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Post by bbg95 on Jan 7, 2022 19:23:26 GMT -5
LOL if Penn State woke up tomorrow with Pitt's revenue numbers someone would be going to prison. They could make Dan Fisher the highest paid coach in NCAA volleyball and not bat an eye. We have D-I hockey and a really good hockey facility because a rich alum bankrolled it. If not for that, we would still just have a club team in ratty-a$$ Ice Pavilion. I did not know this. Apparently, said rich alum is the owner of the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bills and donated over $100 million to the project.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 7, 2022 19:38:10 GMT -5
I had absolutely no horse in this race and have no connection to Fisher but am really pleased to see that he landed a long contract extension as a result of this process. Very cool to see someone exercise leverage when they've got it and get rewarded for their good work. This will become more common as volleyball continues to grow. Look at how many football and basketball coaches used USC, LSU, UCLA, etc. to get raises.
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Post by bkedane on Jan 7, 2022 19:42:39 GMT -5
I had absolutely no horse in this race and have no connection to Fisher but am really pleased to see that he landed a long contract extension as a result of this process. Very cool to see someone exercise leverage when they've got it and get rewarded for their good work. Long? It's a one year extension.
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Post by exit237a on Jan 7, 2022 20:59:19 GMT -5
I had absolutely no horse in this race and have no connection to Fisher but am really pleased to see that he landed a long contract extension as a result of this process. Very cool to see someone exercise leverage when they've got it and get rewarded for their good work. Long? It's a one year extension. Yeah man, we’re talking 365 more days. Looooooong time. No, one additional year is not long- I had mistakenly thought his current deal was up earlier than ‘26.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 21:29:10 GMT -5
I had absolutely no horse in this race and have no connection to Fisher but am really pleased to see that he landed a long contract extension as a result of this process. Very cool to see someone exercise leverage when they've got it and get rewarded for their good work. Long? It's a one year extension. But it may include a significant salary bump -- that would be easy to change in a contract, but they may well have intentionally left that out of the press release.
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Post by Wiswell on Jan 8, 2022 13:50:11 GMT -5
How's everyone feeling now that 24 hours has passed?
I thing I thought of, which is a mixed blessing, is that miss of Fisher is yet another example of the parity forming in the D1 volleyball sphere. Yes, sure, it's about money. But I have to think the coaches that aren't in play are that way because they think they can be champions right where they are. Not to mention that some of them already are champions, of course.
Ten years ago, there were probably six coaching jobs that were the Pinnacle: Texas PSU Stanford Nebraska Wisconsin Minnesota Florida
Now you have a generation of coaches which include Fisher and DBK, even JFO, who think they can be champions right where they are.
Maybe a head coach at a mid major, or even Miss. St. is the way to go.
Maybe Katie S. is going to be the next great coach. Who knows?
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Post by dodger on Jan 8, 2022 14:35:04 GMT -5
How's everyone feeling now that 24 hours has passed? I thing I thought of, which is a mixed blessing, is that miss of Fisher is yet another example of the parity forming in the D1 volleyball sphere. Yes, sure, it's about money. But I have to think the coaches that aren't in play are that way because they think they can be champions right where they are. Not to mention that some of them already are champions, of course. Ten years ago, there were probably six coaching jobs that were the Pinnacle: Texas PSU Stanford Nebraska Wisconsin Minnesota Florida Now you have a generation of coaches which include Fisher and DBK, even JFO, who think they can be champions right where they are. Maybe a head coach at a mid major, or even Miss. St. is the way to go. Maybe Katie S. is going to be the next great coach. Who knows? Your list is under rated; way more pinnacle (what ever that means) jobs : unless you mean salary??
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Post by jagdpanther on Jan 8, 2022 20:09:48 GMT -5
How's everyone feeling now that 24 hours has passed? I thing I thought of, which is a mixed blessing, is that miss of Fisher is yet another example of the parity forming in the D1 volleyball sphere. Yes, sure, it's about money. But I have to think the coaches that aren't in play are that way because they think they can be champions right where they are. Not to mention that some of them already are champions, of course. Ten years ago, there were probably six coaching jobs that were the Pinnacle: Texas PSU Stanford Nebraska Wisconsin Minnesota Florida Now you have a generation of coaches which include Fisher and DBK, even JFO, who think they can be champions right where they are. Maybe a head coach at a mid major, or even Miss. St. is the way to go. Maybe Katie S. is going to be the next great coach. Who knows? Still thinking we're screwed.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 9, 2022 16:45:07 GMT -5
A source telling you something that was true at the time, but then the situation changed, did not "lie" unless the source is clairvoyant. Agreed. We've lost the ability to separate fact from opinion. If the PSU deal is not signed, saying "It's a done deal" is not true. In the article above, the news agency asked: "Is there an agreement to sell the company?" The answer: "No" was true. They were in negotiations and under a legal agreement to not discuss negotiations. The news agency didn't ask the right questions. To be fair, to anyone who was close to the situation, including fisher himself, all thought it was a done deal. Things change, and sure maybe should of waited till all the Is were dotted and Ts were crossed, but that’s besides the point. No one in this thread posted false information
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 9, 2022 16:49:38 GMT -5
Agreed. We've lost the ability to separate fact from opinion. If the PSU deal is not signed, saying "It's a done deal" is not true. In the article above, the news agency asked: "Is there an agreement to sell the company?" The answer: "No" was true. They were in negotiations and under a legal agreement to not discuss negotiations. The news agency didn't ask the right questions. To be fair, to anyone who was close to the situation, including fisher himself, all thought it was a done deal. Things change, and sure maybe should of waited till all the Is were dotted and Ts were crossed, but that’s besides the point. No one in this thread posted false information What I take issue with is the use of the word “lying or liar or lies” the poster didn’t knowingly post information he knew to be false and I’m sure neither did his source. He was wrong, that’s it.
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Post by justahick on Jan 9, 2022 17:27:46 GMT -5
To be fair, to anyone who was close to the situation, including fisher himself, all thought it was a done deal. Things change, and sure maybe should of waited till all the Is were dotted and Ts were crossed, but that’s besides the point. No one in this thread posted false information What I take issue with is the use of the word “lying or liar or lies” the poster didn’t knowingly post information he knew to be false and I’m sure neither did his source. He was wrong, that’s it. If someone posted that they "know" something or imply they know something (eg "the deal is done" implys (I know "the deal is done"), when in fact they didn't know then they lied. If they said, I've been told that that a deal was signed, then they were lied to. People can Post what they know, post what they suspect, what they've been told, or what they are guessing - they should be clear about the degree of belief they have.
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Post by jagdpanther on Jan 9, 2022 21:10:16 GMT -5
It's comical the level of outrage people have when the information from an unofficial source appears to be wrong. This isn't Watergate, people. The reason why Pitt put out that presser was because they knew how close this was to be reality and this was the way of ending that discussion. We were getting our information in real time all along. You'd be mad if nobody gave hints either. Sheesh. Eh... that Pitt put that out so fast makes me think Fisher was never coming here in the first place. That doesn't get thrown together unless Fisher is working Pitt well before then.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 9, 2022 21:13:50 GMT -5
It's comical the level of outrage people have when the information from an unofficial source appears to be wrong. This isn't Watergate, people. The reason why Pitt put out that presser was because they knew how close this was to be reality and this was the way of ending that discussion. We were getting our information in real time all along. You'd be mad if nobody gave hints either. Sheesh. Eh... that Pitt put that out so fast makes me think Fisher was never coming here in the first place. That doesn't get thrown together unless Fisher is working Pitt well before then. That’s not true, it happens like that all of the time in big time sports. It most definitely can be put together that quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 21:14:42 GMT -5
It's comical the level of outrage people have when the information from an unofficial source appears to be wrong. This isn't Watergate, people. The reason why Pitt put out that presser was because they knew how close this was to be reality and this was the way of ending that discussion. We were getting our information in real time all along. You'd be mad if nobody gave hints either. Sheesh. Eh... that Pitt put that out so fast makes me think Fisher was never coming here in the first place. That doesn't get thrown together unless Fisher is working Pitt well before then. this is completely wrong lol. It was a one year extension
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 9, 2022 21:39:45 GMT -5
Eh... that Pitt put that out so fast makes me think Fisher was never coming here in the first place. That doesn't get thrown together unless Fisher is working Pitt well before then. That’s not true, it happens like that all of the time in big time sports. It most definitely can be put together that quickly. Yeah, look how quickly Oklahoma hired Brent Venables or Notre Dame promoted Marcus Freeman after their coaches got poached.
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