redeeming quality about the Big West in anything outside of Mens volleyball. Even if every sport is getting smacked in the early years, I feel like it will still be more beneficial to the program as a whole.
Dreams of Grandeur I know but no big time recruit, coaching addition, or player improvement is going to change how wack this conference is on the grander scale of this sport and not likely to change anytime soon.
Especially like those were saying about competing with schools that can offer major NIL deals, the exposure for athletes is there with OCSports but who tf cares about how a game Vs CSU Bakersfield or UC Davis goes? Respectfully.
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Post by medusa on May 21, 2022 10:20:38 GMT -5
I think Hawaii lost their luster on keeping Hawaii born athletes at home. The last home-grown female athlete that made a big impression in my opinion was Nikki Taylor.
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on May 21, 2022 10:22:49 GMT -5
i dont know if they're going to hawaii but Gurl… on my wildest wishlist it would be Magda and she would bring Pia with her 😝 Wasn't Magda here during the men's season watching some games? If we get her and Pia, we are back in the mix of things lol! Even having her would be a huge boost, she was the 2019 AVCA National Freshman of The Year!
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on May 21, 2022 10:27:20 GMT -5
Be relevant again? Not many teams in Hawaii's position is still relevant. I'm actually surprised Hawaii is still going as strong as its been while having to compete with not only these Power 5 schools but also these ridiculous NIL deals these schools or connections are throwing at athletes this day and age. YES! Be relevant again! This idea I see from some like you that "oh they're P5 schools so they should be better because they have more resources blah blah blah" is BS. We battled P5 (BCS) schools since 1998 when the BCS came into being and we were relevant all the way up until 2017 - that's almost 20 years of competing with and beating P5 schools all the while staying nationally relevant and in the polls. We've done it before and we can do it again. And by the way, the NCAA Division 1 Board of Directors approved an interim NIL policy in 2021 so it's not like that has been a factor in only ONE YEAR. I think it's sad that some fans will just throw up their hands and accept our beloved program sliding into mediocrity. It's pathetic actually..... Thank you! Period.
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on May 21, 2022 10:37:53 GMT -5
Be relevant again? Not many teams in Hawaii's position is still relevant. I'm actually surprised Hawaii is still going as strong as its been while having to compete with not only these Power 5 schools but also these ridiculous NIL deals these schools or connections are throwing at athletes this day and age. YES! Be relevant again! This idea I see from some like you that "oh they're P5 schools so they should be better because they have more resources blah blah blah" is BS. We battled P5 (BCS) schools since 1998 when the BCS came into being and we were relevant all the way up until 2017 - that's almost 20 years of competing with and beating P5 schools all the while staying nationally relevant and in the polls. We've done it before and we can do it again. And by the way, the NCAA Division 1 Board of Directors approved an interim NIL policy in 2021 so it's not like that has been a factor in only ONE YEAR. I think it's sad that some fans will just throw up their hands and accept our beloved program sliding into mediocrity. It's pathetic actually..... Yes! I refuse to, knowing the history that we have, the players that have come through, the tradition, the coaches, the fans, and everything else that comes with it's legacy. When you're one of a only what, 11 or 12 schools to win national title in the sport, you've made your presence known. There should be no reason why we aren't relevant or in the Top 25 each year.
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on May 21, 2022 10:44:05 GMT -5
Actually what is pathetic is that some Hawaii wahine fans have been utterly SPOILED with always winning over the years that you guys have unrealistic expectations. And when those unrealistic expectations aren't met....you guys would instantly want to 'throw the baby out with the bath water' so to speak. AhMow just won another BWC championship and lost in the round of 32 at Washington against Udub this season. Same team and during the same tournament even Shoji with his 42 years had a hard time doing because they got sent there so often. And so what you asking for really? What brings them out of mediocrity? Be ranked again? OK fine? What? Get past the round of 32? OK she did that 3 years back? What else you like? She has taken them to the tournament since she has taken over for Shoji. I swear some of you guys still live like you guys in the 80's early 90's. Why are we spoiled to expect our team to do what it's done in the recent past? and I'm NOT talking about the 80's and 90's!, I'm talking about as recently as the 2010's! As fans that know the history of our program, we should expect (and insist!) that our team stays relevant. Having fans like you that are OK with the program sliding into mediocrity doesn't help the program. It only helps it slide more. It's not unrealistic to expect our team to uphold the traditions and history of our program. Like I said - we have the best fans in the nation - consistently in the top 3 in attendance, and our team plays in one of the best arena's in the country. "And so what you asking for really?" I think I've been pretty clear about what I want but since you obviously haven't been paying attention I will repeat myself: YES, I want our team to be talked about in the national conversation again and also ranked again on a consistent basis. Up until 2017 we only had one year where we missed the rankings and that was in the injury plagued 1992 year. We've been left out of the rankings 3 out of the last 4 years, COVID year excluded. From the looks of things (news coming out of the program) it will only get worse. By any metric, it's pretty clear to me that our program is headed in the wrong direction! With all that being said, it baffles me that people like you are OK with where our program is headed. Can you imagine a fan of any program that has won national championships and had a tradition of being perennially nationally ranked, be it football, baseball or whatever, being OK with their team sliding into mediocrity? So I ask you: knowing the history of our program, why are you OK with it? Do not waste your time with certain ones on here lol, not worth it trust me. It's like a never ending conversation with stupidity. You can tell by the way some people talk here that they've NEVER played volleyball, or on a team, or a successful one at that, to know where you're coming from or at least try to understand it. All we can do is add our expertise on the matter haha, like that yeah lmao!
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Post by hapaguy on May 21, 2022 12:58:09 GMT -5
YES! Be relevant again! This idea I see from some like you that "oh they're P5 schools so they should be better because they have more resources blah blah blah" is BS. We battled P5 (BCS) schools since 1998 when the BCS came into being and we were relevant all the way up until 2017 - that's almost 20 years of competing with and beating P5 schools all the while staying nationally relevant and in the polls. We've done it before and we can do it again. And by the way, the NCAA Division 1 Board of Directors approved an interim NIL policy in 2021 so it's not like that has been a factor in only ONE YEAR. I think it's sad that some fans will just throw up their hands and accept our beloved program sliding into mediocrity. It's pathetic actually..... Yes! I refuse to, knowing the history that we have, the players that have come through, the tradition, the coaches, the fans, and everything else that comes with it's legacy. When you're one of a only what, 11 or 12 schools to win national title in the sport, you've made your presence known. There should be no reason why we aren't relevant or in the Top 25 each year. Thank you! I really don't understand this kind of thinking that we should just accept where our program is headed and shut up about it. I really don't care about the childish name calling that some on here seem to enjoy (lolohead? Hapa Karen? what are they like 10 years old or something?!) but what I do care about is our program. Regarding the program, I've put my time and my money where my mouth is, so I talk the talk as well as walk the walk, unlike some on here that call themselves fans yet don't care if the program slides downhill or not....
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Post by hapaguy on May 21, 2022 13:06:13 GMT -5
"What can you do about it?" Not much other than donate $$$ to the program and also donate computer equipment to the athletic department as I used to own a computer store in town, and donate my time. I was previously on the Booster Club Board of Directors for 5 years back in the early 2000's. I've also been a fan since I came back home from going college and after working on the mainland in 1987 (Klum Gym days) and have been a lower bowl season ticket holder since the Stan Sheriff Center opened. Since you seem intent on making this a pissing contest about who is a better "fan", what have you done for the program? Big deal. Even if you did all that. The way you and all the other loloheads disrespect the program today shows your true nature. Be like aunty. Well I notice you didn't answer my question so I will take that as a "I don't do shaite for the program other than be a keyboard warrior on Volleytalk." Funny how someone that doesn't do shaite for the program can come on here and tell somebody that has, how to be a fan......
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Post by 2left on May 21, 2022 14:31:09 GMT -5
And with all your insight (and all the other loloheads) about what makes a winning team. What can you do about it? Let's see, be toxic with snide and bullying comments. If you ever talked to any of the aunties, you will understand what being a true fan of UH is. It's not the only way, but if you can't make a lei, you could be a fan who purchases season tickets, you could be a fan that joins a team's booster club, you could join Koa Anuenue and donate your time to volunteer when the teams need help. But if you ever talked to one of the aunties, you would understand what a fan is of UH sports. They will always have nice words to say even when you lost, they will encourage you to do your best, even if you had a bad match, and they will thank you for all your hard work. Then they will give you a lei and sometimes a hug, that they made themselves, even to the opponents. They understand that the students are young adults who may be dealing with a lot and being kind and generous will help them get through it. Some of the so-called "fans" on here are like fanemies, they spew toxic negativity and say the most insane theories that any sane person knows will never happen. And instead of providing support, encouragement, gratitude, or even constructive realistic criticism, all you see here is, UH sucks, so let's replace the coach, or why are players leaving? okay, then it must be UH sucks. Hawai'i is what Hawai'i is. I can guarantee you that UH is doing as much as it can to be successful. Anything more is not reality. It's not helpful with toxic fans, it just makes you look really ignorant and foolish. "What can you do about it?" Not much other than donate $$$ to the program and also donate computer equipment to the athletic department as I used to own a computer store in town, and donate my time. I was previously on the Booster Club Board of Directors for 5 years back in the early 2000's. I've also been a fan since I came back home from going college and after working on the mainland in 1987 (Klum Gym days) and have been a lower bowl season ticket holder since the Stan Sheriff Center opened. Since you seem intent on making this a pissing contest about who is a better "fan", what have you done for the program? 100% that's what it's all about - donations. I understand that things are tough in Hawaii and many fans live under the poverty line. But for those that can afford it they should donate, donate, donate. Get money to hire the best coaches and get them the funds to recruit, keep the facilities at a high level and hire a decent marketing firm. If you can't give money, donate your time. If fans gave money or time to equal what the players are giving physically and with their time, the program could be in great shape. That's the only way for a non-P5 school to stay relevant.
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Post by hwnstunner on May 21, 2022 14:39:30 GMT -5
Everyone needs to simmer down. Fast from volleytalk for a day and cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel. A
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Post by HawaiiVB on May 21, 2022 14:46:30 GMT -5
Big deal. Even if you did all that. The way you and all the other loloheads disrespect the program today shows your true nature. Be like aunty. Well I notice you didn't answer my question so I will take that as a "I don't do shaite for the program other than be a keyboard warrior on Volleytalk." Funny how someone that doesn't do shaite for the program can come on here and tell somebody that has, how to be a fan...... No one cares what you did. You don’t get a checklist of stuff you did that entitles you and your lolohead friends to decide what needs to be done to “fix” Na Wahine. We also have been past boosters for a team, so what. We know a few big time donors both living and not who have donated tons of money and resources to further the mission of UH sports and most don’t want anyone to know what they did, others did so in memorial of a loved one, but NONE of them has ever told UH what needs to be done in order to bring UH back into the past. And for the others questioning some of our experiences, most of us have been playing volleyball way before some of you have been born. We just want to support UH with positivity instead of being passive aggressive. I have been on volleytalk even before they moved to Proboards and a Hawai’i thread has never been this toxic to it’s own program. Be like the aunties.
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