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Post by volleyguy on Dec 8, 2022 0:51:20 GMT -5
Kim Hill never intended to stay. Cursty’s leaving is more concerning. It was obvious over the course of the season that she either wasn’t on-board or wasn’t integrated into the program. Tyler can’t do it alone. He simply doesn’t have the experience or ability or time. But like a lot of young coaches, he’s going to make the mistake of hiring his friend(s) in place of those who can improve his knowledge and development. Kim Hill is still with the team. I think if she was leaving, she would let the team know. Not surprising CJ stepped down. The job is very time consuming and she does have a two year old. She’s staying until her replacement is hired. |
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Post by timthebear on Dec 8, 2022 1:19:33 GMT -5
Kim Hill never intended to stay. Cursty’s leaving is more concerning. It was obvious over the course of the season that she either wasn’t on-board or wasn’t integrated into the program. Tyler can’t do it alone. He simply doesn’t have the experience or ability or time. But like a lot of young coaches, he’s going to make the mistake of hiring his friend(s) in place of those who can improve his knowledge and development. Kim Hill is still with the team. I think if she was leaving, she would let the team know. Not surprising CJ stepped down. The job is very time consuming and she does have a two year old. i also found kim's attitude a bit interesting, when watching all those matches, you can see kim almost didn't interact with the team, at the begining i just think that it is because she is not get used with the coaching position, but as the season goes on, i found that both her and CJ, both are passionate players when they are still playing, didn't do much during the match. also CJ did post more frequently when she was with UNLV, but didn't post much this year. Again if Kim never intended to stay, then why she accept the role as assistant coach at June/July? i remember in a podcast or whatever she mentioned that she want to be in the same role as sue enquist in team USA, maybe this year she figure out that being a coach is so much different from being sue enquist in team USA. but of course, i don't know any of the players from the team, i am not sure if Kim or CJ is close to them, but from what i see, Kim didn't follow a single player from the team on IG |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Dec 8, 2022 1:35:58 GMT -5
When a storied program such as The Beach is essentially replacing Icon Coach Brian (not dissing Coach Joy or Coach Sabrina), there has to be some period of adjustment in order for Coach Tyler to find his voice. He will find his way.
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Post by brooselee on Dec 8, 2022 3:39:07 GMT -5
Kim Hill is still with the team. I think if she was leaving, she would let the team know. Not surprising CJ stepped down. The job is very time consuming and she does have a two year old. i also found kim's attitude a bit interesting, when watching all those matches, you can see kim almost didn't interact with the team, at the begining i just think that it is because she is not get used with the coaching position, but as the season goes on, i found that both her and CJ, both are passionate players when they are still playing, didn't do much during the match. also CJ did post more frequently when she was with UNLV, but didn't post much this year. Again if Kim never intended to stay, then why she accept the role as assistant coach at June/July? i remember in a podcast or whatever she mentioned that she want to be in the same role as sue enquist in team USA, maybe this year she figure out that being a coach is so much different from being sue enquist in team USA. but of course, i don't know any of the players from the team, i am not sure if Kim or CJ is close to them, but from what i see, Kim didn't follow a single player from the team on IG I wondered if Kim and CJ were unsure what their roles on the team were. Could it be that maybe Tyler micromanaged too much and didn’t allow for the other coaches to be themselves? I don’t know, just a thought. Sometimes 1st time HC tried to do too much and they kind of overstep and the assistant don’t feel like they are able to do their job. Your point sounds like their personality changed(especially Curtsy) and maybe they were unhappy with the situation but didn’t want it to bleed onto the players so they just kept quiet. |
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Post by footfault on Dec 8, 2022 9:32:11 GMT -5
So that is 3 Assistant Coaches who have left the program in 1 year? Does anyone know why he didn't keep Sabrina? Seemed like she did good things the last half of 2021.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Dec 8, 2022 10:25:01 GMT -5
Kim Hill is still with the team. I think if she was leaving, she would let the team know. Not surprising CJ stepped down. The job is very time consuming and she does have a two year old. i also found kim's attitude a bit interesting, when watching all those matches, you can see kim almost didn't interact with the team, at the begining i just think that it is because she is not get used with the coaching position, but as the season goes on, i found that both her and CJ, both are passionate players when they are still playing, didn't do much during the match. also CJ did post more frequently when she was with UNLV, but didn't post much this year. Again if Kim never intended to stay, then why she accept the role as assistant coach at June/July? i remember in a podcast or whatever she mentioned that she want to be in the same role as sue enquist in team USA, maybe this year she figure out that being a coach is so much different from being sue enquist in team USA. but of course, i don't know any of the players from the team, i am not sure if Kim or CJ is close to them, but from what i see, Kim didn't follow a single player from the team on IG seriously, equating following people on IG is that important to actual relationships, really?. IG can be different things to different people and what they CHOOSE. I get so many out there try to 'conclude' waaaay too much because of IG posts, part of the societal 'addiction' to trivial pursuits as you said you are not sure = you don't know, so there it is  I don't follow my wife on IG, and am pretty close to her |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Dec 8, 2022 10:35:36 GMT -5
So that is 3 Assistant Coaches who have left the program in 1 year? Does anyone know why he didn't keep Sabrina? Seemed like she did good things the last half of 2021. Tyler knows, which is what is important. Am sure he had ideas and professional relationships and recommendations that drove his thought process in his hires at the time. Was nothing negative, just the direction he wanted to take. First head coaching job, and sometimes the training/teaching capability and dynamic of working with an assistant is a process. Definitely some learning curve Tyler's first year. If he is not getting what the program needs from an assistant, then he has to go with the direction he needs. For Hill, it started as a volunteer, so that was an experiment for her career. Not all ex-players transition to teaching/coaching smoothly or at all. IF anything, it demonstrates Tyler knows what he desires for the program, and willing to make the decisions to support it. HOpefully the assistants find a better fit for themselves and careers and benefitted. The program stood solid steps in improvements this year. I don't see this as taking any step back, just moving forward even more. |
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Post by soljah808 on Dec 8, 2022 11:13:31 GMT -5
I also thought Kim Hill and CJ as a little distant from the team while on the sidelines and even during the huddle. Almost a little stand offish and awkward. Jordan Molina was way more interactive with the team than they were. But best of luck to them both!
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 8, 2022 11:24:19 GMT -5
So that is 3 Assistant Coaches who have left the program in 1 year? Does anyone know why he didn't keep Sabrina? Seemed like she did good things the last half of 2021. Tyler knows, which is what is important. Am sure he had ideas and professional relationships and recommendations that drove his thought process in his hires at the time. Was nothing negative, just the direction he wanted to take. First head coaching job, and sometimes the training/teaching capability and dynamic of working with an assistant is a process. Definitely some learning curve Tyler's first year. If he is not getting what the program needs from an assistant, then he has to go with the direction he needs. For Hill, it started as a volunteer, so that was an experiment for her career. Not all ex-players transition to teaching/coaching smoothly or at all. IF anything, it demonstrates Tyler knows what he desires for the program, and willing to make the decisions to support it. HOpefully the assistants find a better fit for themselves and careers and benefitted. The program stood solid steps in improvements this year. I don't see this as taking any step back, just moving forward even more. Sabrina's departure is different from these other two. She is very good friends with Joy, served as interim and did really well in the final matches, and likely thought she would be given consideration for the head coach job until she realized it was already a done deal. She's was also a setter, same as Tyler, so their strengths over-lapped. If anything, her departure can be laid at the feet of the incompetent former AD. Whether the departure of Tyler's two coaching appointments is a step back or forward depends on who he hires, and based on who he is currently considering, it's not particularly a strengthening of the staff. Think circa 2001. |
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Post by footfault on Dec 8, 2022 11:26:41 GMT -5
So that is 3 Assistant Coaches who have left the program in 1 year? Does anyone know why he didn't keep Sabrina? Seemed like she did good things the last half of 2021. Tyler knows, which is what is important. Am sure he had ideas and professional relationships and recommendations that drove his thought process in his hires at the time. Was nothing negative, just the direction he wanted to take. First head coaching job, and sometimes the training/teaching capability and dynamic of working with an assistant is a process. Definitely some learning curve Tyler's first year. If he is not getting what the program needs from an assistant, then he has to go with the direction he needs. For Hill, it started as a volunteer, so that was an experiment for her career. Not all ex-players transition to teaching/coaching smoothly or at all. IF anything, it demonstrates Tyler knows what he desires for the program, and willing to make the decisions to support it. HOpefully the assistants find a better fit for themselves and careers and benefitted. The program stood solid steps in improvements this year. I don't see this as taking any step back, just moving forward even more. Are you saying he fired both CJ and Kim? Reading the posts above it made it sound like they left the program for their own reasons. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Dec 8, 2022 11:40:11 GMT -5
Tyler knows, which is what is important. Am sure he had ideas and professional relationships and recommendations that drove his thought process in his hires at the time. Was nothing negative, just the direction he wanted to take. First head coaching job, and sometimes the training/teaching capability and dynamic of working with an assistant is a process. Definitely some learning curve Tyler's first year. If he is not getting what the program needs from an assistant, then he has to go with the direction he needs. For Hill, it started as a volunteer, so that was an experiment for her career. Not all ex-players transition to teaching/coaching smoothly or at all. IF anything, it demonstrates Tyler knows what he desires for the program, and willing to make the decisions to support it. HOpefully the assistants find a better fit for themselves and careers and benefitted. The program stood solid steps in improvements this year. I don't see this as taking any step back, just moving forward even more. Are you saying he fired both CJ and Kim? Reading the posts above it made it sound like they left the program for their own reasons. I do not know where you got from reading posts that they left for their own reasons or that Tyler did not renew their positions. No one on here knows for a fact, or may ever know. there could be valid reasons for a combination of both. It doesn't have to be some negative connotation. I would expect that after the completion of the seasons, Tyler had discussions with coaches and players which one would expect touched on where the program could grow or improve, which would factor in. I think it's safe to say both Tyler and Kim were in positions this last year they had never experienced and learned a lot in the process. Tyler simply had not been in a position of delegating duties, etc. That's a big leap for anyone who transitions to a managerial position. |
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Post by Word on Dec 8, 2022 12:01:35 GMT -5
Tyler knows, which is what is important. Am sure he had ideas and professional relationships and recommendations that drove his thought process in his hires at the time. Was nothing negative, just the direction he wanted to take. First head coaching job, and sometimes the training/teaching capability and dynamic of working with an assistant is a process. Definitely some learning curve Tyler's first year. If he is not getting what the program needs from an assistant, then he has to go with the direction he needs. For Hill, it started as a volunteer, so that was an experiment for her career. Not all ex-players transition to teaching/coaching smoothly or at all. IF anything, it demonstrates Tyler knows what he desires for the program, and willing to make the decisions to support it. HOpefully the assistants find a better fit for themselves and careers and benefitted. The program stood solid steps in improvements this year. I don't see this as taking any step back, just moving forward even more. Sabrina's departure is different from these other two. She is very good friends with Joy, served as interim and did really well in the final matches, and likely thought she would be given consideration for the head coach job until she realized it was already a done deal. She's was also a setter, same as Tyler, so their strengths over-lapped. If anything, her departure can be laid at the feet of the incompetent former AD. Whether the departure of Tyler's two coaching appointments is a step back or forward depends on who he hires, and based on who he is currently considering, it's not particularly a strengthening of the staff. Think circa 2001. Perhaps Tyler should have tried to retain Sabrina as an assistant immediately when he was hired. She's an alum with a great track record and friends with all the past players from their glory days. Bad call by Tyler not to try and keep her IMO. Hopefully he finds better fits moving forward. |
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Post by footfault on Dec 8, 2022 12:06:17 GMT -5
Kim Hill never intended to stay. Cursty’s leaving is more concerning. It was obvious over the course of the season that she either wasn’t on-board or wasn’t integrated into the program. Tyler can’t do it alone. He simply doesn’t have the experience or ability or time. But like a lot of young coaches, he’s going to make the mistake of hiring his friend(s) in place of those who can improve his knowledge and development. Kim Hill is still with the team. I think if she was leaving, she would let the team know. Not surprising CJ stepped down. The job is very time consuming and she does have a two year old. This is what I read to think that she left on her own. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 8, 2022 12:07:20 GMT -5
Are you saying he fired both CJ and Kim? Reading the posts above it made it sound like they left the program for their own reasons. I do not know where you got from reading posts that they left for their own reasons or that Tyler did not renew their positions. No one on here knows for a fact, or may ever know. there could be valid reasons for a combination of both. It doesn't have to be some negative connotation. I would expect that after the completion of the seasons, Tyler had discussions with coaches and players which one would expect touched on where the program could grow or improve, which would factor in. I think it's safe to say both Tyler and Kim were in positions this last year they had never experienced and learned a lot in the process. Tyler simply had not been in a position of delegating duties, etc. That's a big leap for anyone who transitions to a managerial position. You previously consistently downplayed the fact that Tyler lacked head coach experience. Now it's your primary argument. Don't be a fraud. lol |
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Post by hwnstunner on Dec 8, 2022 12:22:02 GMT -5
Are all the LBSU players (minus Williams) with eligibility coming back? Hope so - LBSU Has potential to be great.
For the LBSU fans:
1) What are your overall thoughts on the players returning?
2) What are your thoughts on the recruits LBSU has signed?
3) What are the needs from the transfer portal (if any)?
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