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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 7, 2022 15:07:30 GMT -5
LOL if Penn State woke up tomorrow with Pitt's revenue numbers someone would be going to prison. They could make Dan Fisher the highest paid coach in NCAA volleyball and not bat an eye. Pitt makes that much money? No. Penn State does.
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Post by jagdpanther on Jan 7, 2022 15:12:09 GMT -5
LOL if Penn State woke up tomorrow with Pitt's revenue numbers someone would be going to prison. They could make Dan Fisher the highest paid coach in NCAA volleyball and not bat an eye. Could we? I mean, technically, yeah, we could. But we won't. Nor should we. Penn State does blow Pitt out of the water in terms of athletics revenue, but as I've described several times, that revenue is being used nearly entirely for football right now because Penn State is so wildly far behind in the college sports arms race. No non-rev sport is getting investment right now unless there is a private donor willing to bankroll things. We have D-I hockey and a really good hockey facility because a rich alum bankrolled it. If not for that, we would still just have a club team in ratty-a$$ Ice Pavilion.
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Post by volleyeyes on Jan 7, 2022 15:19:31 GMT -5
What madden has been saying is the same thing I have been hearing. Fish was #1 on psu list and went through multiple interviews with psu. I was told an Offer was made, and from what I heard fish said no because of personal reasons, I don’t think it was a play to get more money. Last couple hours in the psu war room making this hire have to be insane. Quite a few thought it was going to be fish including my self, we were wrong. It was very very close though. I don’t think he said no at first. Was told it was in negotiation and he was showing very big interest, but things came up last minute. No fault on PSU for this from what I was told. Psu did their best to get fisher, which would of been a great hire. Are you saying fisher accepted at first then something came up and came back and said no? Rollercoaster regardless
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 7, 2022 15:20:15 GMT -5
I don’t think he said no at first. Was told it was in negotiation and he was showing very big interest, but things came up last minute. No fault on PSU for this from what I was told. Psu did their best to get fisher, which would of been a great hire. Are you saying fisher accepted at first then something came up and came back and said no? Rollercoaster regardless I wouldn’t say “accepted” per say. Nothing was signed. But the consensus was that he would accept it. Contracts were being negotiated etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 15:21:30 GMT -5
Psu did their best to get fisher, which would of been a great hire. Are you saying fisher accepted at first then something came up and came back and said no? Rollercoaster regardless I wouldn’t say “accepted” per say. Nothing was signed. But the consensus was that he would accept it. Contracts were being negotiated etc. I had heard he accepted it but regardless yea…. He pulled out LAST minute
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 7, 2022 15:22:22 GMT -5
I’ve heard pretty much the same thing, they were working through details and Fisher pulled out. I believe the big factor was his families desire to stay in Pgh, not money.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 7, 2022 15:22:40 GMT -5
LOL if Penn State woke up tomorrow with Pitt's revenue numbers someone would be going to prison. They could make Dan Fisher the highest paid coach in NCAA volleyball and not bat an eye. Could we? I mean, technically, yeah, we could. But we won't. Nor should we. Penn State does blow Pitt out of the water in terms of athletics revenue, but as I've described several times, that revenue is being used nearly entirely for football right now because Penn State is so wildly far behind in the college sports arms race. No non-rev sport is getting investment right now unless there is a private donor willing to bankroll things. We have D-I hockey and a really good hockey facility because a rich alum bankrolled it. If not for that, we would still just have a club team in ratty-a$$ Ice Pavilion. The money is absolutely there. Not spending what's necessary to keep one of your elite programs elite is certainly a choice.
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Post by odinaka on Jan 7, 2022 15:37:15 GMT -5
Alright folks, Fisher watch is over. I'm sliding over to the transfer portal tea thread to continue spreading baseless rumors and gossip.
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Post by jagdpanther on Jan 7, 2022 15:38:43 GMT -5
I’ve heard pretty much the same thing, they were working through details and Fisher pulled out. I believe the big factor was his families desire to stay in Pgh, not money. Another big problem for Penn State in general. State College is not for everyone. This is one we can't change no matter what. Some people just don't want to go to the middle of nowhere. State College is a phenomenal town. If I had the money I'd gladly move there (it's actually insanely expensive given it's location) since remote work is so popular now. But I fully accept a lot of people just don't want to go there or stay there. It's a problem for recruiting and a problem for hiring. Oddly, if you can actually get someone to visit Penn State in the first place you have a higher chance of making it work because you do fall in love with State College quite easily. But you gotta get them there in the first place, which can be a big challenge.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 7, 2022 15:43:46 GMT -5
I’ve heard pretty much the same thing, they were working through details and Fisher pulled out. I believe the big factor was his families desire to stay in Pgh, not money. Another big problem for Penn State in general. State College is not for everyone. This is one we can't change no matter what. Some people just don't want to go to the middle of nowhere. State College is a phenomenal town. If I had the money I'd gladly move there (it's actually insanely expensive given it's location) since remote work is so popular now. But I fully accept a lot of people just don't want to go there or stay there. It's a problem for recruiting and a problem for hiring. Oddly, if you can actually get someone to visit Penn State in the first place you have a higher chance of making it work because you do fall in love with State College quite easily. But you gotta get them there in the first place, which can be a big challenge. This is what I thought of when people were talking about Collier. It's one thing to get Brazilians to go to Atlanta or Miami or LA, but State College, PA? And would her assistant Pinheiro (the big draw for those players) wanna pack up and move to a small town? Unlikely.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Jan 7, 2022 15:44:38 GMT -5
Alright folks, Fisher watch is over. I'm sliding over to the transfer portal tea thread to continue spreading baseless rumors and gossip. LMFAO...at least you are honest. PS: I think you could appreciate my Q. You ever notice when VT 'experts' say "I've heard" or "someone told me", it's 50+% wrong?
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Post by akbar on Jan 7, 2022 16:01:21 GMT -5
I mean I wouldn’t have posted it if I didn’t think it was happening for sure. I just wanted to tel the free people who didn’t understand the hints. Like I said the announcement was literally going to be in a few hours. I’m also not the only one saying that was incredibly last minute that he pulled out. I was also the first to say he did change his mind so obviously I’m not just making it up and had a legit and credible source Then name the names of who lied to you. Um... it's quite possible info was coming from the Fisher Cat Camp too. Regardless, congrats to Dan for finding what makes him happy and maybe got some extra $$ too. Great coach and Pitt is fortunate to have him. We move on
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Post by hail2pitt on Jan 7, 2022 16:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by odinaka on Jan 7, 2022 16:05:14 GMT -5
Alright folks, Fisher watch is over. I'm sliding over to the transfer portal tea thread to continue spreading baseless rumors and gossip. LMFAO...at least you are honest. PS: I think you could appreciate my Q. You ever notice when VT 'experts' say "I've heard" or "someone told me", it's 50+% wrong?Yes, but it's also true that most times folks are only privy to one side of a situation. Money and fame are very strong motivators but we tend to underestimate the power of relationships.
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Post by vbnerd on Jan 7, 2022 16:05:22 GMT -5
Please explain....to me it makes sense for both sides Fisher has built something really good at Pitt, as much as it pains me to say it. Pitt's Athletic Department is giving him everything he needs to succeed. Penn State's Athletic Department is a disaster zone right now outside of the two rev sports. There is virtually no meaningful investment in any non-rev sports. The team facilities are terribly outdated (like those the v-ball teams use) or downright ramshackle (like the tennis and swimming facilities). And for the love of God I do not mean the competition facilities (though some of those are bad, too). People always equate facilities with what they see for competition; that's not what I mean. Fisher has a much easier road right now in the ACC than he does in the Big Ten and he's shown he can get to Final 4; he's going to continue to be able to do that at Pitt. If he *really* wants to get the benefit of coaching in the Big Ten and the extra firepower than brings for recruiting, he can do that at another school that actually is supporting its non-rev sports. I've stated repeatedly why Penn Stat's support of non-rev sports is so bad (particularly right now), but whatever the reasons, it is terrible support and not at all enticing for coaches to come into. Fisher would be crazy to come here right now. FWIW, when I started the "Is Penn St REALLY a top 10 job without Russ?" bandwagon, I still thought it was decent job, just not where a lot of posters assumed it should be without looking at the factors that make a top program. The more I read posts like this, I realize that I knew, but I really didn't know, ya know? Salima would have been a coup. Fisher would have been an accomplishment. And I applaud Penn State for aiming high but instead of hitting their head on every rung down the latter, at what point do they "settle" for someone who has to say yes. They have several open scholarships, right? The longer the job is open, the harder this rebuild becomes.
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